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3D printed Mag good for 347 rounds, Defense Distributed calls it the "Cuomo"
Gun Watch ^ | 10 February, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/09/2013 1:55:41 PM PST by marktwain

The Cuomo (30 round AR-15 magazine) is said to have operated for 342 rounds, two thirds of them full auto. This is a complete redesign over the last prototype.

The video of the test and even the article by wired.com have been reported blocked by various sites.

The design is not available at the site that Defense Distributed has set up for "The Island of Misfit Objects" or DEFCAD .

The design is expected to be made available to the public in a few days.

As reported earlier, the group is also working on a 40 round magazine for firearms that use AK type magazines.

Link to video

Link to wired.com article

Link to DEFCAD

Dean Weingarten


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 3dmagazine; 3dprinting; balakahasan0mommy; banglist; cum0; defcad; defensedistributed
The "Cuomo" is a not so subtle jab at budding tyrant, Governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo. Links are live at the site.
1 posted on 02/09/2013 1:55:53 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Small world....I took a Cuomo this morning.


2 posted on 02/09/2013 2:00:11 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: marktwain

This is genius plans, the ability to make an object unbannable because it is too readily available is the perfect answer to the gun grabbers and statists.

Now if I could print ammunition!


3 posted on 02/09/2013 2:03:27 PM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
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To: marktwain
The threat to our 2nd amendment rights may be the big push that cheap 3-D printing needed. LOL! Freedom expands when the boot of the tyrant steps down.

/johnny

4 posted on 02/09/2013 2:04:29 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: King_Corey
Now if I could print ammunition!

It would not surprise me if that came soon, at least to some extent. Printed "brass" may not be reusable for many years, but it could probably be designed to conform to the magazine and more especially the chamber well enough to hold together for one firing. Bullets are easy to cast. All we need are primers and powder, and those are (for now) the bottleneck. Still, I imagine a culture that can put recipes for Meth online and gradually improve them to where the explosion rate is acceptable to druggies can do the same for smokeless powders if the need arises.

5 posted on 02/09/2013 2:09:05 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: marktwain

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(D-NY) Governor Andrew Scumo admitted long ago that he carries a GLOCK

(D-CA) US Senator Diane Feinstein carried a S&W .357Magnum - do you believe she no longer carries a handgun? I have heard her staff (on audiotape) in CA say she prefers a revolver - Does DiFi want that audiotape broadcast and released now to go VIRAL?

(D-NY) US Senator Schmucky Schumer and his (Judge) wife carry handguns

Webb’s staffer was caught carrying Webb’s pistol into his office in DC - no arrests were made

The list is endless

Balaka “Skeeter” Hasan-Obama #2 was very uncomfortable on two (2) occasions at Camp David (for under 5 minutes!) per the guys there.....

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6 posted on 02/09/2013 2:16:15 PM PST by devolve ( -------- -- --It is not where Obama was born that is the problem - it is where he's living now--)
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To: King_Corey

>>This is genius plans, the ability to make an object unbannable because it is too readily available is the perfect answer to the gun grabbers and statists.

Or it supplies them with the motivation to make the bans even more heinous. These stories scare the hoplophobic sheeple into demanding even stronger action to keep “those guns” out of the hands of citizens.

If these geniuses were our friends, they’d be designing the Liberator pistol and carbine for the 21st century. Something that can be cranked out by the hundreds and distributed to the oppressed masses so they can go out and get all the real AR15 mags, ammo, and rifles that they need.

If they were real smart, they’d be designing a 3D printed modern flintlock with a fully enclosed pan for the days when ammmo and primers are banned, or one that uses a “government-approved” 22 LR as the primer in a black powder weapon if they choose to ban all centerfire ammo but leave us the “right” to do target practice and small game hunting.

And they would be keeping their mouths shut about their ability to make throw-away mags.


7 posted on 02/09/2013 2:20:17 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

Maybe they can print you up some decaffeinated coffee.

Lighten up Francis.


8 posted on 02/09/2013 2:27:42 PM PST by MDspinboyredux
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To: Bryanw92
And they would be keeping their mouths shut about their ability to make throw-away mags.

Absolute cowardice.

The great thing about open source is that everyone has a chance to use and modify it because the information is shared freely.

Hiding in the shadows and keeping secrets is for 3 year old girls, not grown men with rights.

