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VANITY: Every Website I've Logged Onto Today Has Asked Me to Re-Enter My Password
Personal Observation | 2/14/2013 | Chad N. Freud

Posted on 02/14/2013 2:17:43 PM PST by Chad N. Freud

This is my first thread. I'm only posting it to see if any other FReeper had the same experience today, yesterday, or maybe tomorrow.

Today, all three of the websites I routinely log into that require a password (including FR) returned an error message, saying that I needed to re-enter the password because it was incorrect.

Now, one website I could put down to typing error. Two, maybe bad typing still. Three, seems suspicious to me. These are websites I log into every day. On all three I happened to mis-type the password in one day out of thousands? I'm suspicious.

Well, maybe it's possible, but if it happens to anyone else, keep it in mind. And let me know. Thanks.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: tinfoil
And you know what? I WAS logged in!
1 posted on 02/14/2013 2:17:49 PM PST by Chad N. Freud
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To: Chad N. Freud

Do you think there’s some kind of hidden sympbolism behind this?


2 posted on 02/14/2013 2:19:45 PM PST by steerpike100
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To: Chad N. Freud

Do you think there’s some kind of hidden symbolism behind this?


3 posted on 02/14/2013 2:20:08 PM PST by steerpike100
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To: Chad N. Freud

Sometimes, a bunch of cookies expire together, logging you out of multiple websites. I have noticed this too occasionally.


4 posted on 02/14/2013 2:22:15 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: Chad N. Freud

Maybe you have a key sticking so you think you are typing it right but something isn’t entering.


5 posted on 02/14/2013 2:23:12 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Chad N. Freud

Did you do the recent Microsoft updates recently?

I did yesterday.

My FR browser is IE based and some of the updates were for IE. I had to re-log in on my laptop today. I assume that is the reason.


6 posted on 02/14/2013 2:24:50 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: steerpike100

No, silly: I’m imagining an easy code someone could write, that, once on your computer, can get you to provide your password once again for them by mimicing that particular website’s error page.


7 posted on 02/14/2013 2:25:29 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

Website login status is usually stored in “cookie” files in the web browser temporary folder. Did you accidentally or purposefully delete your browser history (cookies included)? Cookies do expire too.


8 posted on 02/14/2013 2:27:44 PM PST by brandon24
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To: Chad N. Freud

Did you clear your browser cache....that will usually remove cookies, and you will have to login the next time you visit any site.


9 posted on 02/14/2013 2:27:44 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: steerpike100

No, silly: I’m imagining an easy code someone could write, that, once on your computer, can get you to provide your password once again for them by mimicing that particular website’s error page.


10 posted on 02/14/2013 2:28:55 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

This loss of stored passwords can happen on a Windows machine if you clean the registry.


11 posted on 02/14/2013 2:30:59 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

Are you SURE that’s all you’re imagining...hmmmm?


12 posted on 02/14/2013 2:30:59 PM PST by steerpike100
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To: Chad N. Freud

It’s W’s fault.


13 posted on 02/14/2013 2:31:17 PM PST by shelterguy
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To: Chad N. Freud

Do you have a “pay-for” firewall and virus/malware protection?


14 posted on 02/14/2013 2:31:59 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Chad N. Freud

Double post three minutes apart. Dude - yer ‘puter is haunted. Call Ghostbusters - stat.


15 posted on 02/14/2013 2:32:21 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

Did you watch Obama last night?


16 posted on 02/14/2013 2:32:46 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

Whoops - I double-posted because I didn’t see my reply to #3 appear right away. I wasn’t replying to the later suggestions.

No, I didn’t clear my cookies, but:

Yes, I did let Windows update itself yesterday; and maybe I do have a key sticking.

These are good suggestions. Thanks!


17 posted on 02/14/2013 2:33:05 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: Chad N. Freud
Today, all three of the websites I routinely log into that require a password (including FR) returned an error message, saying that I needed to re-enter the password because it was incorrect.

