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Why is government stockpiling guns, ammo?
WND ^ | Feb 3, 2013 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 02/04/2013 5:17:18 AM PST by KeyLargo

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Why is government stockpiling guns, ammo?

Exclusive: Joseph Farah examines Obama's plan for 'civilian national security force' Published: 17 hours ago

Is the U.S. government getting ready for a war we don’t know about?

And, if that’s why Washington is stockpiling massive amounts of ammunition (hollow points, by the way), why is Homeland Security doing the buying instead of the Defense Department?

I have some theories.

Many of you will remember a story I broke a long time ago – about presidential candidate Barack Obama’s little-noticed announcement that, if elected in 2008, he wanted to create a “civilian national security force” as big, as strong and as well-funded as the Defense Department.

Here’s what he actually said at a campaign stop in Colorado July 2, 2008: “We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

Want to make sure you and your family are fully protected? Check out our self-defense section in WND’s Superstore.

Could what we see happening now in the Department of Homeland Security be the beginning of Obama’s dream and our constitutional nightmare?

We’ve learned more about Obama’s vision since then. Maybe it’s time for a review:

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: ammunition; banglist; cnsf; cw2; cwiiping; democrats; dhs; dontshootatme; donttreadonme; govtabuse; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment; shtf; statesrights; styg; teaparty; tyranny; waronliberty

Joseph Farah is founder, editor and CEO of WND and a nationally syndicated columnist with Creators Syndicate. He is the author or co-author of 13 books, including his latest, "The Tea Party Manifesto," and his classic, "Taking America Back," now in its third edition and 14th printing. Farah is the former editor of the legendary Sacramento Union and other major-market dailies.

1 posted on 02/04/2013 5:17:21 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2985045/posts


2 posted on 02/04/2013 5:18:23 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: KeyLargo

Gun owners, law enforcement face ammunition shortage

Posted on: 2:33 pm, January 30, 2013, by Megan Noe

http://wqad.com/2013/01/30/gun-owners-face-ammunition-shortage/

Ammo shortage, high prices frustrate gun owners

http://www.wdrb.com/global/story.asp?s=11292747


3 posted on 02/04/2013 5:32:06 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: humblegunner

Massad Ayoob wrote about the coming ammo shortage last year, but he has a different view on the reason, which may be the case.

GUN AND AMMO SHORTAGE COMING?
Friday, April 6th, 2012

“Much has been made of Homeland Security’s recent contract with ATK for 450 million rounds of Federal HST 180 grain hollow point ammo, caliber .40 Smith & Wesson. I don’t see that as a harbinger of martial law and civil war as some do. Being in law enforcement myself, I’ve seen the severe shortages that have plagued even police agencies in the last several years. The contract is for up to all those millions of cartridges, and may mean nothing more malignant than that a huge government agency wants a contractual guarantee that they’ll be able to get enough to train and qualify their people, even if their actual deliveries never come close to the top level to which that contract holds the manufacturer.”

http://backwoodshome.com/blogs/MassadAyoob/2012/04/06/gun-and-ammo-shortage-coming/


4 posted on 02/04/2013 5:40:09 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
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5 posted on 02/04/2013 5:46:34 AM PST by CMailBag
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To: CMailBag

Interesting.

Source says government ammo purchase story a disinformation campaign

Guns and Ammunition
August 25, 2012
By: Anthony Martin

New information has been received indicating that the widely circulated story concerning a massive ammunition purchase by various civilian agencies of the federal government is part of a disinformation campaign designed to “smoke out” citizens who fear that the government is gearing up for a confrontation with the public.

Snip...

But why would the U.S. government wish to create false purchase orders for ammo and then roll out a news story indicating that it had bought 1.2 billion rounds of hollow point bullets?

If the information provided by the source is correct, the answer could be that the exercise was implemented to see how such a story would play out among the general populace, particularly among those who are considered “government watchdogs.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/source-says-government-ammo-purchase-story-a-disinformation-campaign


6 posted on 02/04/2013 5:57:44 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...

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7 posted on 02/04/2013 6:47:55 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KeyLargo; Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ...

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8 posted on 02/04/2013 6:48:48 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
QUESTION: HOW MANY GUNS PROTECT THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF?

