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Obama building a personal army at the Department of Homeland Security
Coach is Right ^ | 2/7/13 | Doug Book

Posted on 02/07/2013 9:35:51 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

In July of 2008, presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama stated that Americans could no longer “…continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” (1)

It was 4 months before the election yet no one in the “mainstream” media seemed interested in asking a presidential candidate about his promise to create a “civilian security force” with a $440 billion annual budget! What, exactly, would it do? Who would be in charge? Where would a force the size of the U.S. Military be housed? Would its members...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: barackobama; dhs; ice; whitehouse
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1 posted on 02/07/2013 9:36:02 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax
If DHS becomes a personal army of the President, contrary to the office as described by the Constitution of the United States, Would this not make them traitors to the Union and complicit with the attempt to overthrow the government as defined?

This is a serious, life and death question.

2 posted on 02/07/2013 9:39:07 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Plus, he can always call out the TSA in case he needs anyone groped-to-death


3 posted on 02/07/2013 9:40:29 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Oldpuppymax

Following the strategy set by Hugo Chavez in Venezuela


4 posted on 02/07/2013 9:42:48 AM PST by rdcbn
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To: Oldpuppymax
If Kevin Collins is so smart, why does he spell the possessive form of his name "Collin's?"


5 posted on 02/07/2013 9:43:28 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The dork must seriously want CW-II because this indeed will start it.

The bat-eared-b*stard will indeed start a fire that he cannot put out.


6 posted on 02/07/2013 9:43:33 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: bigbob

Plus, he can always call out the TSA in case he needs anyone groped-to-death”

...and if pedophiles are necessary, he can call out a few choice Senators!


7 posted on 02/07/2013 9:43:53 AM PST by albie (`)
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To: Da Coyote

He’s not starting a fire he can’t put out.

He’s starting a fire he won’t put out.


9 posted on 02/07/2013 9:47:34 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Fire can be so... unpredictable.


10 posted on 02/07/2013 9:51:07 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Oldpuppymax
King Obama and his communists empire is getting ready for complete takeover of America. Don't doubt this. It can happen because most of America is at play and parties and have no idea until the gun is pointed at them. Too late.
11 posted on 02/07/2013 9:51:37 AM PST by Logical me
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To: DuncanWaring

So.....then....I am led to make the assumption that we no longer need the National Guard,...or the Coast Guard.


12 posted on 02/07/2013 9:51:58 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: American in Israel

He must be expecting a serious rebellion, or he’s planning on cracking down on a perceived one. Maybe he’s trying to be the American Caesar.


13 posted on 02/07/2013 9:53:32 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Firearms confiscation is ahead folks.


14 posted on 02/07/2013 9:54:04 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: Oldpuppymax

...and just where is the Republican-led House of Representatives on the funding of that $440B? The House alone should be able (and should) fund such ideas with $0!

HF


15 posted on 02/07/2013 9:56:03 AM PST by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: rovenstinez
So.....then....I am led to make the assumption that we no longer need the National Guard,...or the Coast Guard.

Not so, they will still be needed after all the DHS agents are shot dead by sniper fire.
16 posted on 02/07/2013 9:56:26 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: American in Israel
Ich schwöre bei Gott diesen heiligen Eid, daß ich dem Führer des Deutschen Vereinegen Staten Reiches und Volkes Adolf Hitler Barak Obama, dem Oberbefehlshaber der Wehrmacht, unbedingten Gehorsam leisten und als tapferer Soldat bereit sein will, jederzeit für diesen Eid mein Leben einzusetzen."

Some things never change

17 posted on 02/07/2013 9:56:34 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Oldpuppymax

https://marketplace.fedbid.com/fbweb/fbobuyDetails.do?token===wBKxmaVGYR9Kcq5Ajq%2BRH6QAAAAAHeAAgAgTFCGg/FzzqQbJAAyVXBA0Or

They are buying even more rounds.


18 posted on 02/07/2013 9:58:06 AM PST by Walmartian (I'm their leader. Which way did they go?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Here come the American gulags.


19 posted on 02/07/2013 10:05:15 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: American in Israel

By technical definition, yes.

They would say no.

If we won most certainly yes.

If we lost then no.


20 posted on 02/07/2013 10:07:42 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: DuncanWaring

He’s Lincoln, and all that.
Lincoln let the south fire the first shot on “humanitarian” supply ships, to get public opinion on his side.
O will push and push, until....