/johnny

9 posted on 02/09/2013 2:29:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain

is there some place where I can rent the use
of a 3-D machine?

the only piece I need is a AR lower receiver.


10 posted on 02/09/2013 2:35:47 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: Bryanw92

Enjoy your throwaway flintlock. LOL


11 posted on 02/09/2013 2:41:30 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: RockyTx

strong metal lower receiver kits are all over the internet

do a little research


12 posted on 02/09/2013 2:52:33 PM PST by devolve ( -------- -- --It is not where Obama was born that is the problem - it is where he's living now--)
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To: marktwain

Moochelle says Skeeter has a pre-ignition problemo


13 posted on 02/09/2013 2:54:09 PM PST by devolve ( -------- -- --It is not where Obama was born that is the problem - it is where he's living now--)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You know dam well “they” will shut this down. It’s only a matter of (a short) time.


14 posted on 02/09/2013 3:03:36 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: marktwain

You could legally 3D print a 3D printer that in turn prints a full automatic.


15 posted on 02/09/2013 3:09:12 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (If you want to ring the bell - you got to swing the hammer hard!)
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To: SgtHooper
You know dam well “they” will shut this down.

'They' can't. That's just a fact. They can make laws, but it can't be stopped. No more than booze or weed can be stopped.

Yep, you can outlaw it, but you can't stop it.

Pi doesn't equal 3.0, regardless of what the legislature says.

/johnny

16 posted on 02/09/2013 3:10:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

>>Absolute cowardice.

FU! Cowardice is making throwaway mags while we still have millions of the good steel ones in our possession and planning for the day when we hand all those in so we can start covertly manufacturing new resin ones.

>>Hiding in the shadows and keeping secrets is for 3 year old girls, not grown men with rights.

Grown men with rights don’t give up their steel mags! Or their polymer ones. Courage and innovation is inventing new guns that aren’t just crappy knock-offs of the ones you are planning to give up.


17 posted on 02/09/2013 3:21:41 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Balacka Skeeter Hasan-Ocommie Deux


18 posted on 02/09/2013 3:22:12 PM PST by devolve ( -------- -- --It is not where Obama was born that is the problem - it is where he's living now--)
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To: Bryanw92
Touched a nerve, I see.

I don't plan on handing ANYTHING in to ANYONE.

I've seen the elephant.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. I will not/do not comply with unconstitutional laws.

Any technology that moves manufacture of useful products (like magazines) closer to the hands of the consumer is something I support.

/johnny

19 posted on 02/09/2013 3:32:55 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RockyTx

You can find AR lowers all over the ‘net. It’s not difficult.

You can find AR lowers that aren’t complete - they’re just a chunk of metal with some shaping done to them.


20 posted on 02/09/2013 3:35:45 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Pollster1
It would not surprise me if that came soon, at least to some extent.

Do a google search on your average high capacity office Xerox color copier and see why companies prefer to rent them rather than buy them.......

As for a copier that can replicate firearms parts or ammunition? Hell, there ain't a citizen around that will be able to afford the cost of the copier stuff let alone the copier itself.............

This is such a stupid non-story.........

21 posted on 02/09/2013 3:47:11 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Do a google search on your average high capacity office Xerox color copier

Of course, everyone can afford color inkjet printers for low volume production.

But you are correct, this is a non-story, like that horseless carriage thing. It's just a fad, and can never come down in price where average citizen can own them. Besides, who can afford to pay a guy to walk in front waving a red flag?

/johnny

22 posted on 02/09/2013 4:00:16 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: King_Corey

I am reminded of The Weapons Shops of Ishar by A.E. van Vogt. It was an influential sci-fi read for me in my teens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Weapon_Shops_of_Isher


23 posted on 02/09/2013 4:04:29 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Bryanw92

Know how to boil a frog?

A little at a time.

Those who are pushing (like these youngsters are with the printed mags) may well push the grabbers to try to grab everything.

When you drop a frog into boiling water, he jumps out.

Same thing here: the more extreme the grabbers get, the more people who will come down off the fence and start pushing back.

I’m considering drawing up plans and instructions on how to make a handgun from steel you find in a junkyard.


