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Our murder rates are screaming the truth but the Democrat controlled media is smothering it
Coach is Right ^ | 2/13/13 | Derrick Hollenbeck

Posted on 02/13/2013 9:36:03 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

When Jamie Fox gleefully spoke about getting to “kill all the White people” in his latest film, it was ignored by the Leftist media the way parents ignore the babble of an angry three year old. To Liberals, Blacks are tall children incapable of committing any wrongful act because their great, great grandparents were slaves.

This paternalistic attitude may have been necessary and defendable for actual slaves set free after the Civil War, but by the dawn of the 20th century the grandchildren of Black slaves were moving into the middle class in some parts of the country. Woodrow Wilson and W.E.B. Dubois changed that with lies and deceit and put Blacks back on their knees where they have been at the mercy of Democrats ever since.

With the election of Barack Obama the relationship Blacks have toward Whites is changing again. The increase of Black on White crime that is not being talked about by the White Democrat controlled media is...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackrace; christopherdorner; crimerates; fbi; guncontrol; jamiefox; murderrates; secondamendment

1 posted on 02/13/2013 9:36:14 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax
Let me get this out of the way first...

That's Racist!

Okay... now back on planet Earth, this is one of the most refreshing things I've read in... well, ever, really.

These statistics are quite shocking, and it should be little wonder to any Christian white male why blacks are viewed as a "protected class" among the Obama regime.

They're only going to become bolder, folks, and if gun control grows to where the Liberals want it, you can bet the farm that black on white crime will explode in a way that none of us can fathom.

It is for this reason that I will NEVER be disarmed. I'd rather die at the hands of a thug trying to harm my family or a government trying to take the defensive weapons from my hands than go about my life disarmed and praying that some feral pack of black teenagers leaves me alone and enjoys a game of "Knock Out" on the elderly woman behind me.

2 posted on 02/13/2013 9:45:40 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Black violent crime, whether perptrated on whites or other blacks is a plague in this country. It’s epidemic. In my hometown,if you remove blacks from the equation, our murder rate would be near zero.


3 posted on 02/13/2013 9:54:13 AM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." Thomas Jefferso)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Quit dwelling on the small stuff, which the democrat-socialists throw out to distract you, and look at the big picture. The fact that gun control is being debated is a HUGE sign that the left is scared shitless of what the half of the country who knows what they’re up to with their socialist agenda. People are scared, and they know forces are in play to take their livelyhoods and freedoms away. After the last election, people bought enough weapons and ammunition to outfit the ENTIRE indian and chinese armies. The only way the leftists can go up against those kind of odds is to do the slow frog boil, little bit by little bit, and get outside help. In the end it doesn’t even matter, because they can throw all of the UN troops, chinese, illegals, or the free shit army at us, and they wouldn’t even put a dent in the abiliy of Americans to fight for their home.


4 posted on 02/13/2013 10:00:31 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Woodrow Wilson and W.E.B. Dubois changed that with lies and deceit and put Blacks back on their knees where they have been at the mercy of Democrats ever since.

While that statement sounds over the top, it is quite actually true. There are a number of black businesses and even whole neighborhoods which were burned to the ground while Wilson's administration quite literally looked the other way. These were located in a number of places stretching from Oklahoma to Miami mostly, but not exclusively, in the south.

Warren G. Harding who, incidentally, has more proven black blood than BO has, put an end to most of these atrocities by simply enforcing existing laws. Not that the modern successors to W.E.B. Dubois will ever give Harding an ounce of credit for it . . .

5 posted on 02/13/2013 10:06:22 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Oldpuppymax
Articles like this need to be frequently published and widely spread.

Whites simply cannot grasp the depth of resentment by blacks towards whites. It is not slavery that creates the resentment, but their own widespread deficiencies in intelligence and poor impulse control. They see their miserable accomplishments compared to other races and conclude their problems are outside themselves. The problem is neurological not psychosocial or economic. Everyone knows this to be true; but cannot face the facts. A great tragedy.

