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Arizona Senator Jeff Flake to consider "Universal Background Checks"
Gun Watch ^ | 22 January, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 01/21/2013 9:24:38 PM PST by marktwain

Freshman Senator from Arizona, Jeff Flake, appears to be bending from pressure in the media to "do something" to infringe on Second Amendment Rights. Given the rumors about Senator John McCain, one wonders if John may be giving his younger colleague advice. On Sunday, 20 January, this was published in the Arizona Republic:

Echoing many of his lower-chamber colleagues on Friday, Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., said he likely would have a hard time supporting a new federal ban on “assault weapons” and high-capacity magazines but suggested there may be common ground on universal background checks.

“I’ve always said we’ve got to do a better job of keeping guns out of the hands of those who shouldn’t have them,” Flake said. “There have been some technological issues with gun shows, and you want to make sure that people can legally buy guns for protection or recreation or collection without untimely delays. But I think technology has moved so that we can better deal with that issue and have broader background checks.”

Requiring the 99 percent who are law abiding to jump through hoops in order to try to keep the 1 percent who are dangerous from aquireing firearms has always been a losing proposition. It is a failed paradigm that should be abandoned. It has always been a path meant to end with registration so as to enable confiscation.

Jeff Flake has an A rating with the NRA. It is time for his constituents to remind him that they do not need, nor does it serve the public, to suffer further infringements on the Second Amendment with "universal firearms registration" I mean "universal background checks", which are designed to end up at the same place.

What does work are projects to make sure that those who are prohibited from having firearms do not have them. That has been tried and does work. Limited resources should be applied to that effort, not the irresponsible and ineffective idea of establishing dangerous bureaucracies to check on millions to catch a few irresponsible individuals.

Dean Weingarten


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: az; backgroundchecks; banglist; guncontrol; jeffflake; secondamendment
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"Universal Background Checks" are just a code to move toward Universal Firearms Registration. They will accomplish nothing to reduce crime, they have always been a failure in this regard.

If you want to reduce crime, go after those who truely should not have weapons.

1 posted on 01/21/2013 9:24:42 PM PST by marktwain
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To: HiJinx; SandRat

Here. Now.


2 posted on 01/21/2013 9:39:03 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: marktwain

Confucius say man who look for gun find bullet.


3 posted on 01/21/2013 9:39:06 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower.)
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To: marktwain

Ah republicans, they never cease to not amaze me.


4 posted on 01/21/2013 9:49:32 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: marktwain

http://www.flake.senate.gov/


5 posted on 01/21/2013 9:49:41 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: marktwain

Universal Sanity Checks? Will this apply to voter registrations as well?


6 posted on 01/21/2013 9:50:44 PM PST by petitfour
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To: marktwain

Well, maybe this is an opportunity to walk back some of the bad ideas that we’ve had shoved down our throats since 1968.

For instance, if all we’re concerned about is “background checks”, why does a 4473 have to go along with every firearm? Change the law — run a potential buyer through NICs, sure, no problem. But why keep a record of the private sale firearm that two private citizens want to sell?


7 posted on 01/21/2013 9:59:34 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: marktwain

Psalm 146:3


8 posted on 01/21/2013 10:13:13 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: absalom01

I could go along with universal checks if the make, model, and serial number of the transferred firearm were not recorded on the form. But they are, so I am opposed.


9 posted on 01/21/2013 10:16:56 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

Well, it won’t change, because the immediate goal is registration, but it could.

What congress mandates, congress can unmandate.


10 posted on 01/21/2013 10:26:05 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: marktwain

the GOP senate should be required to carry strap on dildos with them at all times so they can be reminded what they are doing to us by being so damned weak

sickening


11 posted on 01/21/2013 10:30:15 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: marktwain

I’m for universal background checks, if we can solve the problem of how to check backgrounds without giving one private person access to information about another private person’s fitness to own a gun.

I believe you should be able to request your own background check. That way, if you find you are flagged in error, you can take care of it, and if it turns out you are flagged correctly, in the sense that legally you are not allowed to buy a gun, you KNOW this so you don’t go try to buy a gun and then get prosecuted for trying when you weren’t allowed.

Having checked ahead of time, you should then be able to give another private owner a code, which they could use to go to the background check site, which would tell them ONLY if you cleared. They wouldn’t get your information, and couldn’t randomly check people.

And NO registration. Not until we have a way to ensure the list is only accessable by GUN, and not accessable until a particular gun is used in a crime.

The left has demonstrated how gun registration leads to crime. So eliminating registration is the best way to limit gun crimes.

But so long as there are laws that constitutionally prohibit certain people from having guns, I support the means to enforce those laws, which means background checks.


12 posted on 01/21/2013 10:31:46 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: marktwain

I agree with you that it doesn’t look like background checks are really doing anything to stop gun violence — but it’s hard to say since we have no idea how many potential criminals are being deterred because they can’t allow their names to be checked.


13 posted on 01/21/2013 10:33:08 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: marktwain

Jeff better remember his base or he will be looking for a new job next election. Arizonans don’t go for that gun control crap AT ALL


14 posted on 01/21/2013 10:34:12 PM PST by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: marktwain

Unfortunately for the liberals, Flake is in the Senate, not the house. The House is where all this craps stops dead.


15 posted on 01/21/2013 10:36:33 PM PST by BobL
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To: coloradan

“I could go along with universal checks if the make, model, and serial number of the transferred firearm were not recorded on the form. But they are, so I am opposed.”

Good point...what is the EXCUSE for recording all of that information? Other than maybe class of firearms, why is the other info needed?


16 posted on 01/21/2013 10:38:06 PM PST by BobL
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To: marktwain

The Left are desperate to push gun control as fast as possible.


17 posted on 01/21/2013 10:45:18 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: marktwain

Sure, why not have background checks for speech, assembly, redress, and practicing religion while we are at it.


18 posted on 01/21/2013 10:49:37 PM PST by Theoria
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To: marktwain

I’m waiting for Flake to do a background check on Obama..then come talk about gun owners Obama has his finger on the button.


19 posted on 01/21/2013 10:50:40 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: marktwain

I am for background checks but NOT UNIVERSAL registration. Why would any one want ex-cons, spouse abusers, mentally sick people to be able to buy guns without a background check? It is said that most gun crime is committed with illegal guns but how do we know that? For every gun crime which results in arrest and gun confiscation there are many more unsolved crimes. We just do not know what exact gun was used in unsolved crimes. How many of the 504 Chicago murders in 2012 were solved and guns confiscated?

I completely agree universal registration on a national level is step towards confiscation at worst and unnecessary expense at best.


20 posted on 01/21/2013 11:02:22 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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