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Polygamous family lobbies the legislature for decriminalization
KSTU-TV ^ | February 20, 2013 | Ben Winslow

Posted on 03/07/2013 6:09:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

SALT LAKE CITY — Joe Darger and his wife, Vicki, walked through the Capitol shaking hands with lawmakers like any other citizen lobbyist.

What exactly they’re asking their lawmakers to do is a little more unique: decriminalize polygamy.

“The way we are persecuting a particular religious group of people is wrong,” Joe Darger said. “It’s morally wrong, it’s ethically wrong, and we need to look at it. It hasn’t worked for 150 years and we need to change it.”

Darger, a polygamist with three wives, Vicki, Valerie and Alina, is hoping to get lawmakers to start considering the idea of decriminalization. He and Vicki came to the Utah State Capitol carrying copies of a book they wrote about their family, entitled “Love Times Three,” and handed them to lawmakers who stopped to chat with them.

“Right now, it is illegal for me to purport to be married,” Darger told FOX 13. “Simply by me claiming her as my wife, I’m considered a third-degree felon.”

The Darger’s political action comes as a lawsuit is winding its way through U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City that could do the same thing. Reality TV polygamist Kody Brown and his four wives, who star in the cable show “Sister Wives,” are challenging Utah’s ban on polygamy. A federal judge could rule on the case any day now....

(Excerpt) Read more at fox13now.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; lds; moralabsolutes; mormons; polyamory; polygamy; polygyny; utah
Comments?
1 posted on 03/07/2013 6:09:32 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dogs, cats, and tree frogs are next.


2 posted on 03/07/2013 6:12:18 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

And Islamists.


3 posted on 03/07/2013 6:14:41 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: driftdiver

And Islamists.


4 posted on 03/07/2013 6:14:43 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The law should be upheld. Marriage exists for serious reasons and is vital to civilization. And one man, one woman is the best way of arranging a society.

Throw the polygamists in jail.


5 posted on 03/07/2013 6:16:03 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: LastNorwegian

Oh its coming. With gay marriage being legal the rest is not far behind.

Pedophiles are in line as well.


6 posted on 03/07/2013 6:17:13 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow! Who could have seen that coming?


7 posted on 03/07/2013 6:19:02 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: driftdiver

Same goes for blood relatives. It is all coming down the road.


8 posted on 03/07/2013 6:19:54 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What kind of idiot would want to inflict more than one wife on themselves?


9 posted on 03/07/2013 6:21:10 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LastNorwegian

I disagree,It is certainly more natural for a man to have 3 wives than for a man to bend over and have his rectum reamed by another man. Or for women to use toys to masturbate their partbner.


10 posted on 03/07/2013 6:21:55 PM PST by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Comments?

Joe Blow walks into the Utah State Capitol building and admits he’s a child molester and wants to make it legal.

Why isn’t isn’t he arrested and charges brought up?

Joe Darger should be.


11 posted on 03/07/2013 6:24:50 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Elsie

The Mormons must think their jesus is coming back real soon...

Dusting off their copies of the eternal d&c 132...


12 posted on 03/07/2013 6:24:53 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Venturer

That has nothing to do with anthing here, except that once we left the Christian definition of marriage we inevitably opened up for any other redefinition.


13 posted on 03/07/2013 6:30:54 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: LastNorwegian

I agree with that.

marriage is one man and one woman, anything else is wrong.

But once same sex marriage is allowed we must open the door for other variations. such as incestual relationships, and polygamy.


14 posted on 03/07/2013 6:36:32 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

It is certainly more natural for a man to have 3 wives than for a man to bend over and have his rectum reamed by another man.


Absolutely. Time to tell the fudge packers there is nothing special about rump ranging. Marriage is either one man and one woman or it isn’t. So if gay “marriage” is in the cards then so is Polygamy and goat humping.

This is why we lose these battles. The marixsts attack our culture and our traditions but few people are willing to address the bigger issues.


