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College educations creating plenty of debt but not much skill
Coach is Right ^ | 2/24/13 | Jerry Todd

Posted on 02/24/2013 8:41:12 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

Our children’s opportunities to learn based on technological advances has been more than offset by the loss of appreciation of literature and the humanities – including history, theology, philosophy and even economics. Our old friend Jon T. Barton, a classical violinist wrote an 800 page 2 volume work called “The Bible in Western Literature.” He co-authored with attorney John Whitehead a 1981 book, “Schools on Fire” – a prophetic work warning of the now deplorable and unnecessarily expensive condition of American education.

I met a young man recently with a degree in “Environmental Studies” from screwball UCal/Santa Cruz, home of the Banana Slugs. His student loan is $90,000 and he still can’t get a job. His girlfriend has a degree in Psychology and is...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: collegeeducation; skills; studentloans; unemployment
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1 posted on 02/24/2013 8:41:24 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax
I met a young man recently with a degree in “Environmental Studies” from screwball UCal/Santa Cruz, home of the Banana Slugs. His student loan is $90,000 and he still can’t get a job.

This doesn't even qualify him for Walmart. He has no register experience.

It's not Wall Street robbing these kids. The liberal colleges and their professors are getting rich, rich, rich of these young suckers.

2 posted on 02/24/2013 8:46:17 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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It used to be that college students were preferred for high tech and other jobs due to their presumed critical thinking skills garnered from 4 years of higher education. The only thing being garnered from our institutes of higher learning is how to take advantage of the system, how to roll a joint or funnel a beer, and how to hook up with random people.

College is a joke anymore.


3 posted on 02/24/2013 8:46:34 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: concerned about politics

It’s never been about educating them. It’s about getting the interest paid back on the loan....; )


4 posted on 02/24/2013 8:51:46 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: concerned about politics

Enviro Studies sounds like four years reading propoganda magazine articles.

That emphasis in Law or Engineering at least implies a basic skill set.


5 posted on 02/24/2013 8:54:04 AM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Unless you study engineering, pre-med, math or sciences college is not really worth it. These are non PC majors and you actually use what you learn in your career. Most profs in these areas are non political.


6 posted on 02/24/2013 8:55:36 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

We’ve used taxpayer money to pump the colleges full of students who are better suited to the factory floor (I know I was but I didn’t waste resources or space in college) Along with those students come professors who would also be better suited somewhere else.

Meanwhile the best and brightest students are forced to slog through a cesspool liberalism when the rational thing would be to have the top professors teaching the best students.

Its no wonder we’re falling behind.


7 posted on 02/24/2013 9:00:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

This is typical of the marxist libtard approach to all things - spend a lot of other people’s money and wind up with nothing to show for it except a lot of debt.


8 posted on 02/24/2013 9:04:46 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: KC Burke
Enviro Studies sounds like four years reading propoganda magazine articles.

The kid could have gotten it all for free on the Internet.
Actually, everything the colleges teach these days can be found on the Internet. A kid could easily home school himself for free.

Businesses should encourage home taught employees. They wouldn't come to the job with all that liberal crap on their shoulders, and learning at home does show creativity and self discipline (something not found in school kids today).

9 posted on 02/24/2013 9:05:19 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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Just get to know the folks working at your nearby Starbucks and you can visualize half a million in school debt right before your eyes. I guess I shouldn’t have been surprised, but I was that the largest asset held by the Fed govt is school debt. We are devolving into a service oriented society, in which no one will be able to afford those services in a generation. We are no longer thinking college is mandatory for our kids. Find something you love to do, because then you never have to go to “work” everyday.


10 posted on 02/24/2013 9:14:45 AM PST by ScottinSacto
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To: concerned about politics
Businesses should encourage home taught employees.

Investing in it might be a great means of encouraging it. Keep an eye on the homeschoolers pay for the needed supplies and online courses. It can be carried on over to college.
11 posted on 02/24/2013 9:15:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Oldpuppymax
A lot of what college is about these days (not all, but a lot) revolves around a jobs program for the unemployable drones that emerged during the 1960’s, masquerading as anti-war protesters.
12 posted on 02/24/2013 9:25:02 AM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: ScottinSacto
We are no longer thinking college is mandatory for our kids.

Thinking all kids should go to college is a fairly recent mistake anyway. Prior to WWII families didn't really expect their kids to go to college unless they showed some particular aptitude or wanted to follow a parent into a career that required college.

In fact, a good many of the high tech jobs that require a degree, really don't. I'm a high school drop out and I learned to program, maintain, and operate the robotics required for my former job.

College should be for those who can afford it without any state or federal help and the very best and brightest students. Cutting out all the students who shouldn't be there will help to put our colleges back out on the cutting edge of science and technology.
13 posted on 02/24/2013 9:27:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: rarestia
The only thing being garnered from our institutes of higher learning is how to take advantage of the system, how to roll a joint or funnel a beer, and how to hook up with random people.

Heck, back in the day, we learned all we needed to know about those kinds of things off the street. We didn't even need a college loan!

College is a joke anymore.

To a great extent, that is true. What's needed is a competing accrediting agency (or three) to offset the present monopoly that controls what's considered higher education these days.

14 posted on 02/24/2013 9:28:42 AM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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Permit student education debt to be discharged in bankruptcy and the bogus degrees will disappear. Eliminate federal tuition assistance or guarantees and college costs will plummet.


15 posted on 02/24/2013 9:34:13 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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Everything you buy which is imported, is bought from a factory which does not operate in America.

Think about that.

More and more, we buy things which never were even touched by American hands.

We need to bring back US jobs now.


16 posted on 02/24/2013 9:37:06 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Oldpuppymax

Arête.


17 posted on 02/24/2013 9:38:59 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: cripplecreek
problem is, there's damn few factory floors left... and there are plenty of people with factory experienced out of work now

of course unions/union mentality are mostly to blame but it is what it is

18 posted on 02/24/2013 9:42:45 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We need to fix education and society to make American manufacturing attractive. After all, even here at FR, getting one’s hands dirty is often looked down upon.

Its too bad Mitt Romney looked upon Mike Rowe’s advice as a campaign tool and photo op before moving on. Rowe gets it in a way that few modern men do.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2650612/posts


19 posted on 02/24/2013 9:45:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
We need to fix education and society to make American manufacturing attractive. After all, even here at FR, getting one’s hands dirty is often looked down upon.

It's not the dirty hands. It's not the job itself. It's the destructive union card that shows up at those jobs.
Right to work legislation is slowly cleaning things up. Now we need to lower taxes for industry, and things would start to go in the right direction.

20 posted on 02/24/2013 9:50:38 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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