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Trail of fugitive ex-cop turns very cold in Big Bear
The Los Angeles Times ^ | February 8, 2013 | Phil Willon, Joseph Serna and Kenneth R. Weiss

Posted on 02/09/2013 7:23:51 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The massive dragnet for a fugitive ex-cop continued Friday, with more than 100 officers conducting a fruitless search in the snowy, forested mountains around Big Bear Lake for an armed gunman who police say is on a vengeful rampage.

As the falling snow piled up, authorities pledged to continue the manhunt until they find Christopher Jordan Dorner, the 33-year-old former Los Angeles police officer suspected of killing three people, or stumble on definitive evidence that he is no longer in the area.

The trail has gone cold since Dorner's Nissan Titan pickup was found Thursday morning engulfed in flames on a U.S. Forest Service dirt road between the Bear Mountain and Snow Summit ski resorts. A set of footprints in the snow led away from the burned truck. It took more than five hours for experts to confirm that it was Dorner's vehicle and search parties to begin a methodical sweep of an area stretching across eight square miles.

While ski-masked SWAT teams went door-to-door checking hundreds of homes and shuttered cabins, other authorities fanned out on foot, slogging through fresh snow with search dogs. The teams combed backcountry and checked every shed, trash bin and barrel where the fugitive could hide. Dorner is described as African American, 6 feet tall and 270 pounds...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; chrisdorner; christopherdorner; lapd; manifesto; serialkiller
Meanwhile, he's probably in Chino, laughing his head off.
1 posted on 02/09/2013 7:23:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s probably doing this to show the world how inept these “experts” are. As well as how violent the LAPD is.

Shooting 2 women delivering newspapers? Someone also mentioned in another thread they shot at another truck as well.


2 posted on 02/09/2013 7:30:11 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just a humble opinion over this. If I was this guy...I’d have a friend who lives up in Big Bear...drive the truck up...set fire to ensure no fingerprints off it, and the friend just hikes five miles over to his place.

I’m of the mind that this guy is quietly sitting with an associate or two...who all share the same view of a bad-cop atmosphere in LA. He can sit quietly for six weeks while they sit there and pull sixty hours a week of duty (don’t know where the extra cost will come from). Then he’ll come out and perform one shooting, and go back into a month-long silence.

I don’t think this guy will make mistakes. He’s a bit smarter than what they typically go up against...and he’s one of their own. He knows where they hang out, and how to trip them up. Figure a car bomb or two along the way....probably some mail-bombs. This could turn into a very long year for the LA police department.

And eventually....some reporter is going to reopen the mess that created this and ask stupid questions. He may have been half-right about their actions being wrong.


3 posted on 02/09/2013 7:32:12 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He knows how the police operate. He knew they would fall for the old “flaming vehicle” ploy, spending a lot of time working Big Bear, while he was probably heading for the AZ desert....a classic distraction move.

And why in the world do SWAT teams have to wear masks to search door-to-door? Oh well, at least they kept their noses warm in the snow.


4 posted on 02/09/2013 7:32:12 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: NoGrayZone

I think it was the Torrance PD that rammed a Honda Ridgeline and fired shots at it. No injuries.


5 posted on 02/09/2013 7:34:08 AM PST by bubbacluck
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To: liege

Oh okay, I didn’t hear of that. They fired shots and no one was injured?

Do these cops ever go to the range? never mind....hopefully they won’t.

If they did, those 2 poor ladies may not be alive today.


6 posted on 02/09/2013 7:42:56 AM PST by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: pepsionice; txrefugee

The DC snipers were just a former buck sergeant Army mechanic and a boy, and look how many people they terrorized.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 7:43:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He could not have been within 100 miles of that blue truck when it lit up. there are only a couple ways up or down that mountain and he knew that he could not be on it when they realized who's it was.
8 posted on 02/09/2013 7:50:54 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s not up there and I doubt the law enforcement agencies are feeding the MSM any real info at this point. Loose lips sink ships....


9 posted on 02/09/2013 7:53:19 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

We spent a nice Christmas there in the early 70’s and I’ve been there numerous times as a boy scout.


10 posted on 02/09/2013 7:54:30 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah... the problem here is because he killed cops all of these resources are thrown at finding him. People get killed everyday with much less fanfare, and much less effort to find the killer.


11 posted on 02/09/2013 7:57:14 AM PST by kjam22 (my newest music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I trekked up and down it for 30 years. Grandparents lived at the base of it and I was always up there for friends, skiing, hiking, shooting, the lake and even flew into the airport a few times. I believe there is only 2 or 3 highways up that mountain (one front and one back) so he would have had to know that they could be closed off really fast. that is why i dont think he was on the mountain when that truck lit up.


12 posted on 02/09/2013 8:02:31 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Like I said a few days ago, he probably went to Lucerne Valley and kept going East, staying off the highways.

He’ll either hide in the desert until spring or he’ll try to get to Mexico.