21 posted on 02/07/2013 10:08:55 AM PST by bigmak007 (They who can't control their own passions, want to passionately control others.)
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To: bigbob

All those guys are in back rooms watching monitors and petting the old puppy.


22 posted on 02/07/2013 10:11:19 AM PST by Dick Bachert ("Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." T. Jefferson)
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To: American in Israel

This kind of personally loyal army worked well for Juan Peron.

During the period of the “Dirty War”, literally thousands of individuals “disappeared”, some never to return. Apparently there were pro-Communist and anti-Communist factions of the Peronistas, and toward the end of his life, Juan Peron rather sided with the anti-Communist faction. Keep in mind that though they were “anti-Communist”, it made them no less socialistic. The objective was always the same, it was just who was going to be the beneficiaries of the rape of that tormented land.

Only after a near-total internal collapse of the nation, were these parasites and bandits ever run out of the positions of power. Today, there is some small semblance of representative governance in Argentena, but they are still nowhere near what could be called a “free” country. Corruption and bribery are still the order of business at every level, and the authorities that are supposed to enforce the laws have never regained legitimacy in the eyes of the people.


23 posted on 02/07/2013 10:16:35 AM PST by alloysteel (If conspiracy does not exist everywhere, it exists nowhere.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

In addition to the over a billion rounds the DHS has purchases and ordered
we should not forget he has already started building his privare force.

If the purpose of the FEMA “corpse” was only to assist in times of national disasters
and if at least one class of over 200 was graduated last Sept

why didn’t this FEMA Corp assist in the aftermath of Sandy?

and not a single media outlet asked why not


24 posted on 02/07/2013 10:16:50 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: Huskrrrr

Looks like it,national security *objectives*?.


26 posted on 02/07/2013 10:28:02 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Oldpuppymax

Next time some useful idiot liked pierced moron asks: “Why do you need an AR15?”

Just make this is your answer to him. I’ll bet he has NO CLUE that these clowns are stockpiling in a very obscene way. Bet he doesn’t know that even the department of education has a swat team.

Why do they NEED that?

Of course, he’ll refuse delivery, because he’s a stupid, stupid man.


27 posted on 02/07/2013 10:30:59 AM PST by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

aaaaand lets not forget who gave us the wonderful government agency that is The Dept of Homeland Security.


28 posted on 02/07/2013 10:32:41 AM PST by yantis
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To: Oldpuppymax; All

Doesn’t the 2nd Amendment reasonably indicate that the job of “homeland security” belongs to well-regulated state militias?


29 posted on 02/07/2013 10:34:50 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Oldpuppymax

This story needs to stay on the radar. It also needs many of us to ask our Congresscritters to start asking questions.


30 posted on 02/07/2013 10:39:50 AM PST by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: BO Stinkss

“But Obama does not have the loyalty of the military, nor the sheriffs, nor most police departments.”

The Bolsheviks did not have the loyalty of the military, but they won. Don’t underestimate his machine.


31 posted on 02/07/2013 10:39:59 AM PST by spaced
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To: American in Israel

“If DHS becomes a personal army of the President, contrary to the office as described by the Constitution of the United States, Would this not make them traitors to the Union and complicit with the attempt to overthrow the government as defined?”

Thank you, G.W. Bush.

He’s as responsible as anyone — including the vast majority of Republicans who held office after the World Trade Center attacks.

A “Department of Homeland Security” was as dangerous a threat to freedom as anything George Orwell might have dreamed up.

Ol’ Ben Franklin was absolutely right about trading liberty for security...


32 posted on 02/07/2013 10:45:53 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: RWGinger
If the purpose of the FEMA “corpse” was only to assist in times of national disasters and if at least one class of over 200 was graduated last Sept.

I have been through FEMA training. Those who attend are from state local and other federal agencies. The idea is to have all the agencies come together under the organization structure of FEMA during an emergency. That's the idea any way. The reality is that it is complete clusterfark, with a massive bureaucratic mess that only the federal government could create.

As you would expect they combine the efficiency of the post office with the competency of TSA and throw in the expediency of DMV for good measure.

why didn’t this FEMA Corp assist in the aftermath of Sandy?

They did, with all the excellence we have come to expect.

33 posted on 02/07/2013 10:49:19 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: Amendment10

USNORTHCOMM is the President’s Army. Basically this makes the US a command theater just like Afghanistan and Iraq. DHS then becomes the command authority. The prez can use DHS as he see fit to protect the homeland.

CIA, FBI, NSA, FEMA and all the other alphabet agencies will fall under this umbrella. We are so screwed.


