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Colorado Dem To Rape Survivor At Gun Hearing: “Statistics Aren’t On Your Side”
Dana Loesch Radio ^ | March 5, 2013 | Dana Loesch

Posted on 03/05/2013 6:41:51 AM PST by george76

During the hearing for the state’s proposed college campus gun ban, rape survivor Amanda Collins bravely shared her story of survival.

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who explained how she wished she’d had a firearm to defend herself from her rapist. Said Collins:

“As I live with the memory, weighted with the question of my life: ‘What would have been different if I had been carrying the weapon I was licensed to carry that night?’ I would like to leave you with a question: ‘How does rendering me defenseless protect you against a violent crime?’”

Hudak conflated martial arts with firearm defense without realizing that one of these tactics requires close contact with an attacker, a physical deflection. Hudak’s prejudiced characterization of women and firearms is reminiscent of Colorado Rep. Joe Salazar’s sexist remark that women were simply too hysterical to own firearms.

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Hudak’s argument that a woman could be disarmed and her firearm used on her flies in the face of FBI crime statistics and presupposes that the woman won’t fire and/or is incapable of properly using a firearm. See, Amanda Collins was overpowered, disarmed, and left to be a victim. By Nevada lawmakers. Not her rapist. Just what Hudak said would happen, though not exactly.

Quite a dangerous thing to disarm women and create more rape victims based on a dangerous, baseless assumption.

(Excerpt) Read more at danaloeschradio.com ...


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To: Standing Wolf
A person with a mental disease can and will enthusiastically kill people. Sure, it would be wonderful if only the diseased person was effected! But if you prefer to see Liberalism as plain evil, that's cool too. Though I personally like to keep hope alive and believe that some liberals are capable of growing up, opening their eyes, seeing truth, and curing themselves!
21 posted on 03/05/2013 7:37:00 AM PST by Casie (democrats destroy)
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To: george76
Something that is not often discussed or recognized by both sides of the gun issue is:
With the 10 of millions of guns and their long shelf life plus the billions of rounds of ammunition, just how can a gun-grabber believe guns would disappear tomorrow if completely outlawed? They can dream about confiscation, but there are not enough resources to go door to door to take them from every law-abiding citizen. And what do they do about the black market where most criminals get their guns? Also, what about the black market of imports that would arise. Think the failed war on drugs.

Unfortunately, we are a violent culture. That said, I believe every responsible person above the age of 18 should be allowed to open or conceal carry. As we all know, more guns equals less violent crime. I read EVERY day about someone defending their lives. No guns equals more crime...just look around the world.

The stats (including FBI) are out there but the FEEL GOOD liberals think with their hearts rather than their heads. They will never change this gun culture that was determined by our Revolution against tyrannical King George. We are who we are and no amount of wishful peacenik thinking is going to change that.

22 posted on 03/05/2013 7:40:40 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: george76

Pens? Girls just want to have guns

Posted: Monday, March 4, 2013 8:59 pm

If you stood face to face with a rapist in the middle of the night, what would you prefer to use to defend yourself: a ballpoint pen or a handgun?

About two weeks ago, the Colorado House of Representatives passed a statewide ban on concealed-carry weapons on public college campuses, and the bill is now being considered by the Colorado Senate. In response to questions concerning women and their right to defend themselves, legislators were quick to come up with silly, petty alternatives to prevent a rapist from attacking them.

Representative Joe Salazar claimed that passive resistance is the way to go. While speaking on the House floor, he stated women don’t need guns because “we have call boxes … safe zones … whistles.”

But how safe are you in a “safe zone?” And what’s a rape whistle really going to do if you’re about to be assaulted with no one else in your vicinity?

Colorado State Senator Jessie Ulibarri suggested that during the 2011 Tucson, Ariz., shooting, some people were able to defend themselves using “ballpoint pens” instead of guns. Representative Paul Rosenthal furthered these ridiculous alternative strategies by saying the buddy system and learning “judo” were adequate forms of self-defense.