24 posted on 02/09/2013 4:11:00 PM PST by NVDave
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To: SgtHooper

***You know dam well “they” will shut this down.***

Then we will do just like the Viet Cong in the jungles of
Vietnam. Using a piece of sheet metal and a pair of tin snips they turned out many a magazine for captured m-16s.


25 posted on 02/09/2013 4:18:48 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: NVDave

Zip gun - old school.


26 posted on 02/09/2013 4:33:57 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: Gaffer
"Small world....I took a Cuomo this morning."

Had four tacos for dinner last night, woke up with a bad case of the 'Schumers' this a.m.
Pepto Bismal works wonders!
27 posted on 02/09/2013 4:35:32 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: Scrambler Bob

I’m going for above and beyond old school.

It’s easy enough to make a semi-auto with a mag capacity of 8 or more rounds that could be made at home with limited tools (think along the lines of what the muzzies have in Peshawar or the illegal gun makers in the Philippines), with instruction on how to us a drill, hacksaw and file... there’s no way that guns can effectively banned.

There are tons of Makarov and 1911 clones out there, made with little more than a set of hand files, drills or drill press, polishing cloth and a grinder.


28 posted on 02/09/2013 4:51:43 PM PST by NVDave
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To: marktwain

They hate anything that empowers the individual: the constitution, the second amendment, the car, homeschooling, 3d printers. How long until they try to ban them all?


29 posted on 02/09/2013 5:12:37 PM PST by I want the USA back (Only people with their head up their a$$ vote democrat.)
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To: Bryanw92

>>This is genius plans, the ability to make an object unbannable because it is too readily available is the perfect answer to the gun grabbers and statists.

Or it supplies them with the motivation to make the bans even more heinous. These stories scare the hoplophobic sheeple into demanding even stronger action to keep “those guns” out of the hands of citizens.

If these geniuses were our friends, they’d be designing the Liberator pistol and carbine for the 21st century. Something that can be cranked out by the hundreds and distributed to the oppressed masses so they can go out and get all the real AR15 mags, ammo, and rifles that they need.

If they were real smart, they’d be designing a 3D printed modern flintlock with a fully enclosed pan for the days when ammmo and primers are banned, or one that uses a “government-approved” 22 LR as the primer in a black powder weapon if they choose to ban all centerfire ammo but leave us the “right” to do target practice and small game hunting.

And they would be keeping their mouths shut about their ability to make throw-away mags.

- - - - — -— -— -— - - - - — — — —

Anyone can make a zip gun, just go to YouTube and check out one of a few hundred. For approximately $8 you can have a gun to do the Liberator activity. — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxHVDtD2S5U

What this is, the scary black rifle lower and magazine stops any real ban from ever happening. Quietly everyone will go into the basement then 5 minutes later build one.

If they try to ban, the revolution begins. I don’t care about the idiot sheeple that call for bans, I don’t follow violations of the 2nd amendment, and our local Sheriff has already confirmed, he isn’t going to seize guns. (He values his life! Folks in Texas take guns kinda serious.)

As for the other weapons, they are already in the design phase of a full gun. They will get there quite soon.


30 posted on 02/09/2013 5:21:21 PM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Then we will do just like the Viet Cong in the jungles of Vietnam.

The Vietnamese had a history of over 30 years of struggle against various combatants and one might say they grew up with war and the basic instinct of survival.

Can you say the same thing about the citizens of this country? Or yourself?

I doubt it.......

In fact, a few days ago there was a thread here about the first New Yorker, a military vet, to get arrested for simplying having high capacity magazines in the trunk of his car.

I didn't hear you or any other chest thumpers filled with bravado, calling for action. What happened, did your job, your mortgage payment and your kid's college education get in the way? Or were you tied up that weekend with your kid's hockey tournament?

Sorry my brother but there isn't going to be any revolution so long as you and your buddies have that payment on your Chevy Silverado or the upcoming NCAA basketball tournament to think about........

31 posted on 02/09/2013 5:28:15 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Bryanw92; JRandomFreeper; King_Corey; Pollster1; SgtHooper; Berlin_Freeper
......they’d be designing the Liberator pistol and carbine for the 21st century. Something that can be cranked out by the hundreds and distributed to the oppressed masses...

No printer needed. The designs have been available for quite some time and the materials are as close as your hardware store.

