Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Feinstein Opens Gun Control Presser With Prayer By Clergyman
http://www.weeklystandard.com/ ^ | January 24,2013 | Michael Warren

Posted on 01/24/2013 12:25:36 PM PST by Biggirl

The Very Rev. Gary Hall, dean of the National Cathedral in Washington, said Thursday morning that "people of faith" should come together to fight for gun control against the "gun lobby."

(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: banglist; feinstein; guncontrol; hall; secondamendment
"The gun lobby is not match for the cross lobby."
1 posted on 01/24/2013 12:25:44 PM PST by Biggirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

LMAO! They’re trying to pit Christians against pro-gunners? Do they not remember that they pissed off Christians with Obamacare abortion mandates?


2 posted on 01/24/2013 12:28:20 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Somebody didn’t get the memo that Christians cling bitterly to their guns and Bibles.

Maybe they meant to say that the gun lobby is no match for the cross-dressing lobby. This is the clergyman from the National Cathedral, after all...


3 posted on 01/24/2013 12:29:31 PM PST by butterdezillion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl
You know she's desperate if the Jesus card is her opening play. I imagine the good clergyman won't be quoting Luke 22:36, though. ;-)

"He said to them, "But now if you have a coinpurse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

4 posted on 01/24/2013 12:32:20 PM PST by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

...dean of the National Cathedral in Washington...

That’s really the National EPISCOPALIAN Cathedral in Washington—run by an ultraliberal, apostate denomination!!!!

Try getting the rectors of the local Serbian Orthodox or ROCOR cathedrals instead—if you dare, Feinstein!!!!


5 posted on 01/24/2013 12:32:41 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Jesus rebuke him.


6 posted on 01/24/2013 12:33:23 PM PST by Truth2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl
Hey, where is that seperation between church and state you liberals are always whineing about? Was there a mooslum mulla there too ? Anyone from the tree hugger religon wicken ?

Anyone ? Bueller ?

7 posted on 01/24/2013 12:33:32 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Freedom is my F word.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

No Sale. We Baptists are keeping our guns.


8 posted on 01/24/2013 12:34:13 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Nice that he could fit it in between gay weddings. I was in a choir that performed at the cathedral in 2000. I was awed at the time. Now I am revolted.


9 posted on 01/24/2013 12:35:47 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Nice that he could fit it in between gay weddings. I was in a choir that performed at the cathedral in 2000. I was awed at the time. Now I am revolted.


10 posted on 01/24/2013 12:36:18 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

This “reverend” is the same poofter who is now performing queer weedings in the National Cathedral.

How disgusting.


11 posted on 01/24/2013 12:37:04 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

The Very Rev. Gary Hall, dean of the National Cathedral in Washington that is now performing same sex ‘marriage’ also wants to ban guns.
I see nothing very reverend about that.


12 posted on 01/24/2013 12:38:05 PM PST by RedMDer (HEY LIBS! GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS AVAILABLE NOW. I DARE YA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

“But I believe the gun lobby is no match for the cross lobby.”

Crossbow Lobby? Do they have a lobby?


13 posted on 01/24/2013 12:39:13 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!!


14 posted on 01/24/2013 12:39:13 PM PST by cotton1706
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Luk 11:21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:
Luk 11:22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.


15 posted on 01/24/2013 12:39:54 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Pretty funny when the atheists and agnostics think that they can rally the Christians to advance their anti-gun crusade! Guess they don’t know who those people are who own the guns! What a bunch of fools.


16 posted on 01/24/2013 12:41:41 PM PST by zagger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Isn’t Feinstein Jewish?


17 posted on 01/24/2013 12:44:18 PM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: butterdezillion

Do you think that Rev. Gary Hall, dean of the National Cathedral in Washington looks like he may be accused of being a child molester at some point. It’s a look they have. Short eyes.


18 posted on 01/24/2013 12:48:31 PM PST by Rapscallion (How's that tyranny working out for you now, hmmm?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Steel Wolf

or in Nehemiah when the Israelites were instructed to rebuild the walls with a trowel in one hand and a sword in the other, to defend against attacks


19 posted on 01/24/2013 12:49:39 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

“Isn’t Feinstein Jewish?”

She absolutely is (along with Barbara Boxer), which is another thing.....I find it astounding how many Jews in the US are liberal Democrats, because the Democratic Party’s values are not compatible with traditional Jewish values, nor are they friendly towards Israel.