13 posted on 02/09/2013 8:03:04 AM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Check the home of Sarah Connor’s mother!

sarc/off


14 posted on 02/09/2013 8:04:36 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why do I wish a civilian with an AR-15 takes this guy out?


15 posted on 02/09/2013 8:06:21 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

I’m guessing that’s why he burned it- so it wouldn’t sit there unnoticed for a few weeks. “HEY LOOK! HERE I AM!”

I agree with those who think that this is misdirection, and he isn’t anywhere near where the truck got torched. If he were just hiding out up there, it would have made more sense to just stash the truck somewhere, or walk away from it without doing something that would attract attention to it.

I’d have some used beater-mobiles bought off of Craigslist for cash and never re-registered, with trunks full of resupply and hidden cash money discreetly parked here and there, as well.


16 posted on 02/09/2013 8:09:49 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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He won’t last long. He’s a big, fat, black, ugly guy and can’t really blend in anywhere.

He also says he has no friends or family. He doesn’t look like a survivalist, but a guy who eats fast food.


17 posted on 02/09/2013 8:13:24 AM PST by snowstorm12
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

The Pacific Crest Trail passes though this area. He hike down the mountain by noon.


18 posted on 02/09/2013 8:24:48 AM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Hy 18 was ZERO visibility. That is the main road in or out of the area. If he wasn't familiar with driving or walking in the fog, there is no telling where he is. Big Bear, Lake Arrowhead would be the perfect place to steal a car. People that live down the Hill, but have a mountain home as well often leave a vehicle for long periods of time. Might be a long time before it was discovered gone.
19 posted on 02/09/2013 8:25:45 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Consider also they are lying, that Obama explicitly ruled out aiding the embassy, and they are hiding that by saying he left all decisions with Panetta.


20 posted on 02/09/2013 8:25:55 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: Andrei Bulba

Hmm posted to wrong thread. Oops.


21 posted on 02/09/2013 8:27:06 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: kjam22
But, most killers don’t leave a long list of their intended victims.
22 posted on 02/09/2013 8:28:59 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: snowstorm12

He may be a fast food eater but he’s 270 pounds and pretty well put together. As a former gym owner I’m thinking steroids or HGH. Which may explain his paranoia as well.


23 posted on 02/09/2013 8:47:01 AM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My guess is he will be found dead of exposure. I suppose anything is possible but that is the most likely ending.


24 posted on 02/09/2013 8:53:18 AM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: Newbomb Turk

As someone who is no stranger to gyms, that crossed my mind, as well.


25 posted on 02/09/2013 9:06:05 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So far, three innocent people in two different pickup trucks have been shot up.
Neither pickup matched the description of the perp's. Different color too.


26 posted on 02/09/2013 9:08:10 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: txrefugee
And why in the world do SWAT teams have to wear masks to search door-to-door?

Why does any criminal wear a mask?

27 posted on 02/09/2013 9:24:31 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: pepsionice

With all due respect, that would have to be a heck of a friend. Not to mention a charge of aiding and abetting a fugitive, we’ve seen what happened to a truck and it’s occupants (Torrance) for merely resembling this vehicle. To drive the actual vehicle? WOW, that would be like a kamikaze pilot who was able to ditch his plane into the sea, and somehow make it out, alive. My humble opinion, as well. Thanks.


28 posted on 02/09/2013 9:56:55 AM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: yarddog

I’m thinking he offed himself in a snowbank, not to be discovered until spring thaw. He has accepted the fact that he will not end this ‘mission’ alive, he has brought publicity upon LAPD’s corrupt practices, hurt the guy he most wanted (Father Quan), and instilled terror in the police. If terrorizing them was his goal, they are guaranteed to be on edge, for weeks, if my humble hypothesis is true. Just my 2 cents, of course. Thanks.


29 posted on 02/09/2013 10:05:02 AM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: jttpwalsh; pepsionice

Dorner could have left the truck there himself a while ago, with a timed incendiary device.


30 posted on 02/09/2013 10:58:31 AM PST by wideminded
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy has been clever so far, so I doubt he was stupid enough to leave tracks leading into the woods unless that was exactly where he would NOT be when they searched the area.

I’m with you. He’s melted into background of a city somewhere. Probably has one or more prearranged “safe houses” to hide & plan his next move.


31 posted on 02/09/2013 11:16:10 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: wideminded

I agree that there was a device that probably allowed time to depart the scene. It couldn’t have been too long a period of time, however, as it was supposedly the same vehicle he was using when he allegedly shot the cops in Riverside County, earlier that same day. Thanks.


32 posted on 02/09/2013 11:32:58 AM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Soon he’ll set off another diversion in another remote location, and the LAPD will bite yet again.


33 posted on 02/09/2013 12:51:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Excellent suggestion.

And does it with one shot.


34 posted on 02/09/2013 9:28:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv
And does it with one shot.

Actually, I hope it takes multiple 30 round mags until the SOB is put down for good.

35 posted on 02/10/2013 5:19:19 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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