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The New White Negro - What it means that family breakdown is now biracial
Washington Monthly ^ | Jan/Feb 2013 | Isabel Sawhill

Posted on 02/05/2013 8:02:00 AM PST by Sir Napsalot

(The report) .... cited a series of staggering statistics showing high rates of divorce, unwed childbearing, and single motherhood among black families. “The white family has achieved a high degree of stability and is maintaining that stability,” the report said. “By contrast, the family structure of lower class Negroes is highly unstable, and in many urban centers is approaching complete breakdown.”

Nearly fifty years later, the picture is even more grim—and the statistics can no longer be organized neatly by race. In fact, Moynihan’s bracing profile of the collapsing black family in the 1960s looks remarkably similar to a profile of the average white family today. White households have similar—or worse—statistics of divorce, unwed childbearing, and single motherhood as the black households cited by Moynihan in his report. In 2000, the percentage of white children living with a single parent was identical to the percentage of black children living with a single parent in 1960: 22 percent.

(snip) That earthquake has not affected all American families the same way. While the Moynihan report focused on disparities between white and black, increasingly it is class, and not just race, that matters for family structure. Although blacks as a group are still less likely to marry than whites, gaps in family formation patterns by class have increased for both races, with the sharpest declines in marriage rates occurring among the least educated of both races. .....

These differences in family formation are a problem not only for those concerned with “family values” per se, but also for those concerned with upward mobility in a society that values equal opportunity for its children. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonmonthly.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: blackfamily; trends; welfarestate
(More excerpt) Because the breakdown of the traditional family is overwhelmingly occurring among working-class Americans of all races, these trends threaten to make the U.S. a much more class-based society over time. The well-educated and upper-middle-class parents who are still forming two-parent families are able to invest time and resources in their children—time and resources that lower- and working-class single mothers, however impressive their efforts to be both good parents and good breadwinners, simply do not have.

[Note: Long article, worth reading the whole. - by s.n.]

1 posted on 02/05/2013 8:02:04 AM PST by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

Original article name: “The New White Negro”


2 posted on 02/05/2013 8:05:14 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Attended my RCIA class last night (I’m a team member but learning more than I can share) and the class was given by this wonderful couple who spoke about various Catholic beliefs regarding sexuality and marriage. After listening I would say it all boils down to the evil of contraception. NFP is so specific now that it has 98% accuracy and instead of using artificial chemicals and devices, it requires the couple to intentionally choose each time that they desire sex whether they want to have a child. The wife, when asked why it was that it seems that NFP couples do have more children, she said it was because the love and joy was so great in the relationship that they were so prolife and probaby that they had more children. She said that each of their four children were intentional. She also said that chemical contraception was actually a type of abortion since among other things, it renders the womb less receptive to implantation so that even if an egg slips by and is fertilized, it can implant or it does so imperfectly and then is miscarried. Just saying. It was interesting. Perhaps I can be more open to this at 64 than I was at 34.


3 posted on 02/05/2013 8:10:42 AM PST by Mercat (Never laugh at live dragons)
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To: Sir Napsalot

>>> It’s clear that black men have been much harder hit by the disappearance of jobs for the less skilled than white men. ... In 2000, only 63 percent of black men with only a high school diploma (compared with 84 percent of white male graduates) were employed. Since the recession, those numbers have fallen even farther. And even black college graduates are not doing quite as well as their white counterparts. <<<

Case in point, Baraq Obama.


4 posted on 02/05/2013 8:21:55 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Our American version of Western Civilization has been under tremendous assault for the last 100 years(Started during Wilson’s time.)For the last 5 years the popular media has glorified the nonwhite. One sees lower class whites mimicking those that are held up to them as “models.” For example, pants so low they show the buttocks, rap music, the baseball cap turned backwards, negro speach patterns etc. Naturly these whites will adopt the mores of the dominant nonwhite culture.


5 posted on 02/05/2013 8:22:23 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Sir Napsalot

It was the hippie/university left that wanted to inflict “free love” and the “sexual revolution” on society, without a care what it would do to the lower middle class and the poor.


6 posted on 02/05/2013 8:24:50 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Gun control is hitting what you aim at. -- Chuck Norris)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Nothing more disgusting than “rap” or “skateboard” culture. I get so sick of seeing these losers standing around with low pants and dirty hair and I mean all races. That said,I never understood why white boys thought it was cool to emulate that lower gangsta life style.


