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Will You Submit & Obey? (Guns)
SHTF Plan ^ | 1-27-2013 | Eric Peters

Posted on 01/27/2013 3:02:17 PM PST by blam

Will You Submit & Obey?

Eric Peters
January 27th, 2013

In New York, we have a prequel of what’s to come – the repeal of the Second Amendment and summary criminalization of peaceful citizens merely for possessing the means of self-defense, even in their own homes. As in Great Britain, citizens of NY face prison if they use proscribed weapons against murderous thugs – even in their own homes. The tyrants Michael Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo have made their decision. Now New Yorkers will have to make theirs. And so will the rest of us – if, as seems likely, the federal tyrants succeed in issuing a New York-style fatwa that applies to the rest of the country. Which brings us to the question:

What will you do?

It is a very hard question. Perhaps the hardest question Americans have had to face since 1861. As then, there may be no peaceful way to preserve our rights. There may be blood. As then, one side is absolutely determined to impose its will at bayonet-point. To murder us in the thousands – perhaps millions, this time - if we refuse to submit. There is no reasoning, no discussing. What we face is violence against our persons by people who absolutely will not leave us in peace – no matter how peaceful we try to be – until we have submitted to them utterly and for all time to come. We wish only to be left alone – and demand that our right to defend ourselves against those who will not leave us alone be respected. That self-defense is the most basic of rights – a right conceded even to the lowest animal. They do not acknowledge our rights; they despise the very notion of us having any rights at all. They regard their power over us as limitless in principle – and rage at even the smallest assertion of freedom of action. They loathe our guns because our ownership of guns is an expression of our determination to defend our very lives – and thus, of self-ownership.

And that is what cannot be tolerated. Which is why the current bum-rush to disarm us has become absolutely frantic. The moment is at hand. We will either stand up and be reckoned with as free men – or we will sit down forever and accept any degradation, any humiliation. And in that case, we shall have proved worthy of such treatment. Future generations will look upon us with the same mixture of incomprehension and contempt that our generation looked upon those who meekly lined up naked in queue for their turn at the edge of the pit. Because it will come to that, in time.

For decades, in a slow and incremental way, they have progressively increased their claims on us. On the most intimate details of our private lives. On our literal bodies and those of our children. We no longer enjoy even the vestigial liberty of being free in our own homes. They are everywhere. They recognize no limits, no boundary beyond which they may not assert themselves over us. They read and record our conversations. They demand to know the minutia of our finances. They tell us with whom we must do business – and under what conditions. They lay claim to an unlimited amount of our income. They deny us even the prospect of real ownership of anything more than the clothes on our backs. They assert their “right” – that is, their unchecked power to do us violence – for any and no reason at all, beyond the reason that they have power and we do not. We are on the cusp now of literal, physical enslavement. Of being owned – because we are about to be rendered utterly defenseless.

Legally rendered defenseless.

If that is not just cause for resistance, then there is no cause for resisting anything, ever. Which is exactly the point being insisted upon: That we have no right to resist, because we have no rights. It is our role to Submit and Obey. Immediately, quietly. To anything and everything they tell us to do. To complacently accept as natural and right that our lives are the playthings of others – who may do with us as they please. That our lives do not matter. Because we do not own our lives.

Our lives are owned by them.

If we lose this battle, then we have already lost the war. The rest will be a mopping up operation. Having taken away not merely our guns but succeeded in intellectually defrocking us of the principle of self-defense and self-ownership that possessing arms affirms, it will be a very small thing indeed to take away much else besides.To take away anything – perhaps everything. Why not? We have already surrendered – and thus, already accepted the idea that nothing is off limits, that whatever small measure of vestigial liberty we may still possess is not actually possessed but merely tolerated . . . for the moment. And may be taken from us at any time, at their whim.

A defenseless man should expect no mercy. And a man unwilling to defend himself – and his fellow men – against tyranny deservesnone.

Michael Bloomberg and Andrew Cuomo have made their decision. Diane Feinstein and Barack Obama will soon make theirs.

Then it will be our turn.

I have already made mine. It is the same decision made by Joshua Boston (USMC):

“I will not register my weapons…

“I am not your subject…

“I am not your peasant… .”