It seems it’s male politicians who are at the forefront of taking away a woman’s right to own a concealed-carry weapon and telling her to use weaker or silly alternatives.

Not only are politicians suggesting ineffective ways to defend yourself, but several universities have listed ineffective tips to dispel attackers.

For instance, the University of Colorado at Colorado Springs’s public safety department urged students to “tell your attacker that you have a disease or are menstruating.” According to the department, using your bodily fluids is a very effective way to protect yourself: “Vomiting or urinating may also convince the attacker to leave you alone.”

At Oregon State University, the public safety department suggests students take 16 to 20 hours of training in martial arts or street fighting. The state university also claims that you can discourage your attacker by “claiming to be sick or pregnant” and “fainting” or “acting insane.”

I’m sorry, but don’t politicians and universities support female empowerment? I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t feel empowered to protect myself if I knew menstruation was my only weapon. And urinating may not even stop a sick, deranged rapist from assaulting me — but a bullet would.

As a woman, I feel offended that politicians expect me to use such impractical, hopeless methods to defend myself from someone who wants to take away my dignity. According to many universities, I’m just a young girl who should act insane to prevent rapists from violating me. As many feminists may say, “This is anti-choice.”

From my life experiences, empowerment never came in the form of urinating, menstruating or acting pregnant. It came in the form of shooting a Beretta DT10 for the first time.

Regardless of whether a woman wants to own a concealed-carry weapon on a college campus, politicians and institutions shouldn’t be making the decision for women nor telling them they can just pretend to menstruate and everything will be fine.

The fact is, gun ownership among women is on the rise. A Gallup poll, from 2005 to 2011, showed the proportion of females who had guns in their households rose 10 percent. Today, almost a quarter of American women own guns.

Sooner or later, we need to realize taking guns away from the law-abiding does not prevent criminals from possessing guns. The idea that women should play dumb or stand back when they are about to be raped only perpetuates sexist judgment. By simply telling women to use pathetic, unsuccessful forms of self-defense, we are only weakening the American woman’s mentality when she is faced with her violent, brutal attacker.

Caroline Carlson is a sophomore government and politics and information systems major. She can be reached at caroline.crlsn@gmail.com.

http://www.diamondbackonline.com/opinion/article_62a57c34-8538-11e2-a0de-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=print


23 posted on 03/05/2013 7:43:39 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Girlene

Agreed. I was afraid a weapon could be taken from me, and used against me, so I took martial arts. What I learned doing TKD with men, is that I never, never, never want to have to fight a man. A small man with my level of skills and viciousness is still stronger than me. A big man is much stronger than me. A big fat man doesn’t even feel most of my blows and he can just squash me. If attacked I would far rather shoot him from ten feet away.

Martial arts is better than nothing but it’s no equalizer.


24 posted on 03/05/2013 7:44:30 AM PST by heartwood
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The list of those who would gladly prevent the innocent from defending ourselves has grown, my FRiends:

Dem. Rep. Claire Levy 303-866-2578 claire.levy.house@state.co.us
Dem. Rep. Rhonda Fields 303-866-3911 rhonda.fields.house@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Morgan Carroll 303-866-4879 morgan.carroll.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Evie Hudak 303-866-4840 senatorhudak@gmail.com
Dem. Rep. Beth McCann 303-866-2959 beth.mccann.house@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Lois Tochtrop 303-866-4863 lotochtrop@aol.com
Dem. Rep. Jenise May 303-866-2945 jenise.may.house@state.co.us
Dem. Rep. Lois Court 303-866-2967 lois.court.house@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Rollie Heath 303-866-4872 rollie.heath.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Mary Hodge 303-866-4855 mary.hodge.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. John Morse 303-866-6364 john.morse.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Jessie Ulibarri 303-866-4857 jessie.ulibarri.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Irene Aguilar 303-866-4852 irene.aguilar.senate@state.co.us
Dem. Sen. Lucia Guzman 303-866-4862 lucia.guzman.senate@state.co.us

Vote them ALL out!