15 posted on 03/07/2013 6:42:20 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Venturer

I agree completely with that.

What we see is the slippery slope in action. Giving in was and is a mistake and if anything we should be struggling to turn back to the old definition before it’s too late.

Somewhere along the line conservatives got the idea that setting rules for how society is supposed to be is evil and intolerant. It is not. Setting those rules is a fundamental part of having a society.


16 posted on 03/07/2013 6:48:24 PM PST by LastNorwegian
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To: Venturer

Make it legal so the extra wives have some legal standing and protection as will the children of the “spiritual unions”. It is a part of their cult and as long as its not abused I see no really good reason to keep it criminal. Its like that fool expedition in Texas a while back. Big crime was marrying off girls who were 13 and 14. They have stopped this and now only do marriages with girls 18. Its not my cup of tea but a poor use of legal effort to chase down these much married Mormon sects. Some seem to like it?


17 posted on 03/07/2013 6:48:53 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like a bunch of liberal EXTREMISTS that are trying to tell people how they must live.


18 posted on 03/07/2013 7:04:50 PM PST by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

polyamorous rights groups demanding to be able to marry as many of any sex or species (just guessing there) as they want.


19 posted on 03/07/2013 7:09:42 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

the other wives are just shack-ups, that is all the “legal” standing they need and its not illegal

What is illegal is trying to say they are all legal “wives” which is stupid.

No changes in the law are needed


20 posted on 03/07/2013 7:12:40 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

The abnormal are never happy until the normal are forced to accept them. Once they become accepted, they will immediately gain minority status with all the accompanying perks.

Rinse and repeat..... until the new abnormal is the old normal.


21 posted on 03/07/2013 7:45:46 PM PST by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: cripplecreek
What kind of idiot would want to inflict more than one wife MOTHER-IN-LAW on themselves?
22 posted on 03/07/2013 7:59:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
The Mormons must think their jesus is coming back real soon...

Actually; THEIR jesus never left!

John 12:31

23 posted on 03/07/2013 8:01:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee3CPfH2O_I


24 posted on 03/07/2013 8:59:15 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: cripplecreek

Hey, if they want equality, they can get a job and support me.

Tnree chicks gone all day, at least two of em will be too exhausted to do mucj including go on ad nauseum about their crap job and I’ll be guaranteed more relations each week, I’ll get to sleep in while they work and the weekends when they are tired.

Sounds great.../S


25 posted on 03/07/2013 9:29:41 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: cripplecreek

It defies reason, IMHO. Can you imagine someone making a statement such as, “I’m completely faithful to all my wives!”


26 posted on 03/07/2013 10:32:50 PM PST by Free in Texas (Member of the Bitter Clingers Association.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

we all should have seen this coming.....not a surprise really


27 posted on 03/07/2013 10:34:29 PM PST by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
WHY would any man want multiple wives? THAT means multiple MOTHERS-IN-LAW! One is MORE than enough!


28 posted on 03/08/2013 4:27:03 AM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: ReformationFan

SHKREEEEECH!!!!

out!


29 posted on 03/08/2013 4:37:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Enabling Act of Congress that allowed Utah into the Union as a State required them to FOREVER foreswear plural marriage. Same goes for Idaho, Arizona, and Oklahoma.

If they do this, they’re back to being a Territory, I guess.

Mike Lee and Orrin Hatch will have to find real work.


30 posted on 03/08/2013 4:41:41 AM PST by EternalVigilance (America's Party - SelfGovernment.US)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
ENABLING ACT, Approved, July 16, 1894.

AN ACT to enable the People of Utah to form a Constitution and State Government, and to be admitted into the Union on an equal footing with the original States.