6 posted on 02/13/2013 10:06:33 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Oldpuppymax

EVERYONE knows this.

But they are too scared/guilty/politically correct to say it out loud.

I would like to chalenge the most PC liberal out there... the most un-racist hipster there is... to drive down Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills and ask some people on the corner for directions. Now drive through Compton and ask some people standing on the corner for directions.

Someone who is not racist should be willing to do this.

BUT SHHHHHH!!! Don’t talk about it. SHHHH!!! Lets just continue to look the other way. Its OK if we get shot/killed/robbed/raped as long as we don’t offend anyone.


7 posted on 02/13/2013 10:29:02 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!!)
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To: factoryrat

I think the big push for gun control is simply because few people are willing to speak of who is committing most murders, by firearms and otherwise. Our murder rates would be as low as Europe’s if you looked only at those committed by white people. Illinois without Chicago has a murder rate not far from Finland’s. Vermont has the some of the most liberal gun laws in the US and its murder rate is tiny.

When most blacks lived in the South, or in segregated communities in the North, they were in effect contained, for want of better words, and violence within their community didn’t matter much to white people, and neither did white violence against blacks. The country at large had no objections to white people having guns - their crime rate was low. (Black people in the South would have very reasonable objections.)

Now that the country has experienced the black Great Migration, and desegregation, and a relative increase in the black population, containment no longer exists, the political focus switches to control, and it must be control of everybody.

Here is acknowledging that the black crime rate was much lower sixty years ago than it is now, that evil crazy white boys have done a tremendous job seizing the spotlight in the gun control campaign, and offering my apologies to any Freepers I have offended.


8 posted on 02/13/2013 11:11:27 AM PST by heartwood
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To: Oldpuppymax

bkmk


9 posted on 02/13/2013 11:35:37 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Vigilanteman

Since when has Harding been proven to have any “black blood” at all? An ancestor of his was alleged to have some black ancestry but for all anyone knows that was a complete fabrication (made to discredit him at a time of extreme racial prejudice). Harding was aware of that allegation but did not know if there was any truth to it or not. He had no children. Has someone done DNA testing on some of his relatives and come up with proof of African ancestry?


10 posted on 02/13/2013 12:41:58 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
...their own widespread deficiencies in intelligence...

Are you seriously attempting to sell the generality that blacks are, on average, less intelligent than other races?

I can well understand (and accept) the fact that a large percentage of blacks are ill-educated and are downwardly acculturated, but less intelligent by way of genetics? It's just not true.

11 posted on 02/13/2013 5:36:46 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Oldpuppymax.


12 posted on 02/13/2013 5:55:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Windflier; AEMILIUS PAULUS
I can well understand (and accept) the fact that a large percentage of blacks are ill-educated and are downwardly acculturated, but less intelligent by way of genetics? It's just not true

Link that?

13 posted on 02/13/2013 6:11:33 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Whites simply cannot grasp the depth of resentment by blacks towards whites.

I really don't care what they think of me. I do my level best to avoid them, and am pretty successful at it, living in a rural area as I do.

14 posted on 02/13/2013 7:16:25 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: bigheadfred
Link that?

Not sure I understand the question. Are you asking me to provide proof for what I said in my previous comment?

15 posted on 02/13/2013 8:45:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: bigheadfred; AEMILIUS PAULUS; Windflier
I can well understand (and accept) the fact that a large percentage of blacks are ill-educated and are downwardly acculturated, but less intelligent by way of genetics? It's just not true - Windflier
Link that?
If you search the “Flynn Effect” you will learn that “intelligence” has been increasing over time. To such an extent that, if extrapolated back into the Nineteenth Century, it would suggest that America used to be a nation of idiots. We know that isn’t true, but IQ measurement over all the developed world is consistent that “intelligence” has been going up.
That doesn’t directly answer your question, but it is suggestive. The point is that your actual intelligence, and mine, is focused in a way that the IQ testers reward, much more so than our ancestors’ intelligence was 100 years ago. On average.
The bottom line is that population IQ scores are cultural artifacts. You and I might have the same culture but, FWIW, different IQ scores. But populations with different cultures will have distinct IQ scores even with the same genetic base. Thomas Sowell uses the example of “Blacks” from the Caribbean vs. “Blacks” native to America. They have different cultures even tho both have similar general genetic backgrounds - and American blacks call Caribbean blacks “Black Jews.”

