Skip to comments.Lawmakers "accidentally" legalize warrantless invasion of gun owner's homes
Posted on 02/22/2013 10:21:02 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
Lawmakers in Washington State have accidentally written a bill permitting police to invade private homes for the purpose of confiscating illegal guns and accessories, such as magazines which hold over 10 rounds. (1)
According to Senate Bill 5737, introduced on February 13th by Democrat State Senators Murray, Kohl-Welles and Kline, no one may possess an assault weapon or the combination of a semi-automatic pistol or rifle capable of using a detachable magazine AND any magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds of ammo.
Happily, however, you ARE allowed to possess an UNLOADED assault weapon for the purpose of permanently relinquishing it to a law enforcement agency of the state. (1 P6)
Naturally, the statute would NOT apply to police...
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This is what they’re going to continue trying, folks. All it will take is one oversight on the part of a representative or a media toad, one of these laws gets implemented, et voila! Instant criminal.
They did something similar with the Patient Unaffordable Death Act (You have to pass it to find out what’s in it, right Nan?).
Uh, how would the sheriff know which houses to “inspect” annually? Does washington state have weapons registration? Which will, of course, stop all criminal activity. At least that is what the radical left wing extremist liberal demokkkrat scumbags claim. Still waiting for them to explain how any of this crap will reduce/hinder/stop criminal activity. Crickets!
All it will take is a whisper from someone who claims he/she saw a twenty round magazine in your house...And there goes the family dogs and maybe some of the human inhabitants of the house...
Sure, there may be records of what you buy, but private citizens are not required to keep paper work for guns they may sell or trade - which is, coincidentally, what I did with all of mine - traded them for a table saw - to some guy I met at Dunkin Donuts. Guns are bad - table saws are good.
They’ll force a registry the same way they did with fully autos. Bascially make it a federal crime unless you have the tax stamp by X date and no way to register something past X date.
Over a generation the full autos have dried up considerably.
I doubt if it was an error or accident. They will just say “oh well” and let it stand.
Full Autos have been a better investment than anything else you could have bought in 1986.
> Who is writing all these laws for the demoRats to pass?
Soros comes to mind.
With a bit of luck, someone snuck that in there with the intention of getting the entire law tossed out on Constitutional grounds.
Seriously, the Rats are getting desperate. Obama is even recruiting peasant victims to exploit for support of gun laws. I nearly fell over when he blamed an inanimate object for causing violence during the SOTU address. To pimp out victims while ignoring the real perpetrator is beyond twisted and he should catch way more hell for doing so.
In the end, they have to blame the gun. Most of these crimes are committed by his supporters and the poverty slaves his part keeps in chains. How dare he attack is own.
yup. My sister wanted to take a picture of my uh.........collection and I told her NO. For sure would have been posted on her facebook page. Sadly, they were lost when Mt. St. Helens erupted. It was a delayed reaction of course.
Accidently my arse. They knew that was written into the bill.
Your children will tell their teachers. Your friends, ex-wives and neighbors will cash in on those "Report an illegal gun, earn $1000" anonymous tip lines.
“Lawmakers in Washington State have accidentally written a bill...”
Accident, my arsenic. Just like all those dog shootings were just accidents.
I thought you lost them on a camping trip?
Your doctor will ask via Obama-care and Executive order.
We homeschool with other families that no longer have guns. And we don't talk about what we may or may not have in the way of firearms, or how we may or may not be preparing for - something.
Initially, Op-Sec sounded paranoid - but my wife and daughter have bought into the idea, as have others we may or may not be in contact with....
Not nationally, but in some states (like here in CA) that would make you a felon, and inellegible to ever own a gun again. Here you would have to go to a licensed dealer and file a state transfer for each gun (about $75 per). I suspect WA may have a similar law.
1 Any assault weapon relinquished pursuant to this subsection shall be 2 destroyed; 3 (b) The transfer of any assault weapon by a licensed manufacture 4 or dealer to a law enforcement agency in this state for use by that 5 agency or its employees for law enforcement purposes; 6 (c) The possession of an assault weapon that was legally possessed 7 on the effective date of this section, but only if the person legally 8 possessing the assault weapon has complied with all of the requirements 9 of subsection (5) of this section; 10 (d) The possession of an assault weapon that has been permanently 11 disabled so that it is incapable of discharging a projectile. 12 (4) Subsection (2) of this section shall not apply to any person: 13 (a) while lawfully engaged in shooting at a duly licensed, lawfully 14 operated shooting range; 15 (b) While lawfully participating in a sporting events officially 16 sanctioned by a club or organization established in whole or in part 17 for the purpose of sponsoring sport shooting events. 18 (5) In order to continue to possess an assault weapon that was 19 legally possessed on the effective date of this section, the person 20 possessing the assault weapon shall do all of following: 21 (a) Safely and securely store the assault weapon. The sheriff of 22 the county may, no more than once per year, conduct an inspection to 23 ensure compliance with this subsection; [Emphasis Added by Stanwooddave] 24 (b) Possess the assault weapon only on property owned or 25 immediately controlled by the person, or while engaged in the legal use 26 of the assault weapon at a duly licensed firing range, or while 27 traveling to or from either of these locations for the purpose of 28 engaging in the legal use of the assault weapon, provided that the 29 assault weapon is stored unloaded and in a separate locked container 30 during transport. 31 (6) Notwithstanding any other provisions of this section, any person 32 in this state who, after the effective date of this section, acquires 33 title to an assault weapon by inheritance, bequest, or succession, 34 shall, within thirty days of acquiring title, do one of the following: 35 (a) Comply with all of the requirements of subsection (5) of this 36 section; 37 (b) Dispose of the assault weapon pursuant to subsection (3) (a) of 38 this section; or p. 7 SB 5737 The under signed declares under penalty of perjury of the laws of the State of Washington, and the laws of the United States of America 18 U.S.C. § 1621 & § 1746 and The State of Washington FALSE SWEARING (R.C.W. 9A. 72.040), that the above statement(s)/ content (Except Formatting) are true and correct to the best of Affiants knowledge, Executed this 21st, day of February, 2013, at Stanwood, Washington.
