Posted on 02/10/2013 8:02:21 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
Many of us have questioned what causedRoberts to switch his vote on ObamaCare at the last minute, as repo..., and doing so, so late that the Conservative Justices were forced to rewrite their majority opinion to be minority dissent. These facts may answer that question.
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I have no answer to that question. However, Roberts did do a good thing, believe it or not. By ruling Obamacare a tax, it became the responsibility of Congress to implement, or not. Roberts made it impossible for the socialists to keep using the courts to push their agenda on social issues. If he had ruled it unconstitutional, the have healthcare advocates would have just kept trying until they got their way with a friendly Supreme Court.
Now it’s a matter of winning Congress, so it can be overturned.
Oh for Pete’s sake people, the Irish birth mothers probably traveled to the “Latin American country” and gave birth there, and the Judge adopted from there. The birth mothers were probably Catholic and it was mortifying for them to be pregnant out of wedlock and their priests and parents were going to have a heart attack if the neighbors found out. An American adoption might be undone by a misguided judge who thinks putting a child who has been loved and protected in a good home will be fine back in the care and custody of their meth addicted natural parent, so people who can afford it go overseas. If anything, he didn’t want the press making something up that wasn’t there and making his children miserable.
Winning the congress with a large enough majority to override a presidential veto.
Anyone that remains believing in just a little shred of decency in perhaps a few people in our various politcal juntas need to either wise up or get some professional help. The US government is the largest criminal enterprise is history and has been that way for the last 20+ years.
None of them are clean and if you feel like defending YOUR congressman, senator, governor, or what have you, don’t bother. That just identifies you as part of the problem in my eyes. Your own pet congressman or judge deserves their own lamppost and length of rope right next to the one you might despise...
With enough seantors that have not been bought or blackmailed to avoid a filibuster and the 2/3 majority in both houses to over-ride the veto.
The GOP won Congress. So far they have done nothing to reduce the "tax" to zero, and show no inclination to do so. Know why? Because ultimately they GOP believes in fascism lite just as much as the dems. The idea of indenturing the serfs to private entities gives them wood. If you are a U.S. Citizen you now belong to a health insurance plantation.
Please, stop the crap. Roberts did not do a "good thing."
Do you see Congress lifting an effeminate finger to stop a damned thing this communist-coup administration is doing? Do you see even the remotest of chances that "we" can defeat their massive election fraud machine to retake Congress? Please don't shill for Roberts.
There is near-zero chance it will be repealed. The Congress is for it. They have no choice, as it is being implemented more and more each day. We are stuck with it.
How is voting along with Sotomayor, Kagan and Ginsburg a “good thing”?
Amen. Congress hasn’t done a damn thing to stop Soetoro..
His hidden gay past was probably uncovered. He’s supposed to be a closet dweller. Married super late when he wanted to advance his career. Did pro bono work for the gay side trying to overturn a Colorado constitutional amendment. Queer as a 3 dollar bill if you ask me.
Blackmail,, one more vote.
Not necessarily. The states can refuse to implement it, although many of our governors have already folded like cheap suits. Shame on them.
BS.
Yep. And, I don’t see them doing so anytime soon.
We are so screwed, my FRiend.
How Roberts Was Blackmailed To Support ObamaCare
Many of us have questioned what caused Roberts to switch his vote on ObamaCare at the last minute, as reported by CBS, and doing so, so late that the Conservative Justices were forced to rewrite their majority opinion to be minority dissent. These facts may answer that question.
In 2000 Justice Roberts and his wife Jane adopted two children. Initially it was apparent that the adoptions were "from a Latin American country", but over time it has become apparent that the adopted children were not Latin American, but were Irish. Why this matters will become evident.
In 2005 the NY Times began investigating Roberts life as a matter of his nomination to the Supreme Court by George Bush. The Times was shortly accused of trying to unseal the adoption papers and intending to violate the anonymity of the adoption process... however there is more to the story.
Drudge did an article in 2005
http://patterico.com/2005/08/04/drudge-says-new-york-times-is-investigating-robertss-adoption-records/
- The NEW YORK TIMES is looking into the adoption records of the children of Supreme Court Nominee John G. Roberts, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
The TIMES has investigative reporter Glen Justice hot on the case to investigate the status of adoption records of Judge Roberts’ two young children, Josie age 5 and Jack age 4, a top source reveals.
Judge Roberts and his wife Jane adopted the children when they each were infants.
Both children were adopted from Latin America.
A TIMES insider claims the look into the adoption papers are part of the paper’s “standard background check.”
