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Quantum theory is wrong.
A word in your ear ^ | March 7th 2013 | Mark

Posted on 03/07/2013 5:44:05 AM PST by ABrit

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To: Durus

We don’t know that. Because there’s no way to see what the ball would do when it is not observed. Meanwhile the photon experiment stands, observing does change the behavior of what is being observed.


51 posted on 03/08/2013 7:22:28 AM PST by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: discostu
You are inferring that there is some unknown force acting on the ball as the result of a human observer?
52 posted on 03/08/2013 2:42:07 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

Not inferring, we KNOW from the photon experiment that observation changes things. The only question is how much other stuff gets changed and how it changes. It might not change anything dramatic about the flight of the ball, or it might, we don’t know that part, but something is changed. Quantum theory tells us the world is a lot more interconnected than anybody really thinks, reality doesn’t happen in a vacuum, observation changes the event.


53 posted on 03/08/2013 3:00:59 PM PST by discostu (Not just another moon faced assassin of joy.)
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To: 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; Beowulf; Bones75; BroJoeK; ...
Quantum is the team’s 11th vehicle. The team finished Quantum earlier than previous cars, allowing for more testing time and time to design second iteration parts.
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Probably will need a Quantum mechanic at some point.

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54 posted on 03/08/2013 4:56:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: mnehring

I’m both stealing and not stealing that, not even I know for certain.


55 posted on 03/08/2013 4:57:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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Chinese Physicists Measure Speed of “Spooky Action At a Distance”
Physics arXiv Blog | March 7, 2013 | Physics arXiv Blog
Posted on 03/07/2013 11:41:49 PM PST by Bobalu
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2994701/posts


56 posted on 03/08/2013 4:58:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: ZX12R

You need look no further than ‘pi’. With that ratio included in any equation an arbitrary limits point must be chosen. BUT, it is a fact that the greater the gravitational field, the greater the error ifan arbitrary value for pi is chosen with less than 100 or more decimal points.


57 posted on 03/08/2013 6:09:19 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: discostu

Any means to measure any aspectr of an ‘object’ causes an interaction with the thing to be observed, even if one observes only the effect upon the medium used to make the measurement. The inclusion of intellect, arranging some means to measure a thing, adds one more variable to what is already an object being interacted with by the universe. Another way of saying it is, the behavior of the universe will continue whether humans observe it or not.


58 posted on 03/08/2013 6:15:40 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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American Journal of Physics — May 1973 — Volume 41, Issue 5, pp. 639
An Experiment on Electron Interference
O. Donati, G. P. Missiroli, and G. Pozzi
Istituto di Fisica, Laboratorio di Microscopia Elettronica, Università di Bologna, 40126 Bologna, Italy
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An electron interference experiment that provides impressive evidence of the wave-like behavior of electrons has been performed. The interferometric device has been designed as simply as possible and is described in detail. A standard electron microscope is used as an electron-optical bench.
© 1973 American Association of Physics Teachers

This experiment is not “proof”. The paper is behind a paywall and is inaccessible to the public without a fee. It appears to use electrons to detect electrons. Obviously the detecting electrons impact the detected electrons. The experimental method of detection causes the interference, not the fact of observation per se.


59 posted on 03/09/2013 2:52:54 AM PST by ABrit (awordinyourear.blogspot.co.uk)
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To: pgkdan
pgkdan: ""Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson"

A lot of fake Jefferson quotes out there.

60 posted on 03/09/2013 3:49:46 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: ABrit

Take my word for it, it’s the observation that collapses the wave function.

A crusty old experiment that may have been poorly thought out notwithstanding.

The evidence is overwhelming FRiend.


61 posted on 03/09/2013 9:18:12 PM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: Bobalu

No experimental proof = an unproven theory.


62 posted on 03/10/2013 1:32:22 AM PST by ABrit (awordinyourear.blogspot.co.uk)
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To: ABrit

Does the fact that photon detectors have been shown to be unreliable effect the issue?

[0004] Recently, a weakness has been reported in APD systems that they can be put into a “blinded state” where they are incapable of detecting single photons but where they may be manipulated using higher intensity pulses of radiation.

Read more: http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120063789#ixzz2NJ4kWJj0


63 posted on 03/12/2013 12:06:18 AM PDT by ABrit (awordinyourear.blogspot.co.uk)
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