7 posted on 02/05/2013 8:29:07 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Sir Napsalot
>>> Case in point, Baraq Obama.

Oops, I should have made that clear,

Obama = “Equal Opportunity” poster child, completely empty of substance. Not saying all college graduate blacks are like him, but it's enough to case some shadow of a doubt.

Only large corporation/government entities need to maintain their racial ‘equal employment opportunity’ quota, not when you are a small business owner hiring.

8 posted on 02/05/2013 8:31:35 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

The one eyed hypnotist trains them to behave that way


9 posted on 02/05/2013 8:41:56 AM PST by winodog (Thank you Jesus for the calm in my life)
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To: Sir Napsalot

As I have been observing for some time. Exploding numbers of White Trash people who are exhibiting all of the same maladies that have plagued the black community for decades.


10 posted on 02/05/2013 8:44:08 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Resolute Conservative

MEDIA!


11 posted on 02/05/2013 8:44:50 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Resolute Conservative
If they attend a majority-minority public school it is the type of culture they are exposed to the most and the one they are more likely to emulate.
12 posted on 02/05/2013 8:51:32 AM PST by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Although my experiences may not be representative, the young Hispanics I’ve encountered still seem to be very marriage-family oriented. Needless to say, these are not gangbanger types, but are not especially well educated and certainly not well off either.


13 posted on 02/05/2013 8:59:35 AM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Sir Napsalot
increasingly it is class, and not just race, that matters for family structure

No, increasingly (in fact, almost always) it is family structure that matters for "class." Economic security and social mobility are effects of the personal behavior choices that coincide with stable marriage and responsible child-rearing.

14 posted on 02/05/2013 9:02:09 AM PST by Tax-chick (Watch out for spiders.)
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To: Mercat

NFP?


15 posted on 02/05/2013 9:09:12 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I’ve noticed something.

If you’re in the business of persuading people to part with more taxpayer dollars, you can state a fact like “the family structure of lower class Negroes is highly unstable, and in many urban centers is approaching complete breakdown” and get away with it. Might even get praise as a ‘Vocal Advocate.”

If you make the same statement but are not advocating tossing taxpayer dollars at the problem, you are just a racist.

Interesting. Same statement, same fact. But different reaction to the messenger.


16 posted on 02/05/2013 9:09:36 AM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: steve86
True.

Do we have statistics showing these young Hispanics becoming middle-aged middle class, with about the same upwards mobility opportunity as their counter part ‘whites’?

If any research study showed such statistics then politicians can not make their case about ‘racial inequality’ specifically, or ‘class inequality’ in general.

17 posted on 02/05/2013 9:13:10 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Blacks voted for obammy in record numbers.
If it cost em, to hell with em.


18 posted on 02/05/2013 9:40:33 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Chad N. Freud

That’s actually quite a deep statement.


19 posted on 02/05/2013 9:43:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Liberals should be celebrating their success in bringing whitey’s cultural and economic status down into closer quota equality with Blacks in the inner cities.

Working class Americans of all races are up the creek. Pitiful education systems, globalism and immigration for skilled and unskilled labor promises we are looking at a future like every other third world/communist nation. We won’t have a middle class. We will be one big unemployed, on the dole, uneducated, valueless gutter ghetto - in equality.


20 posted on 02/05/2013 9:53:01 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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21 posted on 02/05/2013 9:53:08 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (`)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Read the title and thought it was going to be about Beyonce.


22 posted on 02/05/2013 9:55:24 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I can explain that to you, but you probably will not agree.

White boys in school emulate the blacks because the white girls in school passing out the poon,think the black boys are cool.The white boys want some lovin too so they emulate what the white girls think is cool. Pants down around their ass , hats on backward listening to crappy music played as loud as the eardrums can stand.


23 posted on 02/05/2013 9:59:36 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Sir Napsalot
When he was in High school my godson referred to the white "low achievers" as "wiggers". He's in his 30s now, married w/ three kids, and works a factory job third shift. He is very talented as a graphic artist but his schedule precludes any further training so he's more or less stuck in a dead end job but at least he has a job. What really gets me going is he likes "RAP". Where did I go wrong...

Regards,
GtG

24 posted on 02/05/2013 10:11:53 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

Re: “Rap”

Don’t complain. It’s a generational thing, and leave it like that.


