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Columbus Meets Indigenous People
Accuracy in Academia ^ | January 25, 2013 | Deborah Lambert

Posted on 01/25/2013 10:07:34 AM PST by Academiadotorg

Poor old Chris Columbus. Generations of schoolchildren were taught to praise his exploits, which – after all – included the discovery of America, according to The College Fix. But lately things have taken an ugly turn—and his reputation has suffered irreparable damage, thanks to a claque of revisionist historians who have slowly but surely knocked him off his pedestal.

The latest blow to Columbus’s heroic status came from Arizona State University, Tempe, which decided to change Columbus Day to Indigenous People Day. The switch was apparently long overdue, since enlightened souls in the city of Berkeley had launched the first such observance in 1992.

However, Roger Clegg of the Center for Equal Opportunity believes this might just be another example of political correctness run wild. “We should be able to celebrate both without denigrating either,” said Clegg, adding that “replacing Columbus Day with Indigenous People Day . . .is a silly anti-Western statement and a celebration of fashionable victimhood.”

Deborah Lambert writes the Squeaky Chalk column for Accuracy in Academia. If you would like to comment on this article, e-mail mal.kline@academia.org.

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TOPICS: Education; Government; History; Society
KEYWORDS: arizonastate; christophercolumbus; columbusday; godsgravesglyphs; keithpickering

1 posted on 01/25/2013 10:07:37 AM PST by Academiadotorg
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To: Academiadotorg

ignore these people. eventually some mafioso is going to get po’d and disappear some of them. i don’t want to be near any of them when that happens.


2 posted on 01/25/2013 10:18:43 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Academiadotorg

Revisionist historians never go out of business.


3 posted on 01/25/2013 10:24:09 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Academiadotorg

What about when the people who crossed the Bering Land bridge met up with people in North America who came here via the north atlantic route?

Or when the many instances of one group/tribe/country running roughshot over another for say like the last 10,000 years.....

Boo Frickin’ Hoo...


4 posted on 01/25/2013 10:25:53 AM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG
Or when the many instances of one group/tribe/country running roughshot over another for say like the last 10,000 years.....

You mean, like the Aztecs and the ritual slaughter of their neighbors?

5 posted on 01/25/2013 10:29:24 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: IYAS9YAS
LOL, I read just about everything that comes up here having to do with American Indians and there are always a few that bring up the fact that tribe killing tribe thing. Never occurred to them that every nation , tribe , etc in the world did the same thing so to use that as an excuse for Columbus capturing and enslaving the Caribs using them as a work force until they were practically extinct and then bringing in black slaves from Africa to replace them is so lame. Why can't you just face reality and say , yes, there was horrible things done with the invasion of the Americas?
6 posted on 01/25/2013 10:42:17 AM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: Academiadotorg

I invite them all to turn over their homes, jobs, and possessions to “indigenous peoples” and return to the countries of their ancestors. It’s easy to criticize what happened 500 years ago but hold yourself as entitled.


7 posted on 01/25/2013 10:46:28 AM PST by informavoracious (God help us.)
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To: fish hawk

***”... enslaving the Caribs using them as a work force until they were practically extinct and then bringing in black slaves from Africa to replace them is so lame.***

Especially since the Caribs were chowing down on the Arawak tribes at the time. The Arawaks were almost extinct when Colombus landed.

Colombus’ men raided a Carib camp where they found pregnant Arawak women in cages. The reason was Caribs had a sweet tooth for fresh born cooked Arawak baby flesh.

Bernal Diaz De Castillo wrote that Montezuma often consumed the flesh of sacrificed children. Bernal was unsure if the Spaniards had eaten human flesh in the foods the Aztecs gave them.


8 posted on 01/25/2013 11:11:36 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Academiadotorg; All
Columbus Come Lately not only did not ‘discover’ America - He knew before hand that North and South America were there - had maps on it. (He was married into the family that included the famous cartographer family, the Zeno brothers, and their famous maps.)

Columbus planned on sailing BETWEEN the two continents to reach The Indies on the backside. He didn't know CENTRAL America was in between.

Not only were the Vikings in Greenland 500 years before Columbus sailed, but they explored the eastern shores of North America, had a winter camp on the south shore of the Cape Cod and tried to set up a colony up the Hudson River. A wicked cold winter there changed their minds.

Then, in 1398, a hundred years before Columbus sailed, Prince Henry Sinclair of Scotland sailed to Nova Scotia (he had a fleet of ships larger than the King of Scotland) with the Zeno brothers of Genoa - map makers...remember that name?

There's also evidence that Sinclair explored the eastern seaboard.

It's also documented history that Columbus was brought back to Spain in chains, from his 3rd voyage to the New World, per orders of the Queen because of his genocide of the Natives - and his plans to establish HIMSELF, over the Queen, as the ruler in the new land.

There's a plethora of history on all of this - and Columbus himself never claimed to have discovered a whole new world.

the myth still taught in schools is swallowed hook, line and anchor by most, who never question what's they’re told in school...much like the still prevailing notion that the Pilgrims dressed in black and white and didn't drink ‘spirits’ or sing and dance. ALL untrue. They clumped them in with the Puritans of Boston Bay Colony - arch enemies and up-tight control freaks. The truth has been available for decades, but the myth continues. and the swallowing continues.

Good little sheep.

(I was going to post links but you all have access to the net. Too lazy to do your own research? Open wide...

9 posted on 01/25/2013 11:15:21 AM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Academiadotorg

The Spanish arriving in the new world was the equivalent of the Allies liberating the nazi death camps. The eradication of the Aztec death cults was something that should be celebrated.
As someone else said, everyone around them lived under some form of slavery and routine mass murder at their hands.


