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Top DHS checkpoint refusals
youtube, various ^ | 2/25/13 | unknown

Posted on 02/27/2013 9:39:31 AM PST by GSWarrior

Know your rights.

Worth watching, IMO


TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: checkpoints; constitution; dhs; dhscheckpoints
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You are talking about actual border checkpoints, these people in the video are at Border Patrol checkpoints away from the border- you are already in the United States and in most cases you have not been out of the United States. Originally the checkpoints were on or close to the border, now they are on major roads up to 75+ miles from the border.

I think Border Patrol should be on the actual border, then no need to hassle US citizens that are simply traveling and have not been out of the US.


21 posted on 02/27/2013 12:02:01 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: beebuster2000

” it seems pretty clear that the agents know they dont have the right to do what they are doing, and once challenged they back down.”

I thought that was interesting too. The other thing is that even if they caught illegal aliens, apparently that’s not any hindrance to going your merry way in the US - in fact - it may make you more free than if you were a citizen.

I think inland checkpoints are a waste of everyones time.


22 posted on 02/27/2013 12:40:13 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: Tammy8

Actial on the border checkpoints would work if all illegals would just enter through those checkpoints

but NO, they have to sneak across around unprotected areas.
Believe me in Texas alone millions sneak across ranchers lands. There are no border patrols on private lands.

BUT they also usually have to get to a road at some point which is how the inland check points came about
The checkpoints are usually at some natural confluence of lands so ht it kind of the small tip of a funnel.
Not a perfect solution but it does stop illegals and drugs


23 posted on 02/27/2013 12:41:39 PM PST by RWGinger
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To: GSWarrior

this is how they lock down the freeways. they will. look at all the interstates within these 100 mile zones. 2/3 of the population drives these freeways. it’s all about restricting us citizen internal travel.


24 posted on 02/27/2013 12:47:34 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: GSWarrior

bfl


25 posted on 02/27/2013 1:37:58 PM PST by SwankyC (NO PROGRESSIVES. This Means Liberals and Republicans! Same Thing.)
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To: RFEngineer
it seems pretty clear that the agents know they dont have the right to do what they are doing, and once challenged they back down.”

That isn't the case at all.

26 posted on 02/27/2013 2:51:04 PM PST by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Ajnin; beebuster2000

you meant this for the original poster.


27 posted on 02/27/2013 3:54:40 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RWGinger

I did not mean checkpoints on the border; we already have Ports of Entry staffed by Customs for that. I mean Border Patrol needs to patrol the actual border and concentrate enforcement on the border. For a long time pre-1970s that is how it was done. Border Patrol patrolled the border and Customs had CPO officers that also patrolled the border. The border was more secure and citizens were rarely harassed.

The decision to move enforcement away from the border and to highlight roads “near” the border instead was supposedly to save money, hasn’t worked to secure the border and certainly hasn’t saved money. We are pouring money at the border and still not securing it. Hard to secure anything if you don’t designate a definite area and secure it.

At one time there was an easement along the border for the purpose of patrolling the border, there were at one time horseback riders that patrolled the border mostly to keep livestock from crossing with diseases. In some areas there were horseback patrol riders on the border to interdict human traffic and drugs until the 1970s. My brother-in-law was one of the last CPO horse patrol officers in the US. There are still CPO officers on a reservation in AZ, but I don’t think they still use horses. Border Patrol has horse patrols now but they don’t stay on the border, in fact they are rarely on the actual border. In many areas there still is an easement but it is controlled by the Bureau of Land Management- Department of Interior and they either keep Border Patrol off it citing environmental concerns or charge Border Patrol to use it, in the form of “fees” or “fines” or whatever they call it for damage supposedly done to the area next to the border. This is insane, we need to designate our border as an area to secure, clear an easement and patrol and secure it. Nothing else makes sense.

I think a defined easement for the purpose of patrolling the border should be in effect the length of the border, and Border Patrol should patrol the actual border.

I know how it is done now, but it has not always been done that way. The way it is done now is obviously not effective at securing the border and harasses citizens without need.

If you think the checkpoints on roads is effective at stopping illegals and drugs why do we have such an issue with both?


28 posted on 02/27/2013 4:06:16 PM PST by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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