When I was active duty, there was a minimum of about 30 guns around the POTUS, established in 3 "rings of security".
Senators and Congressmen in active service were assigned a minimum of 2 guns (men) each, and, when retired were assigned one each.
They carried large magazines of ammo and a minimum of 3 magazines each.

So how many gun that the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF wants to outlaw, along with the magazines he wants to outlaw, does he have protecting him every day?

The United States Citizens KNOW that they're going to have to fight TYRANTS in their own government.
You cannot protect life, without the ability to take life.

While you are WAITING for the police to respond, someone could be losing their life.
All people of a responsible age should be armed.

As EternalVigilance reminded us:

Click here to read the 12 page pamphlet.


Let us NEVER FORGET THAT !

9 posted on 02/04/2013 6:51:40 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: KeyLargo

” Source says government ammo purchase story a disinformation campaign”

That has been my thought for a long time.
They desperately want another Waco or Ruby Ridge or worse.


10 posted on 02/04/2013 7:21:28 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: KeyLargo
Ammo shortage, high prices frustrate gun owners

Although they don't put a date on this article, it reads as though we just finished the 2008 election?
11 posted on 02/04/2013 7:24:48 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: KeyLargo
But why would the U.S. government wish to create false purchase orders for ammo and then roll out a news story indicating that it had bought 1.2 billion rounds of hollow point bullets?

False purchase orders? I think not. However, it may be that someone is deliberately utilizing the IDIQ contract template (a recent innovation discussed in government contracting publications) for ammunition, because they know that it will spark these very discussions.

On the other hand, we have Hanlon's Razor (Never attribute to malice that which can be adeqauately explained by stupidity).

12 posted on 02/04/2013 7:30:12 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: KeyLargo

Check Russian history. Paying particular attention to the time frame from 1917 to1940.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 7:39:37 AM PST by sport
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To: Travis McGee
Tweeted to my followers....
14 posted on 02/04/2013 7:52:00 AM PST by haywoodwebb (Keep your focus on the TRUTH and we will prevail . . . One Day at a Time, Mates!)
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To: Yosemitest; All

Thanks for posting Sam Adams writings there...

I never cease to be amazed at such wisdom, and courage for that matter from this guy...

His phylosophy is almost identical to mine, and the only difference is that I feel I am no where near the intelligence level, or as wise as he ever was in his day...

Going back and looking at the original writings and seeing how they morphed into some of the content in our founding documents is just plain amazing, and should be plastered upon our reflections to this very day...

Something seriously lacking in our current crop of elected officials...

Every situation we encounter today is taken care of by the procedures and templates outlined in our Constitution and its Bill of Rights, and that through careful deliberation can be resolved by those ancient principles and procedures...

Trying to say that the original documents and procedures are not applicable to today’s issues is ASSININE and irresponsible!!!

Citizens today have lost their ability to apply courage and most important virtue to todays issues, and it has been replaced by lazyness, and “What’s in it for me?” mentalities...

How can we realistically expect to get that kind of virtue and courage from todays representatives at all levels of our political system???

Defending our Natural Rights is becoming passe’ and not socialble with some in this country, and a fight is coming real soon...And those we expect to fight for us are as much of the problem, and the problems we face...

When the people “really” and “truely” understand how much they have lost by allowing the government to infringe upon our basic, fundamental, unalienable rights to a “free state” of existance in this country, maybe then we’ll have the blessings from God we deserve...

At this point, we are truely doomed to repeating history, and becoming a big footnote to it...


15 posted on 02/04/2013 8:13:46 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64
The United States Citizens KNOW that they're going to have to fight TYRANTS in their own government.
You cannot protect life, without the ability to take life.

While you are WAITING for the police to respond, someone could be losing their life.
All people of a responsible age should be armed.


Let us NEVER FORGET THAT !

Let's subjugate them to OUR end game, DUST!
"COMPROMISE" is a DIRTY word!
People who study the Bible know that COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.


It's time to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.

I read a great article by Sheriff Jim R. Schwiesow, Ret. written February 4, 2011 from "NewsWithViews.com" and here's part of it.
Read Compromise Is a Dirty Word for Club for Growth.

Take a good long look at where "Establishment Republicans" ALWAYS take us.