25 posted on 02/05/2013 10:22:22 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Chad N. Freud

Welcome to FR. Thanks for the comment, and very true.


26 posted on 02/05/2013 10:29:53 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I would not bother to criticize minorities as a race, it doesn’t interest me and I don’t think it’s a valid approach.

BUT I am minding my own business, family emigrated here after slavery, lived in the liberal north, suffered our own discrimination .... and somehow, I as a “white” am racist and all the problems of the world and especially blacks are mysteriously somehow my “fault”. And billions of tax dollars have to be given to minorities due to my nonexistent transgression.


27 posted on 02/05/2013 10:31:52 AM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Sir Napsalot

This is why social and fiscal conservatism are joined at the hip.


28 posted on 02/05/2013 10:33:11 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

“Our American version of Western Civilization has been under tremendous assault for the last 100 years (Started during Wilson’s time.) For the last 5 years the popular media has glorified the nonwhite. One sees lower class whites mimicking those that are held up to them as “models.” For example, pants so low they show the buttocks, rap music, the baseball cap turned backwards, negro speach patterns etc. Naturly these whites will adopt the mores of the dominant nonwhite culture.”

You’ve said it as well as anyone could.

I don’t participate in “brown skin worship”. And anyone who wishes that Western Civilization and values be preserved, shouldn’t, either.

Our civilization wasn’t created by “people of color”. Why has it become so dangerous to say as much?


29 posted on 02/05/2013 10:48:45 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: steve86

“Although my experiences may not be representative, the young Hispanics I’ve encountered still seem to be very marriage-family oriented. Needless to say, these are not gangbanger types, but are not especially well educated and certainly not well off either.”

I can accept what you have seen. But having seen as much, how do you expect these young Hispanics to vote (those who are able to vote) come election time?


30 posted on 02/05/2013 10:50:39 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And these people are glorified on various so-called “reality shows” which normalizes these people, like Honey Boo Boo and “Teen Mom” and those other sick shows. This is what a civilization falling apart looks like.


31 posted on 02/05/2013 10:52:11 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Sir Napsalot

Didn’t see any data in (The report) showing how many of them use drugs?.


32 posted on 02/05/2013 10:56:17 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Chad N. Freud

Interesting observation on your part, and have to say it rings true. Minorities and those who’ve grown up in lower socio-economic classes do tend to view the Government as the source of power and wealth, so stating a problem without citing the Government as being the source of the “cure” would ring the racism bell.


33 posted on 02/05/2013 12:26:01 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Road Glide

I don’t discuss politics with them and have never heard any indication they vote at all. But with many fairly recent immigrants, and I’m familiar with quite a few from a different part of the world, the Republican party isn’t really selling anything to attract them (with the exception of family values in certain cases — but they tend to ignore that at voting time). Not small government, gun rights, etc. They pretty much all look to big government to “fix things” (seemingly not realizing gov more often creates the problem, and they all know about corruption) and to “provide things”. They all had experiences in their former countries where government did provide things in their little village — such as infrastructure, better quality housing, medical services — that they never would have had otherwise, and it is understandable how they get the idea of “government as a benevolent provider”. Although some turn into successful entrepreneurs or other producers amazingly rapidly in this country, others never get beyond the “wait for something to be provided” mentality and these go heavily democrat.


34 posted on 02/05/2013 1:52:01 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: Daveinyork

Natural Family Planning


35 posted on 02/05/2013 1:55:48 PM PST by Mercat (Never laugh at live dragons)
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To: Mercat

Planned Parenthood has been trying to deny what you have just surmised for years. It is true that the majority of these drugs render the womb less receptive to implantation. I was amazed to find out that there are also natural causes that induce this same effect sometimes and many females do not even know or realize. I learned all this while studying Todd Akin’s career killing comment on what he understood the research to show. After reading about so called “natural” occurrences, I can’t get the Monty Python sketch out of my mind about how every sperm is sacred.


36 posted on 02/05/2013 4:12:57 PM PST by Herbster
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To: Joe Boucher

make food stamps and welfare only get fruit and veggies, now that is what the GOP should be calling out this handout first so called lady.

she wants thin people then stop the crap food on welfare.

Lets see these welfare bums then come out to vote again.


37 posted on 02/05/2013 5:43:30 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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