The Home Gunsmith

One full auto design was even built and tested by a properly licensed individual (a manufacturer of dealer samples) here in the U.S. and was found to be functional and safe. Of course most of the designs are illegal for the average citizen to build since they are full auto and carry some rather stiff penalties for violations. However, there is one semi auto design which is perfectly legal for individuals to build for their own use in most States and under current Federal law. The rest of the information should be considered purely for academic and/or educational purposes.

32 posted on 02/09/2013 5:28:53 PM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
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To: Hot Tabasco

***I didn’t hear you or any other chest thumpers filled with bravado, calling for action.****

Strange, I don’t remember thumping my chest calling for action. I’ve renewed my voting membership to the NRA and have a pair of tin snips for my blacksmith work. magazines are not that hard to make.

Let the NRA do their job first.


33 posted on 02/09/2013 5:38:02 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
The Vietnamese had a history of over 30 years of struggle against various combatants and one might say they grew up with war and the basic instinct of survival. Can you say the same thing about the citizens of this country? Or yourself?

Did they somehow start off with 30 years experience, or did they start with the first battle on the first day of the struggle?

34 posted on 02/09/2013 5:44:16 PM PST by eartrumpet
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To: Hot Tabasco
so long as you and your buddies have that payment on your Chevy Silverado or the upcoming NCAA basketball tournament to think about..

I don't have car payment, a house payment or a television. Not everyone lives that urban life.

/johnny

35 posted on 02/09/2013 6:11:39 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: NVDave

Dave,

my point is,
lower receiver is a FFL issue,
other parts are mail order.


36 posted on 02/09/2013 6:16:59 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: Hot Tabasco
Do a google search on your average high capacity office Xerox color copier and see why companies prefer to rent them rather than buy them....... As for a copier that can replicate firearms parts or ammunition? Hell, there ain't a citizen around that will be able to afford the cost of the copier stuff let alone the copier itself............. This is such a stupid non-story.........

Perhaps I'm looking at cost a little differently, but I spend more on ammo in a year than many of these 3D printers cost. current(?) 3D printers with prices It's a new technology, so prices are likely to come down substantially. It may be a non-story this year, but in a couple of years? I think and hope this will take some of the air out of the gun-grabber movement. Barrels and receivers may be hard, for now, but the rest of the parts? You can buy springs anywhere or make them, and most parts don't have to be stronger than a good plastic.

37 posted on 02/09/2013 6:52:49 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: RockyTx

Yes, true.

With a 80% lower, everything is mail order.


38 posted on 02/09/2013 8:47:13 PM PST by NVDave
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To: Hot Tabasco
aside from the price, companies usually prefer to rent/lease things because it can be expense'd rather than listed as a capital outlay, at least that's why we do it...
39 posted on 02/09/2013 9:52:38 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: RockyTx
No, the lower receiver is not an FFL issue if you make it for yourself and do not sell it or give it to any one. The “receiver” doesn't need any markings at all, including a serial number. This allows people to assemble “own use” personal AKMs from flat steel stampings or ARs from 80 percent finished aluminum lowers. ATF says that a receiver must be more than 80 percent finished to become a firearm. Markings and serial numbers are applied if the finished product is offered for sale to the public.
40 posted on 02/10/2013 3:16:14 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MDspinboyredux
Lighten up Francis.

I had to look that quotation up. "Stripes" is a movie I had never seen. I thought you were quoting "Logan's Run".

For the benefit of those who had not seen "Stripes":

Psycho: The name's Francis Soyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you.
Leon: Ooooooh.
Psycho: You just made the list, buddy. And I don't like nobody touching my stuff. So just keep your meat-hooks off. If I catch any of you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. Also, I don't like nobody touching me. Now, any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.
Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis.

41 posted on 02/10/2013 5:10:33 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Pollster1

FWIW, plastic cased ammo has been available. The .223 stuff worked nice.


42 posted on 02/10/2013 5:17:45 AM PST by ctdonath2 (3% of the population perpetrates >50% of homicides...but gun control advocates blame metal boxes.)
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To: marktwain
The solution is simple, and one that fits need of the big-government/big-corporate criminal monopoly to force the peasants to be dependent upon them for EVERYTHING.

Outlaw 3D printers, and delegate enforcement of the ban to the BATFE3D.

Just think of all the government jobs it will create!

43 posted on 02/10/2013 9:45:56 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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