Another way to look at it is that California used to use so much "affirmative action” in college admissions that blacks who were qualified to go to a middle-of-the-road college, graduate, and have a respectable career were “privileged” to go to state colleges where the average SAT score was 200 points better than the “privileged” black entrants. The result was that the best black students were in over their heads and flunked out / dropped out - thus failing an “IQ” test - and did not end up with credentials to the middle class. About six or eight years ago, the colleges were dragged kicking and screaming into a more neutral admissions framework - and one class of colleges now graduate more blacks (and another class of colleges admits and graduates more Asians) than before. Jesse Jackson liked the old way better, because it produced more alienated blacks who would grow up just like him.


16 posted on 02/14/2013 4:49:30 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; AEMILIUS PAULUS; Windflier

Yes Windflier. I would be interested in reading any material you can show me. Not that I couldn’t look myself, but what you specifically read.

I’ve seen some studies, now largely discredited (of course) that IQ’s in predominantly moslem countries is declining.

I’ll link that later if you want, but I have to get to work.


17 posted on 02/14/2013 5:34:19 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Windflier

Check ‘The Bell Curve’ by Charles Murray.


18 posted on 02/14/2013 6:11:40 AM PST by BillM (.)
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To: bigheadfred; AEMILIUS PAULUS
Yes Windflier. I would be interested in reading any material you can show me.

Excuse me? AEMILIUS PAULUS made the claim that blacks have lower intelligence than other races. I believe the burden of proof is on him to validate that statement.

If you're backing him in this argument, then you share that burden.

19 posted on 02/14/2013 7:35:33 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Yes I do believe that this largely undefined thing called intelligence is based upon neurology. Further, I do believe the black as a group "ended up with the short end of the stick."

The dominant thesis today is solidly based upon the democratic, progressive egalitarian ethos. Such ethos is so deep in 2013 America that those that hold to the doctrines flowing from it would kill any person bringing up contrary evidence-if they could. While the holders of such an ethos can not kill a person they can and do get them deprived of their income. Holders of a belief contrary to the dominant ethos are not denied employment, they are slandered, labled "racist" "homophobe" anti woman etc. etc.

No matter what evidence is produced, what arguments are put forward. It is automatic that the democratic, progressive, egalitarian individuals presently in control are so convinced that nurture rules immediately refuse to even allow such evidence to be produced or presented. No matter what observations are made and reported, no matter what paper pencil tests are administered, no matter how many trillions are spent to no avail such facts are ignored. The thesis that blacks do not do as well as other races is established by the fact that intelligence testing with all its faults has consistently suported that thesis for over 100 years. Actual black performance in things intellectual consistently is below other groups; We have paid trillions to improve black performance to no avail. Courts have compelled colleges and universities to admit blacks who did not qualify and to take steps up to lowering standards to ensure blacks did not flunk out. Courts have required the States to make special districts to ensure blacks enter government producing such jems as Maxine Waters, hell holes like Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia. In short, reality and simple observation produces the evidence of black performance. Part of the fallicious egalitarian, progressive, democratic reasoning arises from the fact that intelligence in general follows a normal curve. This curve tells us that there will be blacks that would be a genius in any group. Therefore, it is concluded that if some are in the genius category every black has potential to score 115 on an IQ test. Anyone producing evidence of low black group performance is deemed to hate blacks-Nonsense! Research should be directed towards a neurochemical solution-there are hints that such a solution is possible. The tremendous spending of peoples money on false theories that "Nurture" is the cause is ruining our country and degrading the black.

20 posted on 02/14/2013 8:38:05 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS; Windflier

And I agree with A P.

All I was asking Windflier is to link me to any articles you have read to support your “It’s just not true.” If you can’t or don’t want to that is fine.

Years back there were some articles on the web correlating declining IQ in moslem countries to their inbreeding. I can’t seem to find that same information now.


21 posted on 02/14/2013 11:40:31 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred
Years back there were some articles on the web correlating declining IQ in moslem countries to their inbreeding.

I've read about widespread inbreeding among Muslims, and can agree that the practice is very probably causing a decline in average intelligence amongst them, but that cause/effect pattern doesn't exist in any significant presence among American blacks.

Again, the burden of proof isn't on me, because I'm not the one making the claim that blacks have lower average intelligence than other racial groups. I don't see any evidence of your assertion, though I readily admit that a large percentage of blacks have educational and cultural deficits.

22 posted on 02/14/2013 4:55:25 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier; conservatism_IS_compassion; AEMILIUS PAULUS

What interests me is what it is the gives that spark that drives the climb and sustaining, and indeed, the continuing rise, of civilization.

All around the world there is evidence of great innovations, great ideas, and engineering feats, whether ancient or modern, but very little in Africa.

Cultural and education “deficits” (especially in America) exist for what reason?

IMO, they are merely an excuse.

Not saying if I was living in a tropical paradise that my interest in “improving” things would be that great. But presented with information on how to improve things, I’m pretty sure I would use that information, with capacity.


23 posted on 02/14/2013 5:34:03 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Yes I do believe that this largely undefined thing called intelligence is based upon neurology. Further, I do believe the black as a group "ended up with the short end of the stick."

I see. Your assertion simply boils down to your personal belief. That's fine. Unless the Marxists in Washington make a law against it, you're allowed to hold any belief you like.

24 posted on 02/14/2013 6:31:53 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: bigheadfred
What interests me is what it is the gives that spark that drives the climb and sustaining, and indeed, the continuing rise, of civilization.

All around the world there is evidence of great innovations, great ideas, and engineering feats, whether ancient or modern, but very little in Africa.

I share that curiosity with you. I've also wondered what forces and historical events could have created a continent of handicapped people (not that they all are - not in the least).

I don't know nearly enough about the history of Africa to formulate a hypothesis, but it's my guess that there were indeed some sort of forces which overwhelmed those people's innate abilities to innovate, progress, and prosper, as the peoples of other continents did.

Maybe one day when I'm retired and have the time to indulge such curiosities, I'll find the answer.

25 posted on 02/14/2013 6:39:51 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Yeah, when I retire too.

There are historical facts that do point to a continent of handicapped people. Mostly, from mid last millenium to now—the rise of islam.

I had the great fortune to spend a year in Egypt just after Sadat as assassinated. moslems are (some) of the most racially motivated people I have ever met.

One told me one day that he couldn’t understand how “his” people could have lost the knowledge that created the monuments of ancient Egypt. I avoided that fight.

That being said, I’m just a poor farmboy turned cabinetmaker. But I had educational opportunities to be something else. I was 75 credits into an engineering degree (hard rock mining) when I went to Egypt. After that experience I changed my mind.

And the quest is to understand. I am an info junkie. My question to you wasn’t because I was being antithetical. I am merely interested in any sites or siting of evidence to support or deny statements made by others, or yourself.

What also dismays me is the intentional destruction, passing off, rebuttal without clinical proof, or burying of any information that doesn’t fit the current political climate.

One thing to consider is the “Out Of Africa” meme. I really don’t care if “everyone” originated in Africa. But the ones that left not only changed the world. They rule it.


26 posted on 02/14/2013 7:50:12 PM PST by bigheadfred
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