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The Constitution shall be republican in form, and make no distinction in civil or political rights on account of race or color, except as to Indians not taxed, and not to be repugnant to the Constitution of the United States and the principles of the Declaration of Independence. And said Convention shall provide by ordinance irrevocable without the consent of the United States and the people of said State--

First. That perfect toleration of religious sentiment shall be secured, and that no inhabitant of said State shall ever be molested in person or property on account of his or her mode of religious worship; Provided, That polygamous or plural marriages are forever prohibited.

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31 posted on 03/08/2013 4:53:04 AM PST by EternalVigilance (America's Party - SelfGovernment.US)
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To: EternalVigilance
That perfect toleration of religious sentiment shall be secured, and that no inhabitant of said State shall ever be molested in person or property on account of his or her mode of religious worship; Provided, That polygamous or plural marriages are forever prohibited.

Ma'am; protest all you want, but we are NOT molesting you!



We can, however, go to a DIFFERENT 'state' and molest THEM!

32 posted on 03/08/2013 5:38:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: EternalVigilance

They’ll just do it at the federal level, like they soon will with same sex marriage.


33 posted on 03/08/2013 12:13:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, we’ll just have to throw all the bums out then won’t we.


34 posted on 03/08/2013 4:18:34 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's Party - SelfGovernment.US)
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To: Army Air Corps

They will always find the same excuses such as they *love* each other, it’s a civil right, everyone else can do it why can’t they, other cultures have done it (ancient Egyptian pharoahs).


35 posted on 03/09/2013 12:57:43 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: LastNorwegian

Don’t you love how all of the *rational* pragmatists who believe they are being so reasonable by keeping any religious thinking out of their equation end up in a quagmire when they reject the God given and natural definition of family. When they start trying to redefine marriage, where does it end?


36 posted on 03/09/2013 1:04:22 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: LastNorwegian

“Throw the polygamists in jail.”

Not to make excuses for polygamists but what about all the men who have sex with several women and go on their merry way?


37 posted on 03/10/2013 8:05:05 AM PDT by District13 (Obama scares me)
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To: EternalVigilance

The Enabling Act was and is unConstitutional as it only applied to Utah and not any other state that has since joined the Union.


38 posted on 03/11/2013 12:41:56 PM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: volunbeer

I think a lot of polygamists would be content if they were simply left alone. IMHO, so long as their marriages are consensual then I see no defensible reason why a man can’t have four wives if he is providing for all of them.


39 posted on 03/11/2013 12:44:42 PM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: cripplecreek
What kind of idiot would want to inflict more than one wife on themselves?

Well look at it this way, at least the wives can have each other to talk to about their feelings, instead of having to talk with the husband about them. ;)

40 posted on 03/11/2013 12:47:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: District13

A fine point. It would seem that society tacitly accepts promiscuous men who sleep around and have children with multiple women so long as the women and the children are abandoned to the welfare system. But if he takes care of them and supports them then for some odd reason people think that’s wrong.


41 posted on 03/12/2013 10:01:06 AM PDT by MeganC (The left have so twisted public perceptions that the truth now appears pornographic.- SpaceBar)
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To: MeganC; District13
"Not to make excuses for polygamists but what about all the men who have sex with several women and go on their merry way?"

Aw, you all stole my thunder with that.

We already live in a Quasi-Polygamist society. A Man can have a girlfriend, have a kid with her, then hook up with her Sister/Cousin/Friend and it is the Government that helps support them.

Hell, you could already have a wife and have a girlfriend but as long as you tell people they are your Mistress, and NOT your second wife, it will be okay otherwise people would go absolutely ape.

We really need to take a better look at this issue.


42 posted on 03/12/2013 11:37:13 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: MeganC
The Enabling Act was and is unConstitutional as it only applied to Utah and not any other state that has since joined the Union.

Wrong. All the new states after the originals had Enabling Acts in one form or another.

And three other states, ID, AZ, and OK had the same provision against ever allowing plural marriage in their Enabling Acts.

43 posted on 03/12/2013 5:34:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (America's Party - SelfGovernment.US)
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