The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn from the Swiss and implement their "gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!
These laws are the ones we should shove into the "2nd Amendment Haters" faces.

The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Let's adopt THEIR LAWS !

Remember: Read Second Amendment: It’s Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .
16 posted on 02/04/2013 8:30:23 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Travis McGee

17 posted on 02/04/2013 9:09:06 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: KeyLargo; Travis McGee; Squantos; wardaddy; Criminal Number 18F; Godzilla; Joe Brower; All
Interesting. IF Mas said that, then IMHO, he's being a little naive and more than a little ignorant. The order is for JHP ammo, not FMJ "Ball" ammo which is indeed a training round and costs a lot less than the JHP ammo. I shoot ball ammo at the range and for my IDPA matches .... But I load my primary and spare "carry" magazines with JHP ammo in case of a violent confrontation that I have no desire to make but will win if I must engage.
18 posted on 02/04/2013 10:04:15 AM PST by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: EdReform

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19 posted on 02/04/2013 10:32:12 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Yosemitest

BTTT


20 posted on 02/04/2013 10:33:37 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: EdReform

Bump and self ping...


21 posted on 02/04/2013 10:55:50 AM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: Travis McGee; KeyLargo; MestaMachine; thouworm; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; Godzilla; ...

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Why is (The United States) government stockpiling guns, ammo?

Article, and # 8 .

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22 posted on 02/04/2013 11:26:22 AM PST by LucyT (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: KeyLargo
Why on earth does Fedzilla need such a huge amount of Patriot-Ki..., er, I mean,... Cop-Killer bullets?
23 posted on 02/04/2013 11:29:13 AM PST by Gritty (The purpose of the Constitution is to insulate personal freedom from the lust for power-A.Napolitano)
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To: Yosemitest

Thanks for sharing Yosemitest...

“Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these:

First, a right to life;
Secondly, to liberty;
Thirdly, to property;
together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.

These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation,

commonly called the first law of nature...
In short, it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at the entering into society,
to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights;
when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights;
the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.

If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation.
The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty,

it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift
and voluntarily become a slave.”

— Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists


24 posted on 02/04/2013 12:46:05 PM PST by GOPJ ( Revelation can be more perilous than Revolution. Vladimir Nabokov)
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To: ExSoldier

FLEA’s train with the ammo they carry .... Just saying.

Stay safe !


25 posted on 02/04/2013 2:15:26 PM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: KeyLargo
"Why is government stockpiling guns, ammo?"

Partly because they are afraid. Partly because they intend to finalize the coup.

26 posted on 02/04/2013 6:20:21 PM PST by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: Travis McGee

I’m going to go with “police state”. Just a silly hunch of mine. Why not ? We have red light cameras that track our every movement on our roads. We’re groped mercilessly every time we get on a plane. We’re told how much water our toilets must use. We’re told what kind of light bulbs to use. We now celebrate the 4th of July with DUI checkpoints that aren’t really there to stop drunk drivers, but to combat the “evils” of expired tags......I could go on for forever and a day, couldn’t I ?


27 posted on 02/04/2013 10:15:15 PM PST by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: LucyT

Lucy thanks for the ping!

What’s your take on post #6 in this thread, that the large ammo purchase is a smokescreen to draw out who is “anti-fed”?


28 posted on 02/05/2013 12:37:55 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: KeyLargo

I have been thinking about this for a while, and I think I know how to orchestrate a peaceful preemptive strike.
We don’t need a list of the ammo being bought with our own money.
WE NEED A LIST OF THE TRIGGER PULLERS.
Perhaps a group such as Anonymous can help, or an insider can help, but some how we need a list of every DHS employee with the addresses of their homes, as well as their relatives homes and we need it posted on multiple servers with their GPS coordinates and interactive maps with precise driving directions to their homes. Get it up on multiple sites all at once so it will be archived on as many servers as possible.
Once this information is made known, their loyalties will be tested.
In this way, we can manage a PEACEFUL RESOLUTION BEFORE THE SHTF.
I think it would be the single most effective deterrent to protect our freedom. All of us need to get the word out, through formal requests, through insider whistle blowers to hackers or what have you. We need to execute quickly to nip this thing in the bud.


29 posted on 02/11/2013 7:02:26 AM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Tail gunner Joe was right.)
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