I am not a “tough guy.” I am not looking for a fight. Rather, I desperately wish to avoid one. I’m a middle-aged American just trying to live my life, work, enjoy my pastimes and my friends and family. To be an American. A free American. I dearly value my life. Which is precisely why, if I am backed into a corner by those who refuse to leave me be – even though I harm none – then I will turn and fight. God help me.

God help us all.


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1 posted on 01/27/2013 3:02:26 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
The Resistance Begins: New York Gun Owners Refuse to Register; “Largest Act of Civil Disobedience in State History”


2 posted on 01/27/2013 3:05:38 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
First, I would NOT project my intentions on a public domain where “Freddy” can read and then heed from good Americans who have had it with this out of control government!

Eight Deuce on the loose!

3 posted on 01/27/2013 3:08:28 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: blam

If I were an American, I’d probably have a clue of sacrifice pieces to give up, when they come to collect, but the rest would be hidden and forgotten about.


4 posted on 01/27/2013 3:09:06 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: blam
No I will Not give up any part of my 2nd Amendment Rights.

Hier stehe ich. Ich kann nicht anders. Gott helfe mir. Amen
Here I stand. I cannot do otherwise. God hep me. Amen

In matters of style, swim with the current;
In matters of principle, stand like a rock. Thomas Jefferson

MOLON LABE

5 posted on 01/27/2013 3:09:47 PM PST by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416)
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To: Jonty30

My auto correct turned the word couple into clue.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 3:11:06 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: blam

No f’ing way. Never. No possible compliance. If I have to I’ll buyr sewer pipe full of guns and ammo.


7 posted on 01/27/2013 3:11:12 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: blam

8 posted on 01/27/2013 3:13:02 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: blam

“From my Cold Dead Hands!”


9 posted on 01/27/2013 3:19:08 PM PST by Bibman (Tea Party since 1976)
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To: blam

Most people miss the point by far.

It’s not a question of whether you will comply.
It’s that you won’t have anything to comply - or not - over.

The goal is not outright confiscation.
The goal is systemic destruction of the arms industry.
You won’t be able to get anything new, and private transfers will be few.

Current legal guns will be exempt. The Left won’t care much who has them (finding any excuse to confiscate will of course delight them, but they know that’s not a winning plan).

We need to equate future disarmament via denial to active confiscation now. Sure I will be allowed to keep my AR15 now ... but what of acquiring two more as my kids come of age and, as responsible citizens, need their own? The Left’s goal is disarming the future thru attrition/siege.


10 posted on 01/27/2013 3:19:50 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: ctdonath2

They will try and they will fail.


11 posted on 01/27/2013 3:24:26 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: blam

KMA Frankenfienstein...


12 posted on 01/27/2013 3:27:25 PM PST by 1217Chic
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To: blam

13 posted on 01/27/2013 3:31:02 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends






FReeper Patriots, your Contributions make all the difference!
Please keep ‘em coming! Thank you all very much!

14 posted on 01/27/2013 3:33:44 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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15 posted on 01/27/2013 3:34:37 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: blam
Like the English Bowman used to shout to the French before they in mass released a massive volley of arrow shafts fired for plunging fire “Pluck Yew!!!”
16 posted on 01/27/2013 3:35:11 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: blam

Live Free or Die.


17 posted on 01/27/2013 3:35:58 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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18 posted on 01/27/2013 3:37:54 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

I think Abrams’ use of that propaganda to end Fringe was prescient.


19 posted on 01/27/2013 3:38:49 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: blam
It is a very hard question. No it isn't. My guns will NEVER be handed in peace. Watch the trees johnny, watch the trees.
20 posted on 01/27/2013 3:40:49 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: blam

“Will You Submit & Obey?”

Negative to both.


21 posted on 01/27/2013 4:09:07 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: blam

I don’t have any guns. I would never allow guns in my house. Guns are bad.


22 posted on 01/27/2013 4:12:29 PM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: blam
As a HYPOTHETICAL exercise, it would be amusing to kidnap David Gregory, Michael Bloomberg, or Andy Cuomo (assuming you could find them when they're not protected by armed guards), take them to one of the "fun" areas of New York or DC, handcuff them to a lamp post, hand them an AR 15 and a single 10 round magazine, yell something hostile to get the neighbors' attention, and drive off.

Then circle back in an hour to see how they fared, and whether their attitudes had changed. Just as a hypothetical exercise.

