Skip to comments.Five Million College Grads in Jobs that Don't Require a High School Diploma
Posted on 02/11/2013 8:05:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
A new study finds that 48% of recent college graduates are now in jobs that do not require a bachelors degree, and 37% hold jobs that require just a high school diploma.
The study, titled Why Are Recent College Graduates Underemployed? University Enrollments and Labor Market Realities," was conducted by the Center for College Affordability and Productivity using employment data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
"Student-loan programs and federal assistance programs are based on some sort of implicit assumption that we're training people for the jobs of the future," says Richar Vedder, director of the center and a professor emeritus at Ohio University. "In reality, a lot of them are not."
The study found that the proportion of over-educated workers is on the rise. In 1970, less than 1% of taxi drivers and 2% of firefighters held college degrees. Today, over 15% do in each profession. Moreover, five million college graduates are now in jobs that dont even require a high school diploma.
Kristopher Del Campo, 23 and a senior majoring in psychology at DePaul University, says that many of his classmates fear todays dismal job market and are instead opting for graduate school, which will make them even more overqualified for jobs...
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There’s no requirement that POTUS needs to graduate from HS, nor have ANY understanding of American History.
I have ZERO sympathy...
I know a PhD in Education selling used cars (and doing rather well at that).
The simple fact is that a lot of the jobs that require a college degree, really don’t. Seems that a good many college degrees are more a means of keeping professors employed than anything.
Someone with reasonable intelligence and ambition can learn just about anything on the job. I’m not going to trust a brain surgeon with OJT but I’m a high school dropout who learned to program, operate, and maintain robotics while managing a paint room full of painters.
College professors and their students should be on the cutting edge pushing the envelope in science and technology.
I guess this is why we need more Indian EE’s. US College grads just aren’t prepared for the real job opportunities. Maybe the next generation will get the message.
Ya think there may be something wrong here?
Many times, the first thing they ask you when you apply in person or online is if you have a bachelor’s degree. For jobs that really don’t require one.
Most entry-level jobs could be done without a college degree, the point is to eventually get promoted.
And there are plenty of high school grads doing work that should require a degree.
>And for every single one of them that voted for Obozo,,,
>I have ZERO sympathy...
Not all college-grads are “young and dumb”, it took me a decade [almost] to get my bachelors (got interrupted a couple times w/ deployments).
Another question is what’s “recent”, within the last 2 years, 5, six-months?
The best engineer I ever worked with was a guy who worked 30 years on the shop floor before deciding to take night classes so he could work in the air conditioned design lab.
He actually understood that the things he designed had to translate into the real world through processes that had to be completed in a matter of seconds rather than hours.
I have seen many a machinist become a programmer on his own.
Amen to that as well brother.
The best design engineers are folks that started repairing hardware.
It’s kind of like being a mustang officer.
There are lots of guys with book smarts that just don’t see some of the real world problems.
I went to work in a bindery as a temp doing line labor and ended up as the sole operator and set up man on the most expensive complicated 3 knife trimmer in the shop.
I spent 3 weeks training with an angry east German who kept throwing my tools in the trash because they weren’t “minimeters”. I didn’t feel like I learned anything but when he left I was amazed to realize that I knew that machine inside and out.
I saw a sign once for a table waiting job that said “liberal arts majors need not apply”
I always get to train the new supervisors and engineers.
I think I am getting ripped off LOL
There are advantages to training your next boss.
Yes, I suppose there are.
Quite frankly, I have turned down many promotions.
I know I am not made for management.
I haven’t the patience or demeanor for it.
10% of your people take up 90% of your time.
I would say something that was not politically correct.
Also, I always tell the new manager “congratulations, now you are going to get ****ed from both ends” LOL
We have a you fellow now that I trained, he will go very far in management, he has exceptional people skills and knows how to motivate people without upsetting them.
He is gifted at it, and I told him so.
“The best design engineers are folks that started repairing hardware.”
The best engineers are the hot rodders of the 40s and50s.
