Skip to comments.Columbus Meets Indigenous People
Posted on 01/25/2013 10:07:34 AM PST by Academiadotorg
Poor old Chris Columbus. Generations of schoolchildren were taught to praise his exploits, which after all included the discovery of America, according to The College Fix. But lately things have taken an ugly turnand his reputation has suffered irreparable damage, thanks to a claque of revisionist historians who have slowly but surely knocked him off his pedestal.
The latest blow to Columbuss heroic status came from Arizona State University, Tempe, which decided to change Columbus Day to Indigenous People Day. The switch was apparently long overdue, since enlightened souls in the city of Berkeley had launched the first such observance in 1992.
However, Roger Clegg of the Center for Equal Opportunity believes this might just be another example of political correctness run wild. We should be able to celebrate both without denigrating either, said Clegg, adding that replacing Columbus Day with Indigenous People Day . . .is a silly anti-Western statement and a celebration of fashionable victimhood.
Deborah Lambert writes the Squeaky Chalk column for Accuracy in Academia. If you would like to comment on this article, e-mail email@example.com.
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ignore these people. eventually some mafioso is going to get po’d and disappear some of them. i don’t want to be near any of them when that happens.
Revisionist historians never go out of business.
What about when the people who crossed the Bering Land bridge met up with people in North America who came here via the north atlantic route?
Or when the many instances of one group/tribe/country running roughshot over another for say like the last 10,000 years.....
Boo Frickin’ Hoo...
You mean, like the Aztecs and the ritual slaughter of their neighbors?
I invite them all to turn over their homes, jobs, and possessions to “indigenous peoples” and return to the countries of their ancestors. It’s easy to criticize what happened 500 years ago but hold yourself as entitled.
***”... enslaving the Caribs using them as a work force until they were practically extinct and then bringing in black slaves from Africa to replace them is so lame.***
Especially since the Caribs were chowing down on the Arawak tribes at the time. The Arawaks were almost extinct when Colombus landed.
Colombus’ men raided a Carib camp where they found pregnant Arawak women in cages. The reason was Caribs had a sweet tooth for fresh born cooked Arawak baby flesh.
Bernal Diaz De Castillo wrote that Montezuma often consumed the flesh of sacrificed children. Bernal was unsure if the Spaniards had eaten human flesh in the foods the Aztecs gave them.
Columbus planned on sailing BETWEEN the two continents to reach The Indies on the backside. He didn't know CENTRAL America was in between.
Not only were the Vikings in Greenland 500 years before Columbus sailed, but they explored the eastern shores of North America, had a winter camp on the south shore of the Cape Cod and tried to set up a colony up the Hudson River. A wicked cold winter there changed their minds.
Then, in 1398, a hundred years before Columbus sailed, Prince Henry Sinclair of Scotland sailed to Nova Scotia (he had a fleet of ships larger than the King of Scotland) with the Zeno brothers of Genoa - map makers...remember that name?
There's also evidence that Sinclair explored the eastern seaboard.
It's also documented history that Columbus was brought back to Spain in chains, from his 3rd voyage to the New World, per orders of the Queen because of his genocide of the Natives - and his plans to establish HIMSELF, over the Queen, as the ruler in the new land.
There's a plethora of history on all of this - and Columbus himself never claimed to have discovered a whole new world.
the myth still taught in schools is swallowed hook, line and anchor by most, who never question what's they’re told in school...much like the still prevailing notion that the Pilgrims dressed in black and white and didn't drink ‘spirits’ or sing and dance. ALL untrue. They clumped them in with the Puritans of Boston Bay Colony - arch enemies and up-tight control freaks. The truth has been available for decades, but the myth continues. and the swallowing continues.
Good little sheep.
(I was going to post links but you all have access to the net. Too lazy to do your own research? Open wide...
The Spanish arriving in the new world was the equivalent of the Allies liberating the nazi death camps. The eradication of the Aztec death cults was something that should be celebrated.
