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New York Gun Control Law Exposed: 15 More Measures Left Out Of Final Bill
PolicyMic ^ | January 21, 2013 | Jack Lee

Posted on 01/21/2013 7:35:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

New York passed the toughest gun control laws in the nation last week. The SAFE Act called for a new assault weapons ban, among other measures. Over this past weekend, New York State Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin revealed other measures that were removed from the final bill that was eventually signed into law.

These 15 measures were pulled from the final bill:

1. Confiscation of "assault weapons"

2. Confiscation of ten round clips

3. Statewide database for ALL Guns

4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder's information to be replaced to the public

5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as "assault weapons”

6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines

7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines

8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month

9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners

10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years

11. State issued pistol permits

12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State

13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers

14. Mandatory locking of guns at home

15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons

This list reveals that gun control advocates were pushing for even harder measures to be included in the bill. But what is most telling is that these advocates were calling for confiscation of so-called "assault weapons" as well as the confiscation of magazines over five_rounds, which would be almost all magazines. Another point to note is that these measures also called for a "database" or registry of all firearms in the state as well as a fee-for-licensing as well as registering.

A Democrat in the assembly urged McLaughlin not to share this list as it would serve to "dampen compromise."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at policymic.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; cuomo; gunconfiscation; guncontrol; newyork; secondamendment
Read that list carefully.
1 posted on 01/21/2013 7:35:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s for next month or year.


2 posted on 01/21/2013 7:36:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hate every single one of these. Yet I’m sure the would-be fascists will try again and again to get their wet dream through.


3 posted on 01/21/2013 7:48:35 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Travis McGee

These and more will pass after the next school shooting.


4 posted on 01/21/2013 7:54:15 PM PST by umgud
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To: ThunderSleeps

It’s time for New Yorkers to get their collective act together and challenge the new law in court. Then start a recall petition for every legislator and the Governor that signed on to this debacle. New York, take back your state!!!


5 posted on 01/21/2013 7:58:47 PM PST by 41Thunder (The SUPPLY of Government is GREATER than the DEMAND of the people)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Aside from the obvious, the other thing I take from this is that Cooomo & Co. also realize that there aren't a lot of cops outside of L.I. that want to risk getting an extra hole shot in their asses while trying to enforce it.

As much as I hate to cite Slick Willy as the stereotypical 'stopped clock twice a day' blah blah blah, he said it himself (for his own reasons): those of us out here live in a different world than those who sequester themselves in the halls of power and wish to lord over us from On High.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

6 posted on 01/21/2013 7:59:54 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

New York City is a place where you can buy anything you want if you can pay the price. These restrictions would only expand an underground firearms market that already flourishes.


7 posted on 01/21/2013 8:00:49 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Continue to allow pistol permit holder's information to be replaced to the public"

I've seen this list several times now, and this one item is stated exactly the same each time. It's so badly written, that I only half understand it.

8 posted on 01/21/2013 8:07:09 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What are ya’ll worried about? Gaff-a-day Biden has already said they don’t have enough time to prosecute all these new laws, so no neeed to worry! /s


9 posted on 01/21/2013 8:12:02 PM PST by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: ImNotLying

Mr. Biden is already making noises like he’ll be running for president in 2016. No, I’m not kidding.


10 posted on 01/21/2013 8:19:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What chu talkin bout Willis? Gaff-a-day Biden already thinks he IS President. At a rally a couple of days ago he said, “I am proud to be your President”. I am not chittin you.


12 posted on 01/21/2013 8:24:30 PM PST by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: ImNotLying

http://www.policymic.com/articles/23686/joe-biden-says-i-m-proud-to-be-president-on-stage-was-it-a-gaffe-or-2016-hint


13 posted on 01/21/2013 8:30:05 PM PST by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: Windflier

You’re doing better than me...I don’t understand it at all! :-D


14 posted on 01/21/2013 9:52:14 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We need to start looking at different ways at building support and getting information out there to those people who can help us salvage whatever is left of the greatness our nation was built on.

We can't deny the enormous amount we have lost as a nation, but we must also see that there is still remnants of that greatness that has survived. That part of our culture must find a new way to expand the power of that ideology. We are living in a post-constitutional era. We have been losing ground for decades, and must realize we need new strategies to have any chance.

We face a tyrannical government that has a powerful media network behind it that reaches more viewers than all other media. They are threats to our liberty the same as any politician, or any force willing to follow unconstitutional orders against innocent American citizens.

Our society is full of people who are extremely ignorant about the Constitution. It's something that affects all levels of our society. It's a problem with our politicians, law enforcement, and military personal just like it is with the rest of us. Most of these people are intelligent, but have never been educated in a meaningful manner on the subject.

A lot of us admittedly have a lot more to learn when it comes to the Constitution, and have taught ourselves almost everything we do know. Most of us can think back to when we had some very ignorant views, or didn't have an opinion on some issues that we see as a very irresponsible position now. I know there are some who have been well educated and/or interested in the Constitution from a very young age, but they are unfortunately an exception to the rule. It's more of a failure of society overall, and an intentional strategy to erode it's meaning by those who oppose it.

We can only do so much now. Some people, across the age spectrum, have been waking up to the truth recently because of recent events. Unfortunately some will never wake up.

I know there is a lot I still need to learn. I know that without taking a personal interest in learning about the Constitution I wouldn't know much of what I do now as well. I think an effort to teach people in a respectable way is something that should be worked at. There are intelligent people out there who are in positions to defend the Constitution, but who know little about it. Many can be reached.

