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Fox News Declares Ted Cruz Ineligible To Be POTUS Due To Birth In Canada [American Mother] Tube ^ | March 9, 2013 | BirtherReportDotCom

Posted on 03/09/2013 8:04:06 AM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter

Now we are finally getting somewhere. Just like Obama is ineligible technically because his fathers British Nationality 'governed' his birth status in 1961, Ted Cruz is ineligible too. Fox News has confirmed it and rightly so. Sean Hannity made a huge blunder the other day and declared Ted Cruz a natural born citizen because he was born to a American mother in Canada. He was so wrong. Cruz is a 14th Amendment U.S. 'statutory' (not natural born) citizen which is something completely different than a Article 2 Section 1 Constitutional natural born Citizen which is explicitly designed only for the presidency by the framers.

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To: mylife; Road Glide

Precedent has been set. Why attack our own?

#1) If we don't hold ourselves to a higher standard, we appear as hypocritical to those with no standards -- and rightfully so.

#2) It is not an attack to encourage our good men and women to attain offices they are rightfully eligible to hold, and discourage them from seeking offices they are not.

121 posted on 03/09/2013 9:05:44 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: jpsb

Fox is correct. Cruz is not eligible. He isn’t a natural born Citizen born to two U.S. citizen parents.

122 posted on 03/09/2013 9:06:03 AM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: silverleaf

And that means Rubio is not a Constitutional Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen eligible for the presidency.

123 posted on 03/09/2013 9:06:03 AM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: X-spurt

I reniged on that statement but my conviction here is strong.

Why beat up Cruz?

Cruz is outstanding. He makes me proud.

124 posted on 03/09/2013 9:06:15 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Marie

Exactly! It’s called “jus soli.”

That so many Freepers have been brainwashed by Obama’s minions into believing otherwise and attacking those who try to point it out speaks volumes.


125 posted on 03/09/2013 9:06:28 AM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: mylife

You know what this is going to come down to? Instead of focusing what Cruz is doing, all of the future Cruz threads will turn into this food fight. I am counting down the day until he is called a RINO over this issue alone just because the fights will get so heated.

It is always something to distract from strong Conservatives.

Right now Cruz isn't running for President so this exercise is a wast of electrons.

126 posted on 03/09/2013 9:06:41 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mylife
If Obama was not held to these standards, why do you and Fox want to crucify Cruz?

Why do some people idolize Ted Cruz, a "newcomer" to the political scene and rookie in the U.S. Senate and want him to become President so badly?

Yes, he speaks well and yes, he seems to be knowledgeable - but then so did Obama to his followers.

I'm just not liking all these different cults of personality that are popping up all over our political scene. It's just not healthy.

127 posted on 03/09/2013 9:06:55 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Very well stated...

128 posted on 03/09/2013 9:06:58 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Cruz is a Canadian citizen unless he became or becomes a naturalized citizen.

Just because there is an illegal alien in the White Hut doesn’t make it legal.

129 posted on 03/09/2013 9:08:03 AM PST by dalereed
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To: alstewartfan

The olde guard is pissing their pants over this guy.

Oh all the chatter is about Rand’s stand, but Cruz is the one that has them worried.

130 posted on 03/09/2013 9:08:20 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: B Knotts
no one knows what the actual meaning of “natural born” is until it is tested in the courts.

Oh yeah...ska-rew the communist courts.

It's born of two citizen parents, inside US jurisdiction.

131 posted on 03/09/2013 9:08:45 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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Well, I figure my definition is as good as any one I have seen here. For some reason, I can’t find any definition in the constitution of “natural born” so I figure that means born by entering through the mothers birth canal. Which means, all you C-Section babies can’t be POTUS.

132 posted on 03/09/2013 9:08:55 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: yldstrk


Your baby would be a U.S. citizen because you are a citizen. You will have to register your baby’s birth with a consulate or embassy while overseas.

Three types of citizenship are recognized by our government: native born; naturalized; and citizen-by-statute (derived citizenship from parents). All have equal rights. All can serve in Congress, either as a Representative in the House, or as a Senator in the Senate.
The following link will take you to the government’s own Immigration Service web page describing the three types of citizenship.

Natural born Citizen is NOT a type of statutory citizenship.

Natural born is ONLY an eligibility requirement for the U.S. Presidency per Article II, Section 1, clause 5, of the U.S. Constitution, and requires, as per the Founders, the President to be born in the United States (jus solis) AND of two citizen parents (jus sanguinas).

The definition of natural born Citizen appears in the holding of SCOTUS’s unanimous decision of Minor v. Happersett (1874).

Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court held that the Constitution did not grant women the right to vote...

The Minor v. Happersett ruling was based on an interpretation of the Privileges or Immunities Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. The Supreme Court readily accepted that Minor was a citizen of the United States, but it held that the constitutionally protected privileges of citizenship did not include the right to vote.

SCOTUS rejected Minor’s argument that she was a citizen under the 14th Amendmnet of the U.S.Constitution, and examined her eligibility, concluding that she belonged to the class of citizens who, being born in the U.S. of citizen parents, was a natural born Citizen, and not covered by the 14th Amendment. This holding has been used in 25 consequent SCOTUS decisions since 1875.

No one has the RIGHT to be President.

The eligibility requirement of Natural Born Citizenship (jus solis + jus sanguinas: born in the U.S. of U.S. citizen parents) must be viewed as a means to prevent split allegiance for any President of the United States.

133 posted on 03/09/2013 9:09:02 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Both parents were not US passport holders? Ooops, sorry Cruz, but you are still a great US Senator.

134 posted on 03/09/2013 9:09:33 AM PST by jpsb
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To: All

Can the Rubio/Cruz birthers point to any writings from the time of framing of the Constitution to justify their definition of natural born citizen?

Can they point to any case law?

Can they explain the other Presidents (ie NOT Obama) that didn’t meet their Natural Born Citizen criteria?

It’s strange that all these birthers are experts are the natural born citizen clause, but have nothing to support it in case law or from the writings of the Framers.

If the Framers wanted to ensure that you were born in the United States to two parents of American citizenship why wouldn’t they explicitly put that language in the Constitution.

135 posted on 03/09/2013 9:09:57 AM PST by HawkHogan
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To: chaosagent

I think the reason the dem Senate got into this declaration per McCain was to give “precedent” cover to nobama.

136 posted on 03/09/2013 9:10:01 AM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: mnehring

137 posted on 03/09/2013 9:10:05 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

I support Ted Cruz.

I support Sarah Palin.

I likewise support Rand Paul.

Fox is in bed with someone, who is not on that list. I suspect Bush.

138 posted on 03/09/2013 9:10:52 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Georgia Girl 2
The judge in Minor vs Happerset case did not rule that. The comments regarding nBC made by the judge were In dicta and were not part of the decision.
139 posted on 03/09/2013 9:11:07 AM PST by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator, Rand Paul for President in 2016)
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To: Road Glide

Your post is a little bit self-righteous, IMO. If this cretin Obama is eligible, I’m not going to eliminate our best candidate. The mother conferred U.S. citizenship on him, period. What’s so hard about that? We Republicans have a nasty habit of eating our own. Bob

140 posted on 03/09/2013 9:11:27 AM PST by alstewartfan ("You looked like a still From Cecil B DeMille When I saw you Waiting at my door." Al Stewart)
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