34 posted on 02/07/2013 10:51:59 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Logical me
Testing the wasters imo. The American subjects are not transformed enough yet,
as demonstrated by the rush to buy firearms the last couple of months when Obama,
sent his veiled message. It takes continued treasure to pull off an attempted coup
against the Constitution, and we have nothing but debt atm.

It would take five years to complete and there would be no survivors on either side.
The military would find it difficult to bomb their own brothers and sisters over
a political battle.

Part one of this treasonous takeover is happening in our classrooms and Churches.

35 posted on 02/07/2013 10:54:57 AM PST by MaxMax
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So you were a member of Obana’s Fema Corps?

Where did you attend the training ?
Where was the graduation?

I think you are confusing people who take FEMA training and avble assist in times of disaster ( for which we thank you)
and the Corps I mentioned which is a PAID group of 18-24 y o , the ‘ civilian force 0dumbo promised


36 posted on 02/07/2013 10:56:49 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: usurper

i misread your post
I thought you were defending FENA

I think that people like you who volunteer to help out are to be respected and thanked for the work during Sandy

The paid Fema Youth OTOH were no where to be seen


37 posted on 02/07/2013 11:02:15 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: Road Glide

Bush was actually against a DHS but was over whelmed by everyone wanting to “do something”.


38 posted on 02/07/2013 11:02:15 AM PST by Himyar
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To: Oldpuppymax

I sure hope these obama buttboys wear snappy uniforms.


39 posted on 02/07/2013 11:06:09 AM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

> If Kevin Collins is so smart, why does he spell the possessive form of his name “Collin’s?”

No smart person has expertise in all possible areas.


40 posted on 02/07/2013 11:10:01 AM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: yantis

This has been in the planning stages for a long time. Don’t forget Old Man Bush’s “New World Order” and “thousand points of light”. Maybe he meant thousand points of bayonets. I


41 posted on 02/07/2013 11:10:35 AM PST by Terry Mross (Who long before America is no more?)
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To: MaxMax
You said in part: "The military would find it difficult to bomb their own brothers and sisters over a political battle."

Response: At one time this may have been true. However, as of now our military are no longer our neighbors, the kid next door, our school chum etc. The military is rapidly becoming composed of Sodomites, women who are jealous of and hate men, the felon, minorities who are in for the perks etc. etc. This type of military is personally bound to "The Divine One" not to the Nation as a whole as represented by The Constitution. Caesar grasped the need to turn his legions from representatives of the Roman Republic to his personal force. The clown and his masters are doing the same as Caesar.

This new military will have no compunction over killing Americans, especially white Christians, in a most horrible manner. These military types will ensure death will be painful and long in coming to any it captures in the coming fight.

42 posted on 02/07/2013 11:17:26 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Oldpuppymax

This thing about the ammo keeps popping up and there is a lot of uninformed commentary. The agencies of DHS use a lot of ammo in practice. It was the same before the advent of DHS. The Border Patrol alone uses nearly 20 million rounds a year just to qualify and yes hollow points are used during certification. This doesn’t include rounds used for additional training and tactical team certification.


43 posted on 02/07/2013 1:07:15 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

The idea that DHS could be a formidable internal security force is laughable. DHS is really nothing more than a huge welfare program.


44 posted on 02/07/2013 1:15:08 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Charles Martel
"Fire can be so... unpredictable."

Absolutely, just ask the Ceaucseaus........oh wait!

45 posted on 02/07/2013 1:16:21 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Has anyone seen this?

Katrina gun grab:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tta1qhQZWSE


46 posted on 02/07/2013 1:21:08 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: Jyotishi
He's a PhD.

PhDs who don't know basic rules of punctuation and grammar, or at least fix glaring errors after being made aware of them, usually got their degrees via affirmative action.

He's got to be aware of it by now. I don't link to his stuff because it makes him look sloppy are careless or worse.

47 posted on 02/07/2013 2:11:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

> PhDs who don’t know basic rules of punctuation and grammar, or at least fix glaring errors
> after being made aware of them, usually got their degrees via affirmative action.

That is very true.


48 posted on 02/07/2013 3:02:53 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

He probably is enlisting gangs and the criminals in Chitown to work for him, thus, he needs to have the citizenry disarmed.


49 posted on 02/07/2013 3:17:23 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Huskrrrr
Attempted Firearms confiscation is ahead folks.

Fixed it.

50 posted on 02/07/2013 5:06:52 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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