There are many law enforcement members who are not given adequate training with firearms, or the laws they are meant to enforce. They must either teach themselves, or end up like many do in a situation where they look bad. Increased training with firearms, Constitutional training, and a much more in-depth study of the laws they will enforce would be a great example of getting something positive done at one of the many levels of government that need help. Especially when it comes to gun rights, and other situation that could go bad if some LEOs aren't sure about the law.

Starting over from the ashes of our monstrosity of a government, and starting anew is probably the only way we could even have a chance to work everything out on a larger scale. Our education system needs a K-12 in-depth study of our Constitution among other things.

OATHKEEPERS.COM

15 posted on 01/21/2013 10:16:47 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We need to start looking at different ways at building support and getting information out there to those people who can help us salvage whatever is left of the greatness our nation was built on.

We can't deny the enormous amount we have lost as a nation, but we must also see that there is still remnants of that greatness that has survived. That part of our culture must find a new way to expand the power of that ideology. We are living in a post-constitutional era. We have been losing ground for decades, and must realize we need new strategies to have any chance.

We face a tyrannical government that has a powerful media network behind it that reaches more viewers than all other media. They are threats to our liberty the same as any politician, or any force willing to follow unconstitutional orders against innocent American citizens.

Our society is full of people who are extremely ignorant about the Constitution. It's something that affects all levels of our society. It's a problem with our politicians, law enforcement, and military personal just like it is with the rest of us. Most of these people are intelligent, but have never been educated in a meaningful manner on the subject.

A lot of us admittedly have a lot more to learn when it comes to the Constitution, and have taught ourselves almost everything we do know. Most of us can think back to when we had some very ignorant views, or didn't have an opinion on some issues that we see as a very irresponsible position now. I know there are some who have been well educated and/or interested in the Constitution from a very young age, but they are unfortunately an exception to the rule. It's more of a failure of society overall, and an intentional strategy to erode it's meaning by those who oppose it.

We can only do so much now. Some people, across the age spectrum, have been waking up to the truth recently because of recent events. Unfortunately some will never wake up.

I know there is a lot I still need to learn. I know that without taking a personal interest in learning about the Constitution I wouldn't know much of what I do now as well. I think an effort to teach people in a respectable way is something that should be worked at. There are intelligent people out there who are in positions to defend the Constitution, but who know little about it. Many can be reached.

There are many law enforcement members who are not given adequate training with firearms, or the laws they are meant to enforce. They must either teach themselves, or end up like many do in a situation where they look bad. Increased training with firearms, Constitutional training, and a much more in-depth study of the laws they will enforce would be a great example of getting something positive done at one of the many levels of government that need help. Especially when it comes to gun rights, and other situation that could go bad if some LEOs aren't sure about the law.

Starting over from the ashes of our monstrosity of a government, and starting anew is probably the only way we could even have a chance to work everything out on a larger scale. Our education system needs a K-12 in-depth study of our Constitution among other things.

OATHKEEPERS.COM

16 posted on 01/21/2013 10:17:06 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Travis McGee

Interactive FAQ from the Governor’s website:

http://www.governor.ny.gov/2013/gun-reforms-faq


17 posted on 01/22/2013 2:23:10 AM PST by panaxanax
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To: 41Thunder

New Yorkers, with few exceptions (but there are some!), have happily embraced their own subjugation; they much prefer safe slavery to dangerous freedom.


18 posted on 01/22/2013 3:40:01 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six

Except that Hurricane Sandy demonstrated that even safe slavery is dangerous.

Recall the tales in the aftermath of people trying to defend themselves from the feral looters, using machetes and archery equipment.


19 posted on 01/22/2013 4:32:44 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suppose my old Marlin Glenfield Model 60 with its 17 round tube magazine (.22LR) is now considered an assault weapon. I received this rifle in 1962 for my 16th birthday. That’s when I graduated from a pellet gun to a 22.


20 posted on 01/22/2013 4:58:57 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: BuffaloJack

I’m old enough to remember those wonderful old guns. Just right for plinking as well as rabbits,squirrels and bull frogs.


21 posted on 01/22/2013 5:04:50 AM PST by billhilly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thanks to those who would enslave us. What are you going to do when we disagree with YOU taking our guns, kill us?


22 posted on 01/22/2013 5:10:44 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What this law said is that New Yorkers live in a totalitarian state, have a dictator for governor and have lost all formerly guaranteed constitutional rights and freedoms.


23 posted on 01/22/2013 5:24:32 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

My dad and grandfather began teaching me about the Constitution and our nation’s founding principles when I was six years old.
I was fascinated by it and very appreciative of the rights we enjoy.
Then I had a second grade teacher who was a wonderful and brilliant lady.
She spent months going through the Bill of Rights, and sent a great deal of time talking about the importance and significance of the Second Amendment and an armed populace.
She discussed how we were so unique in that our founders wanted the government to fear us, not the other way around.
I owe a lot to my family and that public school teacher forthe early development of my political ideology.
I was of course raised in a Christian home too, and the values I was raised with are roots that took hold early and survived the trials of college and early adulthood.
My point is that I agree with you. Far too many people don’t have a clue what this country was founded on or why they should even care.
Most politicians don’t want people to know either, which is why kids are not taught these things anymore in public schools.


24 posted on 01/22/2013 5:36:31 AM PST by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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