Bill Borders, NYT senior editor, explains: “Our reporters made initial inquiries about the adoptions, as they did about many other aspects of his background. They did so with great care, understanding the sensitivity of the issue.”
Were the Children Adopted from Ireland?
This is not clear ... -- the Associated Press reports that they were "adopted from Latin America." This seems a bit puzzling, in light of the Time magazine report indicating that the children were born in Ireland. Also, their blonde hair and fair skin do not seem conventionally Latin American. 1
TIME had a “web exclusive” on the Roberts's (7/24/05) and quoted a family friend as stating the kids were “born in Ireland 4 1/2 months apart.”
How were the Children Adopted?
According to The New York Times, based on information from Mrs. Roberts's sister, Mary Torre, the children were adopted through a private adoption.
As explained by Families for Private Adoption, "[p]rivate (or independent) adoption is a legal method of building a family through adoption without using an adoption agency for placement. In private adoption, the birth parents relinquish their parental rights directly to the adoptive parents, instead of to an agency."2
But was Robert's adoption utilizing "a legal method"?
Apparently the process of adopting Jack involved some stress for John Roberts. According to Dan Klaidman of Newsweek, during the contested 2000 election, Roberts "spent a few days in Florida advising lawyers [for George W. Bush] on their legal strategy," but "he did not play a central role," because " at the time, Roberts was preoccupied with the adoption of his son."
It is now quite evident that the two Children were from Ireland. Even wikipedia references these adoptions at the time of Roberts' confirmation, and indicates that the children were of Irish birth.
However Irish law 1) prohibits the adoption of Children to non-residents, and 2) also does not permit private adoptions, but rather has all adoptions go through a public agency.
This would explain the children's origin from a "Latin American country", so as to circumvent Irish law.
Evidently Roberts arranged for this adoption through some sort of trafficking agency, that got the children out of Ireland and into that Latin American country, from which they were adopted, thereby circumventing two Irish laws -- entirely illegal, but perhaps quasi-legitimized by the birth mothers (two) transporting the children out of Ireland.
Undoubtedly Roberts and his wife spent a great deal of money for this illegal process, circumventing Irish laws and arranging for the transit of two Irish children from separate birth-mothers to a foreign nation. Come 2012, those two children have been with the Roberts' for roughly 10 years, since they were adopted as "infants".
Some might feel an impulse dismiss this information, mistakenly believing Roberts and his wife were doing a good thing for a children needing a home.
That would be an inaccurate belief. As recognized, such an inter-country adoption would only come about at great cost, and those who utilize this method are creating a for-profit black market in adoptive children, trafficking across international borders, and doing so from mothers who have not yet given up their children except for that profit. Such actions are creating a very unsavory profit-for-children human trafficking market that even necessitates immediate contact with new birth mothers in dire circumstances to offer financial gain. The entire arrangement is thoroughly predatory, turning children into only financial commodity, and even providing motivation for their birth mothers to give them up! That's an important ethical recognition.
Roberts is not deserving of any sort of respect here, and is only the latest example of people in position believing themselves above the law, beyond scrutiny and exempt from repercussion.
It all now makes sense.
The circumstances of these two adoptions explain not only why this would be overlooked by an overall sympathetic media, but also why a sitting Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court would not want this information to become public fodder well into his tenure. Its release and public discussion would discredit Roberts as an impartial judge of the law, and undoubtedly lead to his impeachment.
This also explains why Roberts would have a means to be blackmailed, and why that leverage would still exist even after the institution of ObamaCare.
... And it has led to flipping the swing-vote on ObamaCare, which fundamentally changed the relationship between citizen and government, making us de facto property of the state, with our relative worth in care and maintenance able to be determined by the government. Essentially it was a coup without firing a shot, much less needing even an Amendment to the Constitution.
And it is consistent with Obama's Chicago-style politics, that has previously involved opening other sealed <divorce> records in order to win election.
And, to this day, he's still doing pro homo work. Likely queer as a football bat, we might say...
Is there not one patriot left in our Congress/Government who cannot/will not be blackmailed?
Where’s the blackmail?
why did roberts put Orly’s ineligibility case in the hopper so that it could possibly be selected Friday, to be considered by his peers, and himself? seems silly, doesn’t it?
Just because the Supreme Court rules something Constitutional, or unconstitutional, does not kill an issue. Had Roberts ruled it unconstitutional, it could be revisited it once Obama installed Democrat judges, with a majority Democrat Supreme Court, where it would have been ruled Constitutional.
With the decision making it the responsibility of Congress, had the Conservative vote turned out and elected a majority Congress, we could have killed Obamacare funding with a simple majority vote.
