Skip to comments.Palin may have something on why Obama's buying up so much ammo: She was right on "death panels"
Posted on 03/05/2013 6:55:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Once again we think, Sarah Palin has hit the nail on the head. The fact is the Federal Government has in recent months stockpiled an enormous amount of ammunition. Much more than has ever been used in the past and much more than could ever be conceivably used in ordinary circumstances. So why are they doing it?
Many people, including the Zombie Obama supporters just ignore the question. Congress ignores it and the Obama Administration refuses to explain their actions.
But it goes without saying that there is a reason. And we just think Palin has as good an explanation as anyone we've heard. She writes, on her Facebook page that she believes that the government is preparing for expected civil unrest when the economy collapses. We agree.
But we think it is even worse that the government preparing for the worst. We have a gnawing suspicion that Obama and his top minions are simply preparing to survive what they plan on causing. There are too many unexplainable actions by the Obama Administration to weaken America and destroy the essence of what has made this country great. We think Obama despises American exceptionalism and he has been determined for years to "cut America down to size."
Moreover, we think there are millions of people in this country who have no clue about what Obama is doing to America. They are too self-absorbed to care. But Obama knows that when the house of cards collapses they will react and it will not likely be to congratulate him. So he needs protection. That is why he has ordered the stockpiling of so much ammunition.
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Exactly what I’ve thought for a long time.
But the bad times are gone and the market is in a new bull rally.
I heard it on ABC news today.. /s
Who is he going to recruit for his SS.
Mrs. Palin it is not suggested to rest on the sidelines for too long.
There is a serious struggle brewing.
You have been in and out of the fight, but things keep getting worse.
I thank you for your observations, and support you 100%, but please do not back down.
You are a rare individual who will need to start speaking up about these sorts of things.
Saul Alynsky taught that the citizens of USA probably won’t let go of the old system until they are in such despair that they have no choice but to grab for the new system. The old system has been the exceptionally successful free market system and the new systemm is the not so new, and always failed system of Marxism. When the people are in dispair, they might lash out at those who planned and caused it. Thus ammo, UAV’s and MRAP’s for the Marxists.
So they need over a billion rounds of ammo for “practice”...??
They could practice a million rounds a day for a thousand days... anyone see them practicing that much?
And when you practice, you use cheap wad-cutters - not expensive hollow points.
...we think there are millions of people in this country who have no clue about what Obama is doing to America. They are too self-absorbed to care. But Obama knows that when the house of cards collapses they will react and it will not likely be to congratulate him. So he needs protection. That is why he has ordered the stockpiling of so much ammunition.
Who's he going to get to fire all those rounds?
I think it is worse than that. I went into my local gun store this week for some speed loaders and noticed a sign on the ammo shelves stating that all 22 cal ammo was only available with the purchase of a 22 cal weapon only and that the limit of only two boxes.
What that tells me is that the government is doing the Cloward/Piven strategy to ammo availability in buying up as much as the manufacturers are willing to sell them in bulk for the “big order” to limit what the Serfs can obtain to hedge against the checking of a tyrannical government.
Well said. With our deficit, why buy so many expensive rounds?
1. When the economy collapses.
2. When the gun confiscation starts.
3. When Obamacare gets rolling and people start dying from the rationing and wake up to what we have there.
It could be any of these three or all.
One thing is for damned sure It is for use against Americans, and not for target practice.
Wrong. Hollow points are used for practice and training is continuous in which enormous volumes of rounds are used. You are wrong.
Went to my local gun shop and the cupboards were bare. Lots of gaps in the display cases, no .22 to be found, and the prices of what ammo was there was quite high. Ammo = gold now...
We think Obama despises American exceptionalism and he has been determined for years to “cut America down to size.”
Hits the nail right on the head.
Once the SHTF, he plans to declare martial law; establish himself as President for Life; then order America’s Gestapo, the DHS, to begin confiscating arms and rounding up Americans for the gulag.
Or simple execution.
And he knows that Americans, by and large, are too absorbed with their bread and circuses to care.
He knows, too, that America’s Ministry of Propaganda, otherwise known as the news media, will fall right into line and defend the whole thing on some specious pretext or other.
The final and ultimate irony is that Americans voted for it, and he’s not even a naturalized citizen and was never eligible to be president.
Maybe nobama’s homeland army needs all that ammo because they miss a lot of the time?
I have my own theory about the gummit buying all this ammo. It may be a wacky theory, but nonetheless, it’s what I have concluded.
“They” are having a hell of a time trying to take our guns. What’s the next best thing? Take our ammo........
