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Fox News Declares Ted Cruz Ineligible To Be POTUS Due To Birth In Canada [American Mother] Tube ^ | March 9, 2013 | BirtherReportDotCom

Posted on 03/09/2013 8:04:06 AM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter

Now we are finally getting somewhere. Just like Obama is ineligible technically because his fathers British Nationality 'governed' his birth status in 1961, Ted Cruz is ineligible too. Fox News has confirmed it and rightly so. Sean Hannity made a huge blunder the other day and declared Ted Cruz a natural born citizen because he was born to a American mother in Canada. He was so wrong. Cruz is a 14th Amendment U.S. 'statutory' (not natural born) citizen which is something completely different than a Article 2 Section 1 Constitutional natural born Citizen which is explicitly designed only for the presidency by the framers.

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To: autumnraine

From what I’ve read his mother had not been a citizen long enough or something. I’m late to the thraed, maybe it’s been clarified already.

361 posted on 03/09/2013 11:54:57 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: mylife

Cruz lived in Canada until he was 4 years old.

So, was that long enough for him to be tainted by Canadian values?

Well, there are 300 million americans. I think we could find one who could run our country who was actually born and raised in the country.

362 posted on 03/09/2013 11:55:37 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Verginius Rufus
If it was after 1970, the Democrats are sure to claim that Cruz is not eligible to become President.

And they should.

Even if Cruz' circumstance is the same as Obama's, it serves Republicans right for not having the courage of Democrats to fight with every weapon at their disposal.

While I do not relish the thought of this happening, I do want to see the Republicans have their "we didn't do it out of respect" excuses thrown back at them by true political street-brawlers.

Maybe it will knock some sense into the old-timers to step aside and let a more energized generation take over the party leadership.


363 posted on 03/09/2013 11:58:46 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Canadians are Americans.

In that sense, so are Mexicans.
364 posted on 03/09/2013 11:59:38 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Mr Rogers

By your definition of NBC, a member of the British royal family could come to this country and father/give birth to a child, that child would then be eligible for the presidency and the royal thrown at the same time.

Do you really believe the FF were that stupid?

365 posted on 03/09/2013 12:00:38 PM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Jeff Winston

“This is simply not true. Minor v Happersett had one or two sentences that might POSSIBLY have been relevant”

The Court’s holding in Minor vs Happersett states that she (Virginia Minor) was a US citizen because she was born in the US to parents who were citizens.

This was because in order to decide if Virginia Minor was eligible to vote the court first had to establish whether she was a citizen. The criteria the court used was born in the US of two US citizens.

We all need to accept that we got zoomed in 2008 by the Democrats who had an ineligible candidate they wanted to run for President. Fortunately for them McStain’s eligibility was questionable. So the GOP and Dems banded together and let both of them run. Now the GOP is eager to continue to put up their ineligible candidates for 2016. In effect they are trying to backdoor re-define the concept of natural born citizen which is the job of the Supreme Court. Sadly SCOTUS is trying to duck their duty so the issue rages on.

366 posted on 03/09/2013 12:01:32 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Durus
We lost the election because we nominated a liberal.

We lost the election because we didn't vote for a liberal in sufficient numbers to block the election of the Marxist.
367 posted on 03/09/2013 12:01:36 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Kansas58

How can a legal American mother have a child who is not an American citizen? C’mon Gang, she can’t. As for Rubio, who had parents awaiting citizenship, he was BORN here to parents who were here legally, citizens in waiting. Both are eligible. I am glad that I have the Great One, Mark Levin, on my side.
If Chris Christie or Jeb Bush had the same birth circumstances, neither FOX nor Ann Coulter would be waving the ineligibility flag. Now Jeb Bush, THERE is a guy, like his brother, who seems to yearn to be President of Mexico. There are plenty of natural born Americans, like Jeb, with dual loyalties. Bob

368 posted on 03/09/2013 12:04:10 PM PST by alstewartfan ("You looked like a still From Cecil B DeMille When I saw you Waiting at my door." Al Stewart)
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To: Tau Food
Are you trying to claim that the courts to do not on occasion overturn the will of the people as expressed in a election result? Lol, that happens all the time. See Proposition 8 for a recent example.

You need to acquaint yourself with the concept of Judicial Review in the United States.

369 posted on 03/09/2013 12:04:59 PM PST by jpsb
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To: IMR 4350

That’s “throne”, but good point! LOL Bob

370 posted on 03/09/2013 12:05:19 PM PST by alstewartfan ("You looked like a still From Cecil B DeMille When I saw you Waiting at my door." Al Stewart)
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To: aruanan

See my post #253.

Note: Congress does not have the Constitutional power to change the U.S.Constitution, not do they have the Constitutional power to declare someone a ‘Natural born Citizen”. See U.S.Constitution, Article V.

371 posted on 03/09/2013 12:05:25 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Disagree, and I’ve consulted lawyers regarding this issue as it affects my son who was born overseas while I was stationed there.

372 posted on 03/09/2013 12:06:38 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: IMR 4350

I don’t believe the Founders were stupid at all. They originally would have allowed naturalized citizens to run for President, and then increased the restriction to being born a US citizen. That is a low threshold, as is being 35 years old, but they actually believed the people should get to choose...

And here is a quote from the DISSENT in WKA (1898):

“Considering the circumstances surrounding the framing of the Constitution, I submit that it is unreasonable to conclude that “natural-born citizen” applied to everybody born within the geographical tract known as the United States, irrespective of circumstances, and that the children of foreigners, happening to be born to them while passing through the country, whether of royal parentage or not, or whether of the Mongolian, Malay or other race, were eligible to the Presