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Virginia mulls tuition for undocumented immigrants
Rappahannock News ^ | Jan. 19, 2013 | Jessica Dahlberg

Posted on 01/20/2013 6:58:27 AM PST by moonshinner_09

RICHMOND – It is the American motto – the premise the country takes pride in: If you work hard, you can accomplish anything, be anything. But for some who consider themselves Americans, the rule does not apply.

Undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children face an obstacle when trying to accomplish their educational goals. When they graduate from high school, they must pay out-of-state tuition at Virginia’s public colleges and universities — a difficult feat since they usually don’t qualify for financial aid programs either.

“It becomes part of the expectation for young immigrants that they won’t be able to go to college,” said Robert G. Templin Jr., president of Northern Virginia Community College.

Six bills – two in the Senate and four in the House – seek to change Virginia law so that undocumented immigrants meeting certain criteria would be able to pay in-state college tuition.

“If these bills are passed, it would be a positive impact on the Hispanic community,” said Edgar Aranda-Yanoc, chairman of the Virginia Coalition of Latino Organizations. “It would allow immigrants who came to this country to pursue a higher education.”

The state legislation parallels a federal proposal called the DREAM Act, an acronym for Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors.

(Excerpt) Read more at rappnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; dreamact; immigration; va
Immigrants can qualify if they entered the U.S. before age 16, are now under 30 and have lived in the country for at least five years. They must have a high school diploma or GED (or be in the process of getting one), or have been honorably discharged by the U.S. military. They must also have a clean criminal record and not be deemed a threat to public safety or national security.(At first I read a million times must be under 31..Here they changed it to must be under 30..Anybody can go sign up for GED class, gov will not be checking to see how long illegals have been erolled in GED classes.Just be enrolled for a day or two..... How many times have any of you seen this, time after time after time....Allowing such students to pay in-state college tuition in Virginia would have little if any financial impact on the commonwealth, according to an analysis of the legislation by the state Department of Planning and Budgeting....... And here...“It doesn’t make moral and … economic sense for us to be investing in these children’s education and having these incredible students not be able to continue their education,” he said.............This letter to editor sums it up very well....One stated, “I pledge allegiance to the flag with other students, so I consider myself American...and Another ... “I went to kindergarten here; I graduated from high school; and I feel like I was born here”.... The above statements show that the children of illegal immigrants just don’t get it. They fail to see that their parents have broken border laws, and are here illegally, trying to cheat their way to the front of the citizenship line. No one earns the right to citizenship by living here for “X” amount of years and not getting caught... The writer summed it very well.. Now the illegals are commanding and demanding, so far law makers are giving in to their demands. They get the dream act, they get drivers licenses, they get work permits, they social security cards.DHS never asked any dreamers have you ever used document fraud to gain employment, for to answer truthfully ,90% would be rejected. I do not understand why these dreamers think we owe them something and why we are suppose to provide free college educations to them all.Illegals pick the most expensive college degrees there is, dr's lawyers, etc,etc... Given their parents earn such low wages, they cannot afford to pay in state tuition , at the same time support the family, buy car insurance, pay all their bills, since earning of wages are so low... Mexico offers free college educations to their people, they can really pursue a higher education in their own country free of charge.

http://www.pe.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor-headlines/20130117-letter-stop-giveaways-to-illegal-immigrants.ece

1 posted on 01/20/2013 6:58:33 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

Illegals are government growth hormone.


2 posted on 01/20/2013 7:02:24 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: moonshinner_09

if a state that takes federal funds for ANYTHING, provides funds for illegals to attend its schools...

then that state is forcing ALL OTHER STATES to pay for the education for illegals as well, as we cannot opt-out of paying into the fed (...)


3 posted on 01/20/2013 7:03:40 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: moonshinner_09
Virginia's universities continue to have highly selective graduate school entry requirements that BAR many Virginians from attending those schools at all. Extending in-state tuition to foreign students will simply displace more Virginia citizens from positions at the graduate level.

Their only choices will be out of state schools, or far more expensive private schools.

The members of the legislature who have made this anti-American and anti-Virginian proposal should be taken out and horsewhipped ~ now, will that be done? That's up to the Speaker of the House here ~ and it has been done before.

4 posted on 01/20/2013 7:03:48 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: moonshinner_09

“Have a heart, Virginia.” - Rick Perry


5 posted on 01/20/2013 7:07:43 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: Liz; AuntB; South40

Ping.


6 posted on 01/20/2013 7:09:45 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: moonshinner_09

When free money, food stamps, health care and housing are just not enough.


7 posted on 01/20/2013 7:14:18 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: moonshinner_09
. Mexico offers free college educations to their people, they can really pursue a higher education in their own country free of charge.

Go there, learn in your own language and help that country prosper.

8 posted on 01/20/2013 7:15:43 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: muawiyah

Isn’t the Obama administration’s phasing-out of 287(g) in Virginia claiming it cost to much money to run the program ?


9 posted on 01/20/2013 7:27:35 AM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09
"But for some who consider themselves Americans, the rule does not apply."

And there it is....they CONSIDER themselves Americans, so we need to be compassionate and tolerant and go along with their FEELINGS, even if it helps to seal the death of the Republic.

I remember when I used to be proud to be a Virginian.

10 posted on 01/20/2013 7:48:41 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: cripplecreek

“It becomes part of the expectation for young immigrants that they won’t be able to go to college,”

...no Dean Dipshi&. Not for “immigrants”. For illegal aliens. As usual, most of the dumbasses in this country will agree with the community college prez.


11 posted on 01/20/2013 7:57:01 AM PST by albie
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To: moonshinner_09

“undocumented immigrants” BS!

Foreigners present illegally.


12 posted on 01/20/2013 9:38:49 AM PST by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: All
Before they subsidize another illegal freebie, Virginians who work for a living need to know: (1) How many US govt checks are these college Dreamers cashing? (2) How many identities are they using.......all riding the US gravy train?

It's downright amazing how Obama and vote-crazed politicians can kneel in obeisance, suck-up for latino votes, at the same time they're "defending" the US Constitution (snix).

Law-abiding Americans must demand answers to these penetrating questions.

(1) Why are illegal lawbreakers given the protection of: (a) federal and state govts, (b) the Obama Admin, (c) the DOJ, (d) the US Congress, (e) other govt officials/workers/agencies and institutions?

(2) Are Obama and Virgina politicans acting on orders from foreign governments?

(3) Why was an illegal lawbreaker (a registered sex offender) given a job in US Senator Menendez's office ---- and is now being offered more protections and rights than law-abiding Americans?

(4) What are the penalties imposed on US and state govt officials for using tax-paid govt offices, govt resources, and govt authority, to aid and abet wrongdoing---and why are they not being mobilized?

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AS TADSLOS INSIGHTFULLY POSTED:

Americans have the foreign government of Mexico (and its co-conspirators in the Third World), that continually and relentlesly meddle in the internal affairs of the US----and BOTH vote-crazed political parties----- and ALL three branches of our government---- enable and actively participate in the process. Mexico, however, would NEVER cede it’s sovereignty to the US - but they sure don’t mind taking our foreign aid dollars. Mexico is a giant leech, sucking us dry.

Is Mexico our friend or foe? During World War II, Mexico was the site of pro-German activity while US soldiers were being slaughtered by the German war machine and innocent Jews were sent to Germanm death camps. US secret agents found supplies of high test aviation gas hidden by the German high command in Baja California....a Mexican outpost.

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Mexico and the Third World are pushing north at a furious pace----visions of foreign aid tax dollars dancing in their heads. These are more of their Fifth Column pressure groups acting on orders from their homelands.

The Mexican government adopts one, very smooth, tone when speaking to its patsies in America---vote-crazed US pols---- and another, very militant, tone when speaking to its own people about its ruthlessness in pursuing its own national interest at the expense of ours.

As long as vote-crazed politicans continue to suck-up to hyphenates to get re/elected, this scam will continue.

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More proof Mexico has NEVER been our friend!

Mexicans sign petition for U.S. gun control

http://www.whptv.com/news/world/story/Mexicans-sign-petition-for-U-S-gun-control/c3oLDyvpy0mJUgXuDEBSyw.cspx?rss=53

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This is unprecedented---a two-bit foreign govt aiding and abetting in undermining the constitutional freedoms of Americans and subverting the national security of a sovereign govt.

Americans have no govt defending their interersts----but every invader on our shores has TWO govts defending their interests---(1) vote-crazed pols in our govt, and, (2) Mexico (and Third World co-conspirators egging on the rest of the hyphenate invaders).

There's plenty of collusion and conspiracy going on and lots of secrecy. This must be stopped.

The Founders escaped foreign domination and structured the new American govt with safeguards to keep Americans free and safe from foreign domination.

All of the laws and legal measures are there but they are not being employed.

13 posted on 01/20/2013 11:16:24 AM PST by Liz
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To: TADSLOS
Sure, why not? Texas led the way in pandering to ILLEGALs; they were even ahead of Kalifornistan.

If doing such a thing is acceptable in a "red, conservative" state like Texas, why not a purple state like Virginia? /s

14 posted on 01/20/2013 4:05:23 PM PST by South40
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