True dat
I wouldn’t be surprised if he was. Like that Southern senator in “The Godfather Part II” who initially opposed then later switched to supporting the Corleone family once they got a scandal on him.
You are sooo correctomundo.
Forget that if 15,000,000 illegals are given amensty.
I agree with you, he is gay. There are some gay photos of him from his college days which I saw on FR last year.
He betrayed us.I spit on him.He is no Catholic.
Lots of Germans and other Europeans in Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay.
Just part of the “establishment”, from what I can see of his past. Political flavor seems approximately moderate Repub.
The story of the adoption of the Hispanic/Irish children is actually from a few years ago; I guess the snews blipped it past fairly quickly, and perhaps I was not listening much at that point to the news.
If that issue is real, IMHO, he should not have accepted the nomination (ever see the old Magnum, PI episode with Jose and Miguel Ferrar (Jose played a SCOTUS nominee) ?).
Just goes to show, Repub Presidents can make New World Order-favoring SCOTUS nominations, regardless of whether they know it or not. Another notable “conservative” NWO nominee is Sandra Day O’Connor, a trustee of the board of the Rockefeller Foundation.
A lot of them moved there in the 1944-1945 timeframe.
Do you really believe Roberts will cross "Obama" on the eligibilty charge? Come on. Be real.
L,TOWM's Entire Post!
UR insane.
Roberts said ANY AND EVERYTHING can be taxed !
Congress repeal it !? They`ll go forward with anything they wish now ! Refuse to eat broccoli ? Special tax. Refuse to use solar energy? Special tax. Refuse to drive electric car? Special tax.
Roberts made sure there was not one single impediment to what the Federal Govt. can tax you for doing and especially, NOT DOING !
Seriously, u need help.
Well, I'm certainly glad that... 
is settled--
Lindsey, you RINO schmuck... 
stop calling me 'Shirley!'
Oh, Lindsey, you can call me... 
"Shirley" anytime you wish!
Dan, I hate to say it, but I don't think this is the time... 
to present our award. It could get real messy--
Ya... 
think?
why did he open the possibility by placing it there?
What Tax has EVER been overturned?
Once in place, it takes Super Majorities to get through BOTH the House and the Senate, and a Signature from the POTUS.....NEVER going to happen in your lifetime, with the One Party System that we now have.
Because he was following proper procedure. It will be denied without comment.
No. The 7 million conservatives who either did not vote, or voted for other, ensuring an Obama win as president, and a Democrat majority Congress, are the ones who need help.
You may need a super-majority to overturn the legislation, but you only needed a majority vote to dry up the funding for the legislation.
Obamacare could have rotted, for lack of funding for the next ten years, making it near implementable.
i would agree but clarify: the gop elite leaders believe in the same kind of power over us as thge socialit libtards, they just believe they’ll do it better or their way raher than the democrats. i don’t lump all repubs into this group, but i do blame the aged, establishment, snug in their leadership power, repubs.
“Blackmail,, one more vote.”
If that’s the case, they’ve got him “in the bag” for all the important votes that come up.
Particularly where the Second Amendment is concerned...
The first thought I had when I saw him on tv at his nomination or invesiture was that he was homosexual. There is a way that their faces get
WTF is the matter with you.
Read the ruling and quit deflecting.
Where in the constitution does it say the Govt. can impose a fee aka tax to create a health care system, be it obamadeathcare, medciad or medicare?
Roberts knew full well the Federal Govt. has no, zero, nada, enumerated powers to run a federal pension system , medical system, prescription drug system,etc.
Geez, you people call yourselves Freepers
There is the fantasy Congress, and then there's the real Congress. The latter closely matches the description of the second beast in Revelation, the one with two horns that makes the laws demanding prostration to the first beast.
What else to expect from a lawless regime?
Chief Justice Roberts gave power to Obama and Congress, kind of like the dragon in Revelation 13.
Ditto.
Sure....but you KNOW how this works: Executive Orders.....cut funding for Obamacare, and they would just make it up by shuffling money from OTHER accounts, and in the case of these Usurpers, it would be the Military that would be the loser. Regulatory Agencies up the ass, have un-told Billions to spread around, as do all the Czars and their bloated budgets and staffs.
If it were so simple to "de-fund", there would have been efforts to choke-off money for Czars and Regulatory Agencies, already.
We have a one-party government, where vote-buying with tax money and destruction of Free Enterprise is the Agenda, and it cannot be stopped when there is NO ONE representing We The People (unless you are one of the 47% parasitic government-dependents; then YOU have "representation" to keep you voting for more handouts).
Obama told Roberts to finally end this ineligibility thing once and for all before someone in his cabinet turns on him.
Bender, mah man! Good to see your take on things!
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