10 posted on 01/25/2013 11:20:49 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: maine-iac7

“Columbus was brought back to Spain in chains, from his 3rd voyage to the New World, per orders of the Queen because of his genocide of the Natives - and his plans to establish HIMSELF, over the Queen, as the ruler in the new land.”

LOL,, like the queen gave a rats azz about the treatment of the natives. She had one and only one worry, the available gold, and would she lose out to him becoming a leader there. After all you know, God himself put the queen into her position.


11 posted on 01/25/2013 11:27:12 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Had the aborigenes the technology and potical unity they would have been the invaders. But they didn’t.


12 posted on 01/25/2013 11:39:52 AM PST by onedoug
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To: fish hawk
Never occurred to them that every nation , tribe , etc in the world did the same thing so to use that as an excuse for Columbus capturing and enslaving the Caribs using them as a work force until they were practically extinct and then bringing in black slaves from Africa to replace them is so lame. Why can't you just face reality and say , yes, there was horrible things done with the invasion of the Americas?

Did I say it was an excuse? No. I brought it up as an example of hypocrisy.

I'm fully aware of the atrocities humans have committed against other humans throughout time. Unfortunately, today, it's only "The White Man" who is blamed for all the bad in the world. As if nothing ever happened in any other culture, anywhere else, at any other time.

13 posted on 01/25/2013 11:48:05 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Academiadotorg

note to idiot academics - “native” Mexicans are not “native” to the lands north of the Rio Grande;

they are part of the Spanish colonial society that followed Spain’s conquests in the Americas, as well as the caudillo society down in Mexico that followed the local (Mexican born Spaniards) revolt and independence from Spain.

Until the “Spanish” and the later evolving “Hispanic” period of Mexico, the natives of Mexico found in the Aztec empire, dominated by the Mixtec’s, never had their own towns, villages, cities or settlements much more than 200 miles north of Mexico city.

The actual history of North America makes “Mexicans” no more “native” to the lands north of the Rio Grand than any other people who either were themselves, or who were brought to the area by, European settlers.

Trade routes, trade alliances, and language roots in common, across western North America, going back 1,000s of years, do not make the Aztecs and Mixtecs themselves, any more “native” to the areas north of the Rio Grande than were the celtic speakers of Ireland “native” to the lands of other celtic speakers in Europe.

The U.S. got rid of one form of European colonialism when it defeated Britain. Accepting the myth that “hispanic speaker” equals “native” American is nothing other than accepting an additional colonialism from a former colony of Spain as the equivalent of “native” to the territory of the United States. It’s not.


14 posted on 01/25/2013 1:06:24 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Academiadotorg

Except that even the liberal crowd says that “native peoples” didn’t just spring from the earth where they lived. They weren’t really “native”. And, OBTW, they killed each other off and enslaved each other whenever possible.


15 posted on 01/25/2013 1:11:38 PM PST by Pecos (If more sane people carried guns, fewer crazies would get off a second shot.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I’d change your Spanish pen name if I were you. The crulest,greediest, people that ever existed. I read once that they were responsible for around 70 million souls in the N. and S. American continents.
16 posted on 01/25/2013 6:07:28 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: fish hawk

***The crulest,greediest, people that ever existed.***

They learned from the best. The MOORS. You had to be bad to kick them back into Africa.


17 posted on 01/25/2013 6:55:56 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: fish hawk; Ruy Dias de Bivar

“I’d change your Spanish pen name if I were you. The crulest,greediest, people that ever existed.”

Good lord, man, what kind of a broadstroke slur is that? Do you even know what his name connotes?

How do you like it when people come at you with some dumbass slur about Native Americans? You know it happens all the time and I do too.

Would you want someone to say, “Gee man I’d change that Injun name you got there, sure save you a lotta trouble if you went white”?


18 posted on 01/25/2013 7:28:55 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Dont look now but they are back. (in spain and everywhere else)


19 posted on 01/25/2013 9:09:08 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Your lame post doesn’t deserve a repost. I am no here , I did not say that.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 9:11:06 PM PST by fish hawk (no tyrant can remain in power without the consent and cooperation of his victims.)
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To: fish hawk

**Dont look now but they are back. (in spain and everywhere else)**

Unfortunately that is true.


21 posted on 01/25/2013 10:49:24 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Academiadotorg

22 posted on 01/25/2013 11:01:45 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: fish hawk

You know

You crow about being Indian and ignore Indian flaws which were aplenty and continue to this day

And then indulge in your own bigotry

What makes you any better than that you despise

Indians....i have Indian blood...a hair.....my wife....much more so

But fact is Indians are simple victims of history and geography

Nothing more...tragic yes in many ways but that has been a facet of the human condition since recorded history 6000 years

Indians have no monopoly on it, we all come from someone somewhere who was displace from Gaul to Danelaw to the Benin bight to Narragansett or the Klamath

Human migration and transgression is a universal reality


23 posted on 01/25/2013 11:19:23 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: fish hawk

Your racist post didn’t deserve one either, but I reached out, thinking you might be worth the effort.


24 posted on 01/26/2013 6:20:17 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Academiadotorg

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Academiadotorg.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


25 posted on 02/03/2013 11:09:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: JoeProBono; SunkenCiv

Ward Churchill supported this and used to participate in the Denver Columbus Day protests before they petered out.


26 posted on 02/05/2013 3:56:32 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Academiadotorg

The (Red)StarTribune webpage, majority of comments are against the change. My wife, who is usually pretty non-political, was more irate than I was. She wants to move to North Dakota now. I told, it’s not the right time. We’ll know when this state is completely lost, though we’re getting pretty damned close.


28 posted on 04/25/2014 5:25:08 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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