I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years, to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves, and the House? Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with these war-like preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled, that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask, gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us; they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging.(more)
We live in interesting and dangerous times.
Please read this: at least the bold
"As members of this administration have previously indicated, the US government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and has no intention of doing so. As a policy matter moreover, we reject the use of military force where well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat."
However, Holder went on to note that under certain circumstances, the president reserves the right to target U.S. citizens for due process-free killings:
"It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States. For example, the president could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances like a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on December 7, 1941, and September 11, 2001."
Before the era of predator drones, such a statement might be considered unremarkable in that most Americans would accept some "extraordinary" action in a classic "ticking time-bomb" scenario. However, Obama's clear willingness to employ drone strikes to kill individuals who aren't necessarily involved in plotting attacks at the time they become targets should give all Americans pause.
I don't know what to say.
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Maybe they have figured if they can’t take our guns, they can take our ammo, making our guns useless?
Hoping I’m not giving them any ideas.............LOL!
Nope, wrong again. There are truncated cone loads that duplicate the ballistics of HP ammo. It is sold by the ammo makers as practice rounds for about 40% less cost than the HP duty rounds. No department with a budget buys only the pricey stuff.
I was in the security police in the air force AND worked for local police agencies when I got out, so I have done plenty of practice shooting. We never used expensive ammo, and certainly not hollow points for PRACTICE
Tell me how you know better?
I don’t think most of the morons who worship Hussein will ever wake up to what he’s doing, even when the house of cards collapses.
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Palin is off the mark.
Since Heller & McDonald, the only way for this administration to implement gun control is to drive up the price of guns & ammo by using taxpayer dollars.
It is extremely successful, and the next target will be food.
Yes, that is a problem. Sometimes when I'm doing some traveling by car, I am amazed at the number of radio stations that feature sports talk shows. Their country is in danger of disintegrating and these idiots are talking about sports teams and players.
Those who put little barry abstard boy in power have told their servants to prepare for the date certain when the collapse starts. This tells the vermin rulers that resupply will be impossible once the collapse arrives, so they buy what they think they will need to protect the oligarchs as we the people die off in the millions due to starvation, chaos, murder, and mayhem. The oligarchs already have their refuges arranged and stocked, and ammo was one of the supplies they required.
Yep, brainwashed children will do what he asks.
There are some seasoned vets coming home. There are many angry old farts who have plenty of experience.
Their task will not be a cake walk.
And we the people have also done some guns and ammo purchasing. Read today that this is the 4th straight month of over 2 million backgound checks by FBI. The shelves in the stores are pretty bare of ammo. Reloading supplies have become scarce. No one told the public to do that, they sense it is needed.
DC POLs know it. You would think they would move away. The Commie Dems are trying to charge full ahead. Will they hit the wall? Will the wall hold?
We shall see.
Cloward-Piven—overwhelm and collapse the system, create chaos and violence, and then come in and remake the system according to your desires. Pure Alinsky. That’s been Obama’s plan all along.
First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and his wife Frances Fox Piven (both longtime members of the Democratic Socialists of America, where Piven today is an honorary chair), the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
Inspired by the August 1965 riots in the black district of Watts in Los Angeles (which erupted after police had used batons to subdue a black man suspected of drunk driving), Cloward and Piven published an article titled “The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty” in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation. Following its publication, The Nation sold an unprecedented 30,000 reprints. Activists were abuzz over the so-called “crisis strategy” or “Cloward-Piven Strategy,” as it came to be called. Many were eager to put it into effect.
In their 1966 article, Cloward and Piven charged that the ruling classes used welfare to weaken the poor; that by providing a social safety net, the rich doused the fires of rebellion. Poor people can advance only when “the rest of society is afraid of them,” Cloward told The New York Times on September 27, 1970. Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation; poor people would rise in revolt; only then would “the rest of society” accept their demands.
The key to sparking this rebellion would be to expose the inadequacy of the welfare state. Cloward-Piven’s early promoters cited radical organizer Saul Alinsky as their inspiration. “Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules,” Alinsky wrote in his 1972 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judaeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system’s failure to “live up” to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist “rule book” with a socialist one.
Bought 3 more pounds of powder today and some primers.
Shipment just came today to nearby gun supplier. He even had an AR type weapon that arrived today, one of my friends was handling it when I arrived at the store. Suspect he bought it after I left.
I don’t shoot exotic rifles but what I shoot has a bit more energy than the .223 rifles the press is so afraid of.