The same wording as was on bill SB 6396, Pg 7, of SB 6396, Line(s) 19 thru 21.
Letter(s) to the Editor:
I read Danny Westneats Feb. 16th column in The Seattle Times titled Slip-up may slam doors on gun law, [NWSunday, Feb. 17] and became quite concerned. There was no mistake in the bill (SB 5737), which was sponsored by Sens. Ed Murray, Jeanne Kohl-Welles and Kline. The column reads: I spoke to two of the sponsors. One, Sen. Adam Kline, D-Seattle, a lawyer who typically is hyper-attuned to civil-liberties issues, said he did not know the bill authorized police searches because he had not read it closely before signing on. I made a mistake, Kline said. I frankly should have vetted this more closely. In the 2010 legislative session, Kline was the primary sponsor of SB 6396.
[Link: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2009-10/Pdf/Bills/Senate%20Bills/6396.pdf] This is virtually identical to the current bill he has attached himself to as a co-sponsor. It contains the exact same section calling for sheriff inspections of homes [Page 7, lines 19-21]. It was not inserted into this current bill from a staffer, as claimed in the column. It was there in the beginning. With two sponsors of identical bills in separate years we are lead to believe that they didnt know the provision was in there. Come on, wake up and tell the truth. --Billy Don Card Jr., Wenatchee
Senator's Kline and Kohl-Welles sponsored SB 5475-2005 and 6396-2010; both bills would have permitted the local sheriff's to
perform unannounced inspections of residents homes without a warrant.
The same wording as was on bill SB 6396, Pg 7, of SB 6396, Line(s) 19 thru 21. http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2009
They learn to "write"-think in schools. By the time they make it to the legislature, bill writing like this is second nature.
Well, MINE won't be UNLOADED, none of them. And I won't be handing them over to any goosestepping Government goon, period.
i have heard this has been pulled. i also heard the idiot who sponsored it admitted not the readin the 8 pages. he said he proposed it “in the spirit” of its intent.
unfortunately we have our own set of dim idiot politicians, but i repeat myself, in the reichstag in kolorado.
“Over a generation the full autos have dried up considerably.”
Only the legal ones have ‘dried up’.
Handgun Control, Inc., The Brady Campaign, The Gabby Giffords Campaign, you name it.....any frigging, money grubbing liberal you can find - or even some group that thinks they can make a buck off control implementation (consultation, oversight, etc.)....
Soon we will all be felons anyways.
Like our brothers in NY state: "We will not comply".
If I could move to a Red state I would, but I can't right now - and appear to be just about out of time anyway. Then the whole country becomes a Blue state.
Washington State does not currently have a law regulating private transfers — but a bill with those provisions (but without home inspections) could, unfortunately, become law. Friends and relatives, however, will ignore it.
they already did it nationally with the Lautenberg amendment making it illegal of anyone convicted of domestic violence (misdemeanor) to ever own a gun. No one will touch it now because they will be painted as women haters, and women will buy into it because it feels right, and the law is to protect them, whether constitutional or not.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
[ in frínj ]
1.disobey or disregard something: to fail to obey a law or regulation or observe the terms of an agreement
2.encroach on somebody’s rights or property: to take over land, rights, privileges, or activities that belong to somebody else, especially in a minor or gradual way
Synonyms: encroach on, intrude on, interfere with, impinge on, trespass, invade, overstep
Will your doctor put you under oath before asking you about guns? If not, what penalty is there for lying about whether you have any?
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
Basically, what does that say but to direct doctors to ask patients about guns in their homes? Its basically an order to do so with threats implied.
“The truth is, its not a misstep, its the next step.’
I have a good friend in Washington who I hope is fighting this.
“With a bit of luck, someone snuck that in there with the intention of getting the entire law tossed out on Constitutional grounds.”
Nope. Just the Rats accidentally publishing an item on their wish list.
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