Caps lock key?

But that would only explain the first site. So, it must be your typing.

Or did you mean only that you were required to log in unexpectedly? That would be explained by your having cleaned out your cookies or switched to a new browser and / or computer.

Also, some sites expire cookies after a while and require you to re-login. E.g., banks and brokerages will expire you after some minutes of inactivity. And Google requires you to re-login every couple of weeks.

18 posted on 02/14/2013 2:34:11 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Chad N. Freud

And calling another FReeper “silly” could be interpreted as accusing him of being gay. I’d watch it.


19 posted on 02/14/2013 2:34:27 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

I think you’ve lost your cookies.


20 posted on 02/14/2013 2:34:36 PM PST by toast
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To: Chad N. Freud

no, but I saved a boatload of money on my hotel room last night


21 posted on 02/14/2013 2:37:32 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Chad N. Freud

“Did you clear your browser cache....that will usually remove cookies, and you will have to login the next time you visit any site.”

Very logical.

Please note, though, that I am not talking about having to enter my password once. I’m suspicious about having to enter it twice. Three websites said the first time didn’t take, or wasn’t entered correctly. OK. Maybe human error. But three times on one day. Three different websites. No other typos occurring: sernames, websites — everything else entering fine. Only passwords need to be re-entered.

I’ll live with it, since there’s nothing I can do about it. But it’s weird, to me.

I did not clean my registry, or delete a cache on purpose, unless the Windows update did that.

I like “W’s fault” as the most plausible answer.

But, gee, I seem to have attracted some harshness from steerpike100!


22 posted on 02/14/2013 2:41:33 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: don-o

“And calling another FReeper “silly” could be interpreted as accusing him of being gay.”

I fail to see the connection. Wouldn’t using the word “silly” make me look more gay than the person I was talking to? I will watch it, if it is explained to me.


23 posted on 02/14/2013 2:44:39 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

And I’ll stipulate:
If no one else has this same experience, forget the whole thing. Occam’s Razor will say it was just me.


24 posted on 02/14/2013 2:48:11 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

It’s possible that a number of cookies were deleted, or maybe even all of them, which would account for having to re-enter the passwords.

I delete my cookies from time to time—in fact about once a week—but I make an exception for websites that I use frequently and where I have entered passwords. Otherwise, you have to enter them all over again after each deletion. I clean out my cookies mainly to remove the ones from sites I just happened to visit once or twice. For instance, you get cookies from news sites if you visit them from FR to read the complete story, and that can add up to hundreds of cookies if you don’t clean them out from time to time.


25 posted on 02/14/2013 2:53:25 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Chad N. Freud
This EXACT same thing has happened to me today.

I frequent 2 different car forums (I have a 72 Corvette, and a 65 Dodge Dart), and BOTH required that I log in. I haven't had to login to those forums in a VERY long time.

I also had to log into Facebook - I hadn't had to log into it for a long time also.

I just looked at my update history (Start -> All Programs -> Windows Update -> View update history) and there where 10 updates that went in last night at 3am (I leave my PC always on).

It's disconcerting, because typical behavior of a key mapping virus is to delete your cookies so that you are forced to log into your web accounts, such as banking. The virus can then map your user id's and passwords as you are forced to login.

Can you see if you had the same updates go in last night? The ones I had were:




Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool - February 2013 (KB890830)

Security Update for Windows 7 (KB2778344)

Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 SP1 x86 (KB2789645)

Update for Outlook 2003 Junk E-mail Filter (KB2767887)

Security Update for Windows 7 (KB2799494)

Security Update for Windows 7 (KB2790655)

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 9 for Windows 7 (KB2792100)

Security Update for Internet Explorer 9 for Windows 7 (KB2797052)

Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on XP, Server 2003, Vista, Windows 7, Server 2008 x86 (KB2789642)

Security Update for Windows 7 (KB2790113)
26 posted on 02/14/2013 3:05:03 PM PST by MMaschin
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To: toast
"...I think you’ve lost your cookies..."


