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Was Chief Justice John Roberts Blackmailed To Support ObamaCare?
PatrionAction.net ^ | 02/10/2013 | Katie Baker

Posted on 02/10/2013 8:02:21 PM PST by Wisconsinlady

Many of us have questioned what causedRoberts to switch his vote on ObamaCare at the last minute, as repo..., and doing so, so late that the Conservative Justices were forced to rewrite their majority opinion to be minority dissent. These facts may answer that question.

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Sounds like they will not let this good crisis go to waste.
1 posted on 02/10/2013 8:02:33 PM PST by Wisconsinlady
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To: Wisconsinlady

I have no answer to that question. However, Roberts did do a good thing, believe it or not. By ruling Obamacare a tax, it became the responsibility of Congress to implement, or not. Roberts made it impossible for the socialists to keep using the courts to push their agenda on social issues. If he had ruled it unconstitutional, the have healthcare advocates would have just kept trying until they got their way with a friendly Supreme Court.

Now it’s a matter of winning Congress, so it can be overturned.


2 posted on 02/10/2013 8:09:58 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Oh for Pete’s sake people, the Irish birth mothers probably traveled to the “Latin American country” and gave birth there, and the Judge adopted from there. The birth mothers were probably Catholic and it was mortifying for them to be pregnant out of wedlock and their priests and parents were going to have a heart attack if the neighbors found out. An American adoption might be undone by a misguided judge who thinks putting a child who has been loved and protected in a good home will be fine back in the care and custody of their meth addicted natural parent, so people who can afford it go overseas. If anything, he didn’t want the press making something up that wasn’t there and making his children miserable.


3 posted on 02/10/2013 8:11:06 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Wisconsinlady

4 posted on 02/10/2013 8:11:15 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Jonty30
Now it’s a matter of winning Congress, so it can be overturned.

Winning the congress with a large enough majority to override a presidential veto.

5 posted on 02/10/2013 8:15:26 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Wisconsinlady

Anyone that remains believing in just a little shred of decency in perhaps a few people in our various politcal juntas need to either wise up or get some professional help. The US government is the largest criminal enterprise is history and has been that way for the last 20+ years.

None of them are clean and if you feel like defending YOUR congressman, senator, governor, or what have you, don’t bother. That just identifies you as part of the problem in my eyes. Your own pet congressman or judge deserves their own lamppost and length of rope right next to the one you might despise...


6 posted on 02/10/2013 8:16:52 PM PST by L,TOWM (No one in the US is free of the spirit of entitlement)
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To: Jonty30

With enough seantors that have not been bought or blackmailed to avoid a filibuster and the 2/3 majority in both houses to over-ride the veto.


7 posted on 02/10/2013 8:19:06 PM PST by L,TOWM (No one in the US is free of the spirit of entitlement)
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To: Jonty30
Now it’s a matter of winning Congress, so it can be overturned.

The GOP won Congress. So far they have done nothing to reduce the "tax" to zero, and show no inclination to do so. Know why? Because ultimately they GOP believes in fascism lite just as much as the dems. The idea of indenturing the serfs to private entities gives them wood. If you are a U.S. Citizen you now belong to a health insurance plantation.

8 posted on 02/10/2013 8:19:22 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Jonty30
However, Roberts did do a good thing, believe it or not.

Please, stop the crap. Roberts did not do a "good thing."

Do you see Congress lifting an effeminate finger to stop a damned thing this communist-coup administration is doing? Do you see even the remotest of chances that "we" can defeat their massive election fraud machine to retake Congress? Please don't shill for Roberts.

9 posted on 02/10/2013 8:22:25 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Jonty30

There is near-zero chance it will be repealed. The Congress is for it. They have no choice, as it is being implemented more and more each day. We are stuck with it.


10 posted on 02/10/2013 8:22:30 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Jonty30

How is voting along with Sotomayor, Kagan and Ginsburg a “good thing”?


11 posted on 02/10/2013 8:23:17 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: WXRGina

Amen. Congress hasn’t done a damn thing to stop Soetoro..


12 posted on 02/10/2013 8:26:46 PM PST by cardinal4 (Constitution? What Constitution?)
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To: Wisconsinlady

His hidden gay past was probably uncovered. He’s supposed to be a closet dweller. Married super late when he wanted to advance his career. Did pro bono work for the gay side trying to overturn a Colorado constitutional amendment. Queer as a 3 dollar bill if you ask me.

Blackmail,, one more vote.


13 posted on 02/10/2013 8:28:23 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: PghBaldy

Not necessarily. The states can refuse to implement it, although many of our governors have already folded like cheap suits. Shame on them.


14 posted on 02/10/2013 8:30:55 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Wisconsinlady

BS.