20 posted on 01/24/2013 12:51:39 PM PST by wk4bush2004
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Biggirl ~:” “people of faith” should come together to fight for gun control against the “gun lobby.” “

My right to bear arms is a God-given right to defend myself.
The right to defend doesn’t come from Government .
My right to ‘bear arms’is articulated in the 2nd amendment
, and my right “ shall not be infringed “.
I have the God-given right to defend myself , and not be a victim !

The libturds will hide behind religion when they can
even though they themselves are agnostic or atheists.
They will hide behind behind children when they can
.. Oh !! That’s right ,they already pulled that ploy !!

“It doesn’t really make sense to ban guns, because in reality
what that means is that you are actually banning effective self-defense.
Despite the constant hammering by a news media with an agenda,
guns are used in America far more to stop crime than to cause crime. “ ~ by Larry Correia


21 posted on 01/24/2013 12:54:42 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Pay attention - the inmates are RUNNING the asylum!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rapscallion

This is the same idiot who announced the National Cathedral will now perform gay Marriage ceremonies. He is a tool of the left.


22 posted on 01/24/2013 12:54:55 PM PST by Girlene
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Salvavida
No Sale. We Baptists are keeping our guns.

Roger that.

23 posted on 01/24/2013 12:54:55 PM PST by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

This is disgusting and for these atheists and haters of religion to use religion to further their cause is utter hypocrisy. This is not going to work and they have no idea of the backlash that is coming especially in the 2014 elections.


24 posted on 01/24/2013 12:55:57 PM PST by The Great RJ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Does the Rev. mean this gun lobby?

Ezekiel 33 “... 6 ‘But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman’s hand.’

If you know danger is coming to others, and you deliberately fail to warn the others of the danger, you are guilty of harming the victims. This is not to say that you can make people heed your warning. The surrounding verses also say that if the people refuse to heed the warning of the watchmen, the watchman is not guilty if they are harmed.


25 posted on 01/24/2013 12:59:33 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rightwingintelligentsia

Yes and this stupid airhead will find out that Obama and his thugs will remind her of that one day


26 posted on 01/24/2013 1:01:08 PM PST by Patriot Babe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl
And, THIS from the party that overwhelmingly voted to OUST God from their convention?

FUDF!

27 posted on 01/24/2013 1:01:37 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Biggirl ~:” The Very Rev. Gary Hall, dean of the National Cathedral in Washington, said Thursday morning that “people of faith” should come together to fight for gun control against the “gun lobby.” “

Hey Biggirl ~ Has Very Rev. Gary Hall spoken out publicly on behalf of other Christians or other religions ?
Is his criticism selective ?
The Coptics of Egypt - being killed and raped by muslums ?
The Christians of Mali - being hunted down, killed and raped by Muslums ?
The Jews and Christians of Turkey and Syria who are being raped and killed by Muslums ?
The Hindu ,Seiks and Buddists of India who are being killed and raped by Muslums ?
What do they all have in common ?
HINT : unarmed and Muslums !

Take a hint (see above ) , .. and THINK about it !


28 posted on 01/24/2013 1:06:59 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Pay attention - the inmates are RUNNING the asylum!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl
The first Amendment is worshiped by the MSM to be used to their liking, not ours.
The Second Amendment,, again,, The Second Amendment is what keeps the first Amendment free.

Do you get that liberal lurkers?

How about we start going after the first Amendment starting with the media,
and by our terms and conditions. Oh wait, it already is by Conservative terms and conditions.
That's ok, we'll keep our guns at the ready to protect the 1st. Take them away and you have nothing.

29 posted on 01/24/2013 1:08:38 PM PST by MaxMax (Gun free zones was the invitation to gun bans by the left, at any cost)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl
Here's the down low on Gary Hall. He surely has illusions of grandeur. Seat of Liberalism
30 posted on 01/24/2013 1:09:07 PM PST by Girlene
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Is this the guy presiding over the Gay marriages at the National Cathedral?


31 posted on 01/24/2013 1:11:22 PM PST by BOOHA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

The Fabian socialists subverted the theological seminaries over a hundred years ago, that is why there is so much socialism from the pulpit.