If you wanted to go fast, you had to design it and then build it and then modify it until you had a record holder.
When our generation is dead and gone there won’t be anyone left with the ability to design and build from scratch.
We’re dying off fast and i’m glad I won’t be around to see the results!
You can’t find tool and die makers anymore.
Is there enough demand for it to make it profitable?
There will be when the SHTF.
“Is there enough demand for it to make it profitable? “
A good one can make well over $100K, and never be out of work.
Many folks are looking for them.
Makes me wish I had a bit more experience [and training] with mechanical things.
Really? That'd be nice; to bad I have neither the skill nor the money needed to start an operation up.
Welders are in demand too.
Well, we know that the jobs don't come with the phrase "Welcome to Walmart" because Walmarts have eliminated the store greeters. So, they must have jobs that come with the phrase "You want fries with that?"
You can pick up decent trades with relative ease.
I'd probably end up immolating myself... :/
I’ve done that. LOL
At least partially.
“Why, anybody can have a brain. That’s a very mediocre commodity. Every pusillanimous creature that crawls on the Earth or slinks through slimy seas has a brain. Back where I come from, we have universities, seats of great learning, where men go to become great thinkers. And when they come out, they think deep thoughts and with no more brains than you have! But they have one thing you haven’t got - a diploma.”
There it is, right there.
High learning is a good thing.
But many a man was taught by high minded professors that he must think within “the box of dreams”
Global warming is a fine example.
Empirical evidence is dismissed out of hand.
Everything before “but” is BS. You’re not presenting much of a case for High Learning.
High learning is fine, Many a Texas rancher has read Kipling and Socrates.
The notion that a piece of paper from a 3rd party makes one man more educated than the other is folly.
What I find with most higher education is that it teaches people to work within taught parameters that reflect the teacher.
Many of our academics are brain washers, more than teachers
Oh they teach the math, but that is not what they emphasize.
They emphasis systems of thought.
We will take the 2nd amendment for example.
Liberal college “perfessors” will dote over what the meaning of is, “Is” by citing the passage about a well armed “militia” while ignoring personal communiques on the 2nd amendment by the authors of the 2nd that clarify the matter with certainty.
If you dare challenge them they say the evidence can not be considered as it is not part of the Amendment, it is simply a personal letter.
You're drifting. The first time around you averred that the teaching of the "high minded professors" was actually deleterious.
Now you see, right there, you should have said ... "is", is ... you see? you see? ...
Don't put words in my mouth...
“The simple fact is that a lot of the jobs that require a college degree, really dont. Seems that a good many college degrees are more a means of keeping professors employed than anything.”
especially true in graphic design. you don’t need a master’s degree to teach intro any graphics software. rather have a teacher with no degree and 5 years experience in the software. most graphic design degree requirements are so artists who can’t make a living selling crap they call art can get a job. i have been to cherry creek arts festival and wouldn’t buy 40% of the stuff and would have to be paid to put another 40% of the stuff in my house. remaining 20% is quite good and i have bought some in the past.
When it comes to art, its no longer about quality, its about ideology.
Im not going to trust a brain surgeon with OJT
Actually brain surgery and most others is mostly OJT
I wondered about that as I haven't seen the familiar old faces lately.
Maybe not financial suicide, but prices surely will go up to compensate for the increased losses. When I was a night stocker, they did away with night-time greeters and we started to have flat screens by the handful walk out of the store. In one case, the state police stopped a car for some reason and returned three screens to us that had gone out the door just minutes before.
There's a great line from "The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai" that goes something like this:
A bunch of doctors are operating on a guy's brain when one starts probing with his finger. The Top Man says, "No, no, no! Don't touch that! You don't know what it may be connected to!"
Oddly enough, in a lapse of logic I will never understand, around the same time that Walmart ended having store greeters, they also said that they would not pursue any shoplifters boosting anything below a value of $300.
And, people wonder why Walmart is about to lose its discounter rating because of their price hikes!