15 posted on 02/10/2013 8:32:10 PM PST by BAW (We are the Resistance.)
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To: cardinal4

Yep. And, I don’t see them doing so anytime soon.

We are so screwed, my FRiend.


16 posted on 02/10/2013 8:34:28 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Wisconsinlady
Original post

How Roberts Was Blackmailed To Support ObamaCare

Many of us have questioned what caused Roberts  to switch his vote on ObamaCare at the last minute, as reported by CBS, and doing so, so late that the Conservative Justices were forced to rewrite their majority opinion to be minority dissent. These facts may answer that question.


In 2000 Justice Roberts and his wife Jane adopted two children. Initially it was apparent that the adoptions were "from a Latin American country", but over time it has become apparent that the adopted children were not Latin American, but were Irish.  Why this matters will become evident.

In 2005 the NY Times began investigating Roberts life as a matter of his nomination to the Supreme Court by George Bush.  The Times was shortly accused of trying to unseal the adoption papers and intending to violate  the anonymity of the adoption process... however there is more to the story.


Drudge did an article in 2005
http://patterico.com/2005/08/04/drudge-says-new-york-times-is-investigating-robertss-adoption-records/




Were the Children Adopted from Ireland?

This is not clear ... -- the Associated Press reports that they were "adopted from Latin America." This seems a bit puzzling, in light of the Time magazine report indicating that the children were born in Ireland. Also, their blonde hair and fair skin do not seem conventionally Latin American. 1

TIME had a “web exclusive” on the Roberts's (7/24/05) and quoted a family friend as stating the kids were “born in Ireland 4 1/2 months apart.”

How were the Children Adopted?

According to The New York Times, based on information from Mrs. Roberts's sister, Mary Torre, the children were adopted through a private adoption.

As explained by Families for Private Adoption, "[p]rivate (or independent) adoption is a legal method of building a family through adoption without using an adoption agency for placement. In private adoption, the birth parents relinquish their parental rights directly to the adoptive parents, instead of to an agency."2

But was Robert's adoption utilizing "a legal method"?

Apparently the process of adopting Jack involved some stress for John Roberts. According to Dan Klaidman of Newsweek, during the contested 2000 election, Roberts "spent a few days in Florida advising lawyers [for George W. Bush] on their legal strategy," but "he did not play a central role," because " at the time, Roberts was preoccupied with the adoption of his son."

It is now quite evident that the two Children were from Ireland.  Even wikipedia references these adoptions at the time of Roberts' confirmation, and indicates that the children were of Irish birth.

However Irish law 1) prohibits the adoption of Children to non-residents, and 2) also does not permit private adoptions, but rather has all adoptions go through a public agency.

This would explain the children's origin from a "Latin American country", so as to circumvent Irish law.

Evidently Roberts arranged for this adoption through some sort of trafficking agency, that got the children out of Ireland and into that Latin American country, from which they were adopted, thereby circumventing two Irish laws -- entirely illegal, but perhaps quasi-legitimized by the birth mothers (two) transporting the children out of Ireland. 

Undoubtedly Roberts and his wife spent a great deal of money for this illegal process, circumventing Irish laws and arranging for the transit of two Irish children from separate birth-mothers to a foreign nation.  Come 2012, those two children have been with the Roberts' for roughly 10 years, since they were adopted as "infants".

Some might feel an impulse dismiss this information, mistakenly believing Roberts and his wife were doing a good thing for a children needing a home.

That would be an inaccurate belief.  As recognized, such an inter-country adoption would only come about at great cost, and those who utilize this method are creating a for-profit black market in adoptive children, trafficking across international borders, and doing so from mothers who have not yet given up  their children except for that profit.  Such actions are creating a very unsavory profit-for-children human trafficking market that even necessitates immediate contact with new birth mothers in dire circumstances to offer financial gain. The entire arrangement is thoroughly predatory, turning children into only financial commodity,  and even providing motivation for their birth mothers to give them up! That's an important ethical recognition.   

Roberts is not deserving of any sort of respect here, and is only the latest example of people in position believing themselves above the law, beyond scrutiny and exempt from repercussion.

It all now makes sense.

The circumstances of these two adoptions explain not only why this would be overlooked by an overall sympathetic media, but also why a sitting Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court would not want this information to become public fodder well into his tenure.  Its release and public discussion would discredit Roberts as an impartial judge of the law, and undoubtedly  lead to his impeachment.

This also explains why Roberts would have a means to be blackmailed, and why that leverage would still exist even after the institution of ObamaCare.

... And it has led to flipping the swing-vote on ObamaCare, which fundamentally changed the relationship between citizen and government, making us de facto property of the state, with our relative worth in care and maintenance able to be determined by the government.  Essentially it was a coup without firing a shot, much less needing even an Amendment to the Constitution.

And it is consistent with Obama's Chicago-style politics, that has previously involved opening other sealed <divorce> records in order to win election.

17 posted on 02/10/2013 8:35:02 PM PST by Bratch
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To: DesertRhino
Did pro bono work...

And, to this day, he's still doing pro homo work. Likely queer as a football bat, we might say...

18 posted on 02/10/2013 8:36:49 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: DesertRhino
I'd not heard about his pro bono work. Do you have a link for that info? Thanks.

Is there not one patriot left in our Congress/Government who cannot/will not be blackmailed?

19 posted on 02/10/2013 8:37:17 PM PST by Jane Long
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To: Wisconsinlady

Where’s the blackmail?


20 posted on 02/10/2013 8:38:15 PM PST by Girlene
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To: WXRGina

why did roberts put Orly’s ineligibility case in the hopper so that it could possibly be selected Friday, to be considered by his peers, and himself? seems silly, doesn’t it?


21 posted on 02/10/2013 8:38:15 PM PST by stickywillie (is that a glimmer of hope, or is it just that Dale Carnegie Course?)
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To: dfwgator

Just because the Supreme Court rules something Constitutional, or unconstitutional, does not kill an issue. Had Roberts ruled it unconstitutional, it could be revisited it once Obama installed Democrat judges, with a majority Democrat Supreme Court, where it would have been ruled Constitutional.

With the decision making it the responsibility of Congress, had the Conservative vote turned out and elected a majority Congress, we could have killed Obamacare funding with a simple majority vote.


22 posted on 02/10/2013 8:38:28 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: cardinal4

True dat


23 posted on 02/10/2013 8:40:18 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Wisconsinlady

I wouldn’t be surprised if he was. Like that Southern senator in “The Godfather Part II” who initially opposed then later switched to supporting the Corleone family once they got a scandal on him.


24 posted on 02/10/2013 8:45:49 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: L,TOWM
Anyone that remains believing in just a little shred of decency in perhaps a few people in our various politcal juntas need to either wise up or get some professional help. The US government is the largest criminal enterprise is history and has been that way for the last 20+ years. None of them are clean and if you feel like defending YOUR congressman, senator, governor, or what have you, don’t bother. That just identifies you as part of the problem in my eyes. Your own pet congressman or judge deserves their own lamppost and length of rope right next to the one you might despise...

You are sooo correctomundo.

25 posted on 02/10/2013 8:46:23 PM PST by Digger
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To: Jonty30
Now it’s a matter of winning Congress, so it can be overturned.

Forget that if 15,000,000 illegals are given amensty.

26 posted on 02/10/2013 8:46:29 PM PST by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree with you, he is gay. There are some gay photos of him from his college days which I saw on FR last year.


27 posted on 02/10/2013 8:46:37 PM PST by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: L,TOWM

He betrayed us.I spit on him.He is no Catholic.


28 posted on 02/10/2013 8:52:14 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Wisconsinlady
their blonde hair and fair skin do not seem conventionally Latin American

Lots of Germans and other Europeans in Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay.

29 posted on 02/10/2013 8:52:37 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Wisconsinlady

Just part of the “establishment”, from what I can see of his past. Political flavor seems approximately moderate Repub.

The story of the adoption of the Hispanic/Irish children is actually from a few years ago; I guess the snews blipped it past fairly quickly, and perhaps I was not listening much at that point to the news.

If that issue is real, IMHO, he should not have accepted the nomination (ever see the old Magnum, PI episode with Jose and Miguel Ferrar (Jose played a SCOTUS nominee) ?).

Just goes to show, Repub Presidents can make New World Order-favoring SCOTUS nominations, regardless of whether they know it or not. Another notable “conservative” NWO nominee is Sandra Day O’Connor, a trustee of the board of the Rockefeller Foundation.


30 posted on 02/10/2013 8:52:52 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: El Gato
Lots of Germans and other Europeans in Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay.

A lot of them moved there in the 1944-1945 timeframe.

31 posted on 02/10/2013 8:53:53 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: stickywillie
why did roberts put Orly’s ineligibility case in the hopper so that it could possibly be selected Friday, to be considered by his peers, and himself? seems silly, doesn’t it?

Do you really believe Roberts will cross "Obama" on the eligibilty charge? Come on. Be real.

32 posted on 02/10/2013 8:55:34 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: L,TOWM

L,TOWM's Entire Post!

33 posted on 02/10/2013 8:58:14 PM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Jonty30

UR insane.

Roberts said ANY AND EVERYTHING can be taxed !

Congress repeal it !? They`ll go forward with anything they wish now ! Refuse to eat broccoli ? Special tax. Refuse to use solar energy? Special tax. Refuse to drive electric car? Special tax.

Roberts made sure there was not one single impediment to what the Federal Govt. can tax you for doing and especially, NOT DOING !

Seriously, u need help.


34 posted on 02/10/2013 9:02:16 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Wisconsinlady; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; ...
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35 posted on 02/10/2013 9:04:58 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: WXRGina

why did he open the possibility by placing it there?


36 posted on 02/10/2013 9:15:15 PM PST by stickywillie (is that a glimmer of hope, or is it just that Dale Carnegie Course?)
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To: Jonty30
"Now it’s a matter of winning Congress, so it can be overturned."

What Tax has EVER been overturned?

Once in place, it takes Super Majorities to get through BOTH the House and the Senate, and a Signature from the POTUS.....NEVER going to happen in your lifetime, with the One Party System that we now have.

37 posted on 02/10/2013 9:20:29 PM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: stickywillie

Because he was following proper procedure. It will be denied without comment.


38 posted on 02/10/2013 9:23:03 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

No. The 7 million conservatives who either did not vote, or voted for other, ensuring an Obama win as president, and a Democrat majority Congress, are the ones who need help.


39 posted on 02/10/2013 9:23:41 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: traditional1

You may need a super-majority to overturn the legislation, but you only needed a majority vote to dry up the funding for the legislation.

Obamacare could have rotted, for lack of funding for the next ten years, making it near implementable.


40 posted on 02/10/2013 9:28:17 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Bratch
...and undoubtedly lead to his impeachment...and of course were Roberts impeached, Obama would get to appoint another of his leftwing Kooks to the Court, and the country would be done for sure - maybe Roberts did the best he could to go along with the blackmail, yet leave enough unresolved that further challenges to the law are still probable........
41 posted on 02/10/2013 9:34:28 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Sirius Lee

i would agree but clarify: the gop elite leaders believe in the same kind of power over us as thge socialit libtards, they just believe they’ll do it better or their way raher than the democrats. i don’t lump all repubs into this group, but i do blame the aged, establishment, snug in their leadership power, repubs.


42 posted on 02/10/2013 9:41:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: DesertRhino

“Blackmail,, one more vote.”

If that’s the case, they’ve got him “in the bag” for all the important votes that come up.

Particularly where the Second Amendment is concerned...


43 posted on 02/10/2013 9:49:37 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: DesertRhino

The first thought I had when I saw him on tv at his nomination or invesiture was that he was homosexual. There is a way that their faces get


44 posted on 02/10/2013 9:55:09 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Jonty30

WTF is the matter with you.

Read the ruling and quit deflecting.

Where in the constitution does it say the Govt. can impose a fee aka tax to create a health care system, be it obamadeathcare, medciad or medicare?

Roberts knew full well the Federal Govt. has no, zero, nada, enumerated powers to run a federal pension system , medical system, prescription drug system,etc.

Geez, you people call yourselves Freepers


45 posted on 02/10/2013 10:05:19 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Jonty30; 444Flyer
Now it’s a matter of winning Congress, so it can be overturned.

There is the fantasy Congress, and then there's the real Congress. The latter closely matches the description of the second beast in Revelation, the one with two horns that makes the laws demanding prostration to the first beast.

What else to expect from a lawless regime?

Chief Justice Roberts gave power to Obama and Congress, kind of like the dragon in Revelation 13.

46 posted on 02/10/2013 10:13:36 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: L,TOWM; Old Sarge

Ditto.


47 posted on 02/11/2013 2:46:37 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Jonty30
"You may need a super-majority to overturn the legislation, but you only needed a majority vote to dry up the funding"

Sure....but you KNOW how this works: Executive Orders.....cut funding for Obamacare, and they would just make it up by shuffling money from OTHER accounts, and in the case of these Usurpers, it would be the Military that would be the loser. Regulatory Agencies up the ass, have un-told Billions to spread around, as do all the Czars and their bloated budgets and staffs.

If it were so simple to "de-fund", there would have been efforts to choke-off money for Czars and Regulatory Agencies, already.

We have a one-party government, where vote-buying with tax money and destruction of Free Enterprise is the Agenda, and it cannot be stopped when there is NO ONE representing We The People (unless you are one of the 47% parasitic government-dependents; then YOU have "representation" to keep you voting for more handouts).

48 posted on 02/11/2013 4:30:27 AM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: stickywillie

Obama told Roberts to finally end this ineligibility thing once and for all before someone in his cabinet turns on him.


49 posted on 02/11/2013 5:17:46 AM PST by charlie72
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To: Bender2

Bender, mah man! Good to see your take on things!


50 posted on 02/11/2013 7:45:36 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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