I’d suggest y’all start buying 50 lb bags of white rice...
They have bought enormous amounts of ammo and weapons and are now effectively preventing citizens from buying ammo. The following is an email I posted here a few days ago that I received from a company where I ordered 2 extra clips from for my 9mm handgun.
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There are many who would rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven.
A gun with no ammo is just a club.... no ammo less of a threat...
I hope this is the final straw that causes the U.S. military to clean house on the DC swamp or side with the local LEOs and patriots who will resist Emperor Obama.
I think you are exactly right. There is no way they could confiscate the hundreds of millions of weapons in our country, but they can certainly limit the availability of ammo. We are being disarmed by taking away the most crucial aspect of the weapon. We are a people that are heavily armed, unfortunately very few have large supplies of ammunition, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon.
For several years a mystery company has been buying up firearms manufacturers through an outfit called the Freedom Group, and now we hear that the government is buying thousands of light armored tank vehicles for in the streets of the USA!
And then, of course, there is Obama's Army;
On July 2nd, 2008 Obama said; We must have a civilian national security force just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded...[as our military] We were warned then!
So, it's no big secret that they are preparing............
As well, buy your juice in the plastic containers with the large lids. Rinse them well when you are done, soap them out and rinse again. After they dry, fill them up with your rice and inside he lid run some hot candle wax inside the rim. Just prior to the wax “setting”, screw the lid on.
Its not perfect, but it will keep the rice a hell of a lot longer than 50 lb. bags (and yes, you need a lot of the juice bottles..I’ve been at it for a few months now).
Sadly, it isn’t a fact.
Contracts to authorize the purchase of Ammo are not the same as contracts FOR purchase of Ammo.
Government will sign contracts which offer “up to” some amount of an item, or a period of time. The business is guaranteeing that they can meet up to that amount of demand.
Then, the government will do purchase orders as needed, under the contract.
So, if you read that the feds bought 450 million bullets, what REALLY happened is that they signed a contract to purchase UP TO 450 million bullets, over the next 5 years, at a certain price.
They have locked in a price, in case ammo gets more expensive, and locked in a supply, in case it gets scarce.
There is probably a minimum purchase requirement in the contract, and a limit per year, and other details.
But at the moment they signed the contract, they didn’t have one more bullet than they had earlier.
It’s a great story, fun to talk about, but it’s time we went back to serious problems.
Like why every agency of the government has a law enforcement division.
Senator Sarah Palin
You’re way to transparent
You’re way too transparent
Senator from Alaska or Arizona?
I see no reason for him to condemn the constitution, build and arm a domestic army, hire military guards for domestic internment camps and classify political and social opponents to communism and global government as domestic terrorists, unless he’s planning to act domestically.
He’s set up war in the Middle East by putting radical Islam in power and funding them. Russia has promised if we attack Iran, they will nuke the US and Obama is making noises about attacking Iran. He’s left our borders wide open and imported a bunch of radical Islamists.
So, his domestic army is probably his plan for rule after we are nuked by his pals, the Russians. Or for economic collapse after he lights the bomb he’s laid in the Middle East.
Another possibility that I see is that the local police would soon turn to protecting their own families and neighborhoods during massive civil "unrest". Look how the LAPD came unglued over that one ex-cop lunatic, and threw half of their force to find him, and protect every police official on that list. Also look at the huge number of cops needed to flush the Occupy RATs from a couple of city blocks. If they're not going to use deadly force, you need bigger numbers to thump a few people and haul them away.
Now imagine something like this happening in all the big, and medium, cities all across the company. In some of the liberal hellholes, there's barely enough police presence to protect the elite, much less the innocent peons, who will be under 24-hour curfew.
In steps Big Sis with her stash of 35,000 SiG P239s, 1.5 billion rounds of elite Speer Gold Dot ammo, and 2700 refurbished first-generation MRAPs. She starts making phone calls to her favorite big-city mayors and police chiefs. "Sorry to hear things are so rough for you folks. I can offer you enough handguns, ammo, and MRAPs to see you through this rough spot. No strings attached, just sign our regular memorandum of understanding that you'll follow the 'suggestions' of any of my underlings I send there to help you."
Then she calls the governors, and says, "this is the 'certain circumstance' that the president said he'd consider using armed UAVs to help you people out. We can offer one armed UAV per state, with state and DHS officials advising on fire missions."
Never even has to suggest calling out the downsized National Guard. Just promise limitless guns and ammo, and "relaxed" (no DOJ observers on the front lines) ROEs, and it's all so easy to let firepower solve the problem.