As someone else said, everyone around them lived under some form of slavery and routine mass murder at their hands.
“Columbus was brought back to Spain in chains, from his 3rd voyage to the New World, per orders of the Queen because of his genocide of the Natives - and his plans to establish HIMSELF, over the Queen, as the ruler in the new land.”
LOL,, like the queen gave a rats azz about the treatment of the natives. She had one and only one worry, the available gold, and would she lose out to him becoming a leader there. After all you know, God himself put the queen into her position.
Had the aborigenes the technology and potical unity they would have been the invaders. But they didn’t.
Did I say it was an excuse? No. I brought it up as an example of hypocrisy.
I'm fully aware of the atrocities humans have committed against other humans throughout time. Unfortunately, today, it's only "The White Man" who is blamed for all the bad in the world. As if nothing ever happened in any other culture, anywhere else, at any other time.
note to idiot academics - “native” Mexicans are not “native” to the lands north of the Rio Grande;
they are part of the Spanish colonial society that followed Spain’s conquests in the Americas, as well as the caudillo society down in Mexico that followed the local (Mexican born Spaniards) revolt and independence from Spain.
Until the “Spanish” and the later evolving “Hispanic” period of Mexico, the natives of Mexico found in the Aztec empire, dominated by the Mixtec’s, never had their own towns, villages, cities or settlements much more than 200 miles north of Mexico city.
The actual history of North America makes “Mexicans” no more “native” to the lands north of the Rio Grand than any other people who either were themselves, or who were brought to the area by, European settlers.
Trade routes, trade alliances, and language roots in common, across western North America, going back 1,000s of years, do not make the Aztecs and Mixtecs themselves, any more “native” to the areas north of the Rio Grande than were the celtic speakers of Ireland “native” to the lands of other celtic speakers in Europe.
The U.S. got rid of one form of European colonialism when it defeated Britain. Accepting the myth that “hispanic speaker” equals “native” American is nothing other than accepting an additional colonialism from a former colony of Spain as the equivalent of “native” to the territory of the United States. It’s not.
Except that even the liberal crowd says that “native peoples” didn’t just spring from the earth where they lived. They weren’t really “native”. And, OBTW, they killed each other off and enslaved each other whenever possible.
***The crulest,greediest, people that ever existed.***
They learned from the best. The MOORS. You had to be bad to kick them back into Africa.
“Id change your Spanish pen name if I were you. The crulest,greediest, people that ever existed.”
Good lord, man, what kind of a broadstroke slur is that? Do you even know what his name connotes?
How do you like it when people come at you with some dumbass slur about Native Americans? You know it happens all the time and I do too.
Would you want someone to say, “Gee man I’d change that Injun name you got there, sure save you a lotta trouble if you went white”?
Dont look now but they are back. (in spain and everywhere else)
Your lame post doesn’t deserve a repost. I am no here , I did not say that.
**Dont look now but they are back. (in spain and everywhere else)**
Unfortunately that is true.
You crow about being Indian and ignore Indian flaws which were aplenty and continue to this day
And then indulge in your own bigotry
What makes you any better than that you despise
Indians....i have Indian blood...a hair.....my wife....much more so
But fact is Indians are simple victims of history and geography
Nothing more...tragic yes in many ways but that has been a facet of the human condition since recorded history 6000 years
Indians have no monopoly on it, we all come from someone somewhere who was displace from Gaul to Danelaw to the Benin bight to Narragansett or the Klamath
Human migration and transgression is a universal reality
Your racist post didn’t deserve one either, but I reached out, thinking you might be worth the effort.
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Ward Churchill supported this and used to participate in the Denver Columbus Day protests before they petered out.
The (Red)StarTribune webpage, majority of comments are against the change. My wife, who is usually pretty non-political, was more irate than I was. She wants to move to North Dakota now. I told, it’s not the right time. We’ll know when this state is completely lost, though we’re getting pretty damned close.