I guess they figure they have divided the country along so many lines over the past two decades and especially the last four years, that they will now divide Christians according to the “Jesus wants me to lay by head on the chopping block rather than fight to defend myself” theology vs. the “Jesus wants me to strive for peace but to take down any enemy that seeks to take my life or the life of my loved ones” theology.

It’s sad that Christianity is has been so subverted by socialists (who are almost all atheistic humanists) that they feel the time is ripe for this divide.


32 posted on 01/24/2013 1:11:40 PM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Puppage
And, THIS from the party that overwhelmingly voted to OUST God from their convention?

Three times.
33 posted on 01/24/2013 1:12:10 PM PST by Girlene
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: BOOHA
Is this the guy presiding over the Gay marriages at the National Cathedral?

Yes.
34 posted on 01/24/2013 1:14:40 PM PST by Girlene
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: The Great RJ
This is disgusting and for these atheists and haters of religion to use religion to further their cause is utter hypocrisy. This is not going to work and they have no idea of the backlash that is coming especially in the 2014 elections.

One early indicator of this backlash just happened here in Pennsylvania. The Eastern Sports and Outdoor Show was postponed after vendors pulled out over the show's recent ban on AR type weapons.

35 posted on 01/24/2013 1:22:39 PM PST by patriotsblood
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: patriotsblood

Looks like it’s time to boycott Calipornia until they either suceed from the union or remove this NAZI.


36 posted on 01/24/2013 1:44:24 PM PST by VRWCarea51
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl
I guess it would upset some folks to know that really traditional Christians have a prayer (actually a brief order of service) for the blessing of weapons:

The Bishop or Priest comes out of the Altar to a table before the Amvon on which the weapons are placed, and he censes the weapons crosswise while the Reader begins as is common:

Reader: O Heavenly King, Trisagion,etc....Psalm 35. Alleluia.

Deacon: Let us pray to the Lord

The Bishop or Priest reads this prayer over the weapons:

O Lord our God, God of Power and Might, powerful in strength, strong in battle, You once gave miraculous strength to Your child David granting him victory over his opponent the blasphemer Goliath. Mercifully accept our humble prayer. Send Your heavenly blessing upon these weapons (..naming each weapon..). Give to them power and strength that they may protect Your holy Church, the poor and the widows, and Your holy inheritance on earth, and make them horrible and terrible to any enemy army, and grant victory to Your people for your glory, for You are our strength and protection and unto You do we send up praise and glory, to the Father, and the Son and the Holy Spirit, now and ever, and to the ages of ages. Amen.

Then the Priest sprinkles blessed water on the weapons saying:

Let the blessing of the Tri-une God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, come down on and remain upon these weapons and those who carry them, for the protection of the truth of Christ. Amen.

After this the soldiers carrying the weapons are blessed, with the prayer:

Be brave and let your heart be stronger and win victory over your enemies, trusting in God, in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

After this each soldier kisses the honourable cross.

This is the way to bless sword and sabre. If there is only one sword to be blessed, or only one sabre, he says only once: this sword, or: this weapon. If there are many, he says: bless these swords, or: bless these weapons.

And, lest it be objected that this applies only to arms born by soldiers in armies constituted by sitting governments, I would note that the prayer was used to bless the arms of Orthodox Christians rising up against Ottoman rule at various times throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, who were very much acting as a militia in the sense the American Founders would have recognized, or that it applies only to old edged weapons, that on those occasions it was used to bless firearms.

Of course, the flip side of this, which shows the ambivalent Christian attitude toward the sad necessity in our fallen world of bearing arms is that there are canonical penances specified for killing in war (or self-defense), albeit much lighter than those for murder, and the commission homicide, even in war, in self-defense, or accidentally is an absolute impediment to ordination to the priesthood.

37 posted on 01/24/2013 1:45:48 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Salvavida

No Sale. We Baptists are keeping our guns.

This Catholic is too~


38 posted on 01/24/2013 2:07:06 PM PST by Isabel2010
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: All

The quote I posted came from the same Rev. Gary Hall.


39 posted on 01/24/2013 2:07:26 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Isabel2010

This Catholic supports Amendment 2 and those who are legal, law abiding gun owners.


40 posted on 01/24/2013 2:26:20 PM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Biggirl

Fine-Swine and other commies trot out religion when it suits their agenda. Stalin did it too, in WW2 to rally people against the Nazis.


41 posted on 01/24/2013 3:01:14 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson