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(vanity) Yep, it's another "Help me pick home defense guns" thread
2/19/13 | marty

Posted on 02/22/2013 9:03:26 PM PST by martin_fierro

POSTED THE OTHER NIGHT ON FB WHILE FR WAS DOWN:

Stopped by my local gun shop tonight for the first time, to see what their inventory/prices were like.



Was surprised by the friendly reception I got. Bunch of good ol' types hanging around.



I'm looking for a handgun + shotgun for home defense. The units would be low maintenance, use comparatively inexpensive ammo and be easy for a man or woman to use.



I looked at a Mossberg 500 (20 gauge) & some Taurus Millenium Series .45 ACPss -- these latter looked to be far too large


http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=MP1&toggle=tp



What do FReepers recommend?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; homedefense; secondamendment
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1 posted on 02/22/2013 9:03:34 PM PST by martin_fierro
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To: martin_fierro
can never go wrong with an Ithaca...

2 posted on 02/22/2013 9:06:03 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: martin_fierro

I second, if the the $ was right. Oh, and make it a 12ga.


3 posted on 02/22/2013 9:07:22 PM PST by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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To: martin_fierro
Ask Joe Biden. I understand he's an expert at home defense. /s

/johnny

4 posted on 02/22/2013 9:11:40 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: endthematrix

12 ga, really?

Our house is very close to neighbors on either side — in the event of an in-house encounter, I’d hate to fire something that could penetrate surrounding homes.


5 posted on 02/22/2013 9:14:52 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Unless you are shooting slugs in the shotgun, or shooting window to window, overpenetration with a shotgun isn't a problem.

The nice part about a shotgun is that you can tailor the load to the situation. #8 shot for birds or people you really, really don't like, but want them to live to know it, maybe, to #4 shot that puts a stop to lots of problems but won't penetrate a standard house wall from any distance, to slugs, that will drop deer from 50 yards.

I'd go with 12 Gauge, too. I load mine with #2 and #3 shot generally. I'm fairly serious about solving problems. If I shoot that in the house, there's no way it's going to make it to the neighbor's house.

/johnny

6 posted on 02/22/2013 9:22:52 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: martin_fierro

Winchester 1300 Defender (pump, 12 gauge). Anything smaller is a waste of time, and this thing will fire reliably. 12 gauge ammo is plentiful. I keep #4 ammo at the ready for mine; about a 1 foot spread at 20 feet. Don’t use slugs/buckshot in a house unless you *want* to go through walls for some reason.

Revolver, blued (not chrome). Brand etc barely matters, just don’t buy cheap crap. Get at least a .357 if this is the extent of your gun buying and it’s only for the house/vehicle.

In either case, make sure it’s comfortable (fits your hand/shoulder/etc), and practice - a lot. Remember you’ll be using it in the dark, half asleep, probably in a panic. Needs to be second nature to load/chamber/unsafe/aim/bang.

If you’re the slightest bit uncomfortable, or entirely new to this, take a gun safety course. Apparently it helps, but I grew up with them and have never attended one.


7 posted on 02/22/2013 9:25:19 PM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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Did you look at the Taurus Judge for a handgun? Did you pick it up and hold it? I’m just saying . .


8 posted on 02/22/2013 9:25:30 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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One thing that rarely gets mentioned about home defense is that if you fire almost ANY firearm in the house, you are going to be deaf for a while. It's worse when you fire one a closed car.

I keep a pair of muffs next to the handy shotgun. I'd like to be able to hear the nice police officers after the event.

/johnny

9 posted on 02/22/2013 9:26:02 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: BipolarBob

The 410 hand-cannon mess-maker? I don’t want to be anywhere nearby when someone gets the bright idea to squeeze off a few rounds.


10 posted on 02/22/2013 9:28:00 PM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: martin_fierro

Go for the 20ga. I prefer the stopping power (relative. Dead is dead) and the availability of various ammo for the 12ga.


11 posted on 02/22/2013 9:28:24 PM PST by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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Great point Martin, one rarely brought up in home defense threads. particularly when I see recommendation for AR type rifles.

No one seems to pay much attention to what is downrange. It may not matter, but if someone is hit next door or next block over, you are in a world of hurt whether you put the bad guy down or not.

I have only one direction I could shoot without worry, so I do worry. Be forced to maneuver to get a shot in that direction if I could manage it. Rather not have to.

12 posted on 02/22/2013 9:31:10 PM PST by doorgunner69
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If there’s a range nearby, you may be able to rent a few pistols at the top of your list. I don’t have one, but the Judge or the Governor are kind of a twofer that may fill both your needs.


13 posted on 02/22/2013 9:31:52 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yeah, great.

I’ve got real concerns about protecting my home & family for when Obozo collapses our economy, just when Asshat Biden shoots his mouth off about shotguns, and everybody wants to talk about *him.*


14 posted on 02/22/2013 9:39:08 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Two recommendations:
15 posted on 02/22/2013 9:42:16 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Here's an Obama compliant pistol

Here's an Obama compliant longgun


16 posted on 02/22/2013 9:43:49 PM PST by fso301
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That’s the whole idea of a self defense weapon. The intruder realizes he’s messed with the wrong person. If you don’t hit them, they will hightail it and run. Drywall is easy to fix.


17 posted on 02/22/2013 9:44:34 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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Yeah, but my understanding is that Glock ammo is all being snapped up by the Gub’mint.


18 posted on 02/22/2013 9:44:38 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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I have a preference for these two.... Mossberg 50450

and this pistol Taurus 4510PD-3B Judge Compact "Public Defender" for self defense. The problem with the Mossberg is my local range will not let me shoot it unless I hold it up and aim it through the nonexistent sights.

Kept right beside the bed in the big city.
19 posted on 02/22/2013 9:44:59 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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Before considering firearms, be sure to have an early warning system for house intrusion. An alert dog who barks at noises is best. If dog is not practical, install alarms on vulnerable doors and windows. You can buy a cheap GE alarm for under $30 which will cover 4 doors/windows.

The last thing you want is being rudely surprised by an intruder when you are fast asleep. You will not have time to grab the gun, load it and fire it. Early warning is a must.


20 posted on 02/22/2013 9:46:26 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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