27 posted on 02/14/2013 3:14:29 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: don-o

RLOL!!!!


28 posted on 02/14/2013 3:16:02 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Chad N. Freud
I fail to see the connection. Wouldn’t using the word “silly” make me look more gay than the person I was talking to? I will watch it, if it is explained to me.

The evolution of the word "gay" is a fascinating thing. A few centuries ago, it meant "silly". Then it meant "happy and carefree". Then it meant "homosexual". Today's young have changed it to mean "lame" or "weak".

So I don't know if calling someone "silly" is a gay attempt at sounding gay but if it is said by a gay person I suppose they wouldn't feel gay about the overtones of your choice of words.

29 posted on 02/14/2013 3:23:25 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: OrangeHoof

That


30 posted on 02/14/2013 3:46:17 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

Check your keyboard for sticking keys or if it’s wireless change the battery.


31 posted on 02/14/2013 3:46:20 PM PST by RavenLooneyToon (Tail gunner Joe was right.)
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29 responses and no one tried the old “freepmail me the details so I can have my Nigerian friends who are bankers, royalty and computer wizards fix it for you. They will need info for a normally secure site, like bank or investment account to do a proper test...”?

where has all the silliness gone? Obammy’s fault!

32 posted on 02/14/2013 3:55:15 PM PST by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: OrangeHoof

29 responses and no one tried the old “freepmail me the details so I can have my Nigerian friends who are bankers, royalty and computer wizards fix it for you. They will need info for a normally secure site, like bank or investment account to do a proper test...”?

where has all the silliness gone? Obammy’s fault!


33 posted on 02/14/2013 3:55:37 PM PST by John Galt's cousin (WTF? We couldn't rescue four men in Benghazi? Is our military IMPOTENT? ( /s ))
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To: Chad N. Freud

If it happened today, it’s because Dorner. If it had happened earlier, because Sandy Hook.


34 posted on 02/14/2013 4:15:35 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: rlmorel
"...I think you’ve lost your cookies..."


35 posted on 02/14/2013 4:51:16 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Here once the embattled farmers stood... And fired the shot heard round the world.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I think 1rudeboy may be on the right wavelength.

“I don’t know if calling someone “silly” is a gay attempt at sounding gay but if it is said by a gay person I suppose they wouldn’t feel gay about the overtones of your choice of words” makes my head spin.


36 posted on 02/14/2013 4:57:42 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: RavenLooneyToon

Thank you.


37 posted on 02/14/2013 5:03:05 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: Chad N. Freud

Well, silly FR folks (if that won’t be interpreted wrong), my vanity inquiry has fizzed. If any of you find yourself having to enter a password twice — twice, not once — on a site which you visit every day, and presumably know the correct password to, please remember that the same thing happened to me. If not, please disregard.


38 posted on 02/14/2013 5:15:11 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: MMaschin; Chad N. Freud
Can you see if you had the same updates go in last night? The ones I had were:

Mine were all XP-related updates. Rebooted after installing and did not have any issues.

But I use only FireFox and had to log in to everything last fall. Tried everything to avoid re-entering passwords, even here on FR. Finally I started a new profile that didn't have that problem when I came across the very simple solution.

Firefox: Tools>>Options>>Privacy>>History
Check: "Accept cookies from sites"
On the line with "Keep until:," Select in menu: "they expire"

I had selected the menu "I close FireFox" which deleted them. No further problems after that.

39 posted on 02/14/2013 5:18:04 PM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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To: CedarDave

Thanks. A real response. I don’t use FireFox, but I am becoming interested in it after reading so many threads on how it does not fall victim to these kinds of things.

I haven’t had the same problem since I rebooted, either, but I’m using Windows. Beginning to wish I had FireFox.


40 posted on 02/14/2013 5:24:13 PM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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