25 posted on 03/05/2013 7:46:26 AM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: george76

If a ‘Pubbie said this, he’d be publicly eviscerated on TV. But a Democrat gets away with it.
Ain’t Media Bias great?


26 posted on 03/05/2013 7:49:52 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Only if you’re talking about the “ruling class”. There, there’s no cure but to eliminate them from positions of power.

However, there’s nothing like a bit of hunger in a “work or go hungry” situation to turn a “liberal” into a conservative.


27 posted on 03/05/2013 7:50:40 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: RandallFlagg

Notice how most of ‘em are female?


28 posted on 03/05/2013 7:55:21 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Little Ray
Notice how most of ‘em are female?

Yeah, but you wouldn't know it by LOOKING at 'em.

EWWWW!!!
29 posted on 03/05/2013 7:59:14 AM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: Girlene

bump

The gun grabbers are deranged assholes.

Too bad they won’t have Senate hearings that concern the children killed by illegals.


30 posted on 03/05/2013 8:00:11 AM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: vetvetdoug
iberals will say and do just about anything to institute Socialism and Communism. Its not about equality, its about controlling the masses and keeping them under their thumbs.

Once people are dependent upon the State to protect them, the govt can extort unlimited money by simply having police be the first to be cut in any budget shortfall.

31 posted on 03/05/2013 8:02:03 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: mbarker12474
It is irrelevant,even if it is TRUE, that a woman with a gun will likely have that gun used against her by a rapist or attack

By that logic, policewomen should not be armed because they will just have their guns taken. Or you could just train people in weapons retention techniques.

32 posted on 03/05/2013 8:08:27 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize - Voltaire)
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To: Girlene
Evie Hudak is just plain stupid and EVIL.

I'd just say "Stupid". She's not smart enough to be evil.

That having been said, all she's capable of doing is repeating the mantra. She can't question the theology, since that would risk her social status, bring scorn upon her from people whose opinion she values, and frankly, bring into question everything she believes.

Truly, liberalism is a harsh religion, and its master is an unforgiving one. Makes me glad to be a conservative, and strong enough to form my own opinions.

33 posted on 03/05/2013 8:14:59 AM PST by wbill
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To: Girlene
Newt: My mommy always said there were no monsters - no real ones - but there are.

Ripley: Yes, there are, aren't there?

Welcome to reality Ms. Hudak!


34 posted on 03/05/2013 8:22:22 AM PST by 444Flyer
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To: george76

Hey Hudak, the 1st Amendment protects your stupidity, and the 2nd protects us from it.


35 posted on 03/05/2013 8:28:53 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: george76

Another case of projection by RATs. It is the RATs that wage war on women. It is RATs that are anti-semitic. It is RATs that segregationists.

But then, I’m preaching to the choir.


36 posted on 03/05/2013 8:34:03 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: george76

If this were the other way around, Dems would be all over TV claiming Pubs “want women to be raped”.


37 posted on 03/05/2013 8:34:47 AM PST by orlop9
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To: george76

One wonders what the headlines would be if a male Republican said this.


38 posted on 03/05/2013 8:38:24 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: george76; All

As with everything in life, it is a choice.

You either CHOOSE to obey them... Or you don’t.

You are the master of your own life and your fate - not these political martinets.

Choices have consequences, obviously.

But the consequences of being disarmed, attacked, possibly murdered also puts your FAMILY at risk - your attacker/killer now has your car keys, your address, your cellphone, house keys - access to your family.

By being disarmed, you leave your loved ones vulnerable.

If armed, you at least have a fighting chance to survive. Disarmed, you’re definitely finished.

Life is a series of choices. Which choice you make affects more people than just yourself.

Carry anyway.

If we are to call ourselves Free People, we should act and behave as Free People - in spite of what the assholes of our society try to dictate to us.


39 posted on 03/05/2013 8:43:23 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: george76

I blame the racist republicans for not passing a budget in the Senate and now we have to make an equester!

(did you post that one on FR? The comments would be priceless....)


40 posted on 03/05/2013 9:14:40 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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