23 posted on 01/27/2013 4:19:11 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: blam

“...we will have to pass this legislation to find out what is in it...”
.......uhhh, make that ‘to find out how they will react’.


24 posted on 01/27/2013 4:29:58 PM PST by STYRO (War sucks. Living in slavery sucks even worse.)
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To: AppyPappy

Don’t EVER deny that you own guns to anyone. Don’t advertise that you own them, but certainly do NOT deny it.


25 posted on 01/27/2013 4:30:54 PM PST by KingLudd
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To: rarestia

I loved it.
That actress who played Etta was perfectly cast. The worlds created in Fringe - - both the alternate universe and the future world - - were masterpieces of imagery.


26 posted on 01/27/2013 4:31:50 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: STYRO

Almost time to dig them up ,,, John has a long mustache.


27 posted on 01/27/2013 4:43:47 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: AppyPappy

Lol.


28 posted on 01/27/2013 4:45:18 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: blam

Thinking about this if they did start killing people the world economy will collapse. Then again, that’s probably what obama wants. Then the “12th” guy will show up.


29 posted on 01/27/2013 4:45:42 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: KingLudd; AppyPappy
Don’t EVER deny that you own guns to anyone.

In one Seinfeld episode, Elaine walked into "Crazy" Joe Davola's apartment and noticed a "shrine" of photographs on the wall, all photos of her that had been taken with a telephoto lens. "Crazy" Joe then startled Elaine when he came up behind her after emerging from his dark room. The obviously flummoxed Elaine stuttered that she had walked in because, "your door was open". To which "Crazy" Joe Davola replied, softly and with a smile, "I like to encourage intruders."


30 posted on 01/27/2013 4:54:46 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: KingLudd

Guys,
I am sure none of us knows What’s ahead.
Fast and Furious
Benghazi
Ft.Hood...
it’s obvious,They don’t either.


31 posted on 01/27/2013 4:56:38 PM PST by Big Red Badger
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To: KingLudd

Guys,
I am sure none of us knows What’s ahead.
Fast and Furious
Benghazi
Ft.Hood...
it’s obvious,They don’t either.


32 posted on 01/27/2013 4:57:03 PM PST by Big Red Badger
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To: blam

We have reached the point that all we have left to lose is our freedom from tyranny.

They have taken our healthcare and subjected us to rationing. Now they want to take away your RKBA, so what do you have left other than to give them your paycheck too?

How is that an America worth living in?


33 posted on 01/27/2013 5:03:00 PM PST by dforest
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To: blam

It is so obvious.

When you run across one of these anti-gunners ask a couple of simple questions.

1. You make guns (or certain guns) illegal.
2. You tell their owners to turn them in (effectively taking the owners’ property worth hundreds or thousands of dollars for nothing).
3. The owners refuse.
4. How do you get those guns out of the hands of the owners?
5. Will you send in government agents to kill the resisters and take their property?
6. Will you inform on friends, neighbors, and family so that government agents can raid their homes, steal their property, and murder them?
7. Do you not think there will be blowback on the people who inform or support the theft, incarceration, and murder of their fellow Americans?
8. If you hate guns so much, why outsource to the government? Don’t you have the guts to do your own ‘wet work’?


34 posted on 01/28/2013 2:51:34 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Lancey Howard

Abrams has brought sci-fi back to Earth by making it more relative and relevant. I loved that the future world was grounded in reality with things like Hummers, handguns (albeit “future-ized”), and old-school beater cars. The sci-fi aspect of the show was just advanced enough to be believable without being so far-fetched as to require several logical iterations of advancements.

I’m very excited that Abrams is writing/directing the new Star Wars. I’m really interested to see where he goes with it.


35 posted on 01/28/2013 6:25:41 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: blam
"It is a very hard question."

No it isn't. It is quite a simple and easily answered question.

No, I will not comply. No one I know will comply.

Our response is as relevant today as it was in 480 BC:

μολὼν λαβέ

molṑn labé

MOLON LABE!

36 posted on 01/29/2013 6:04:23 AM PST by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: blam
I am not looking for a fight. Rather, I desperately wish to avoid one.

Me too.

But if it must be, we will have to fight asymmetrically.

5.56mm

37 posted on 01/29/2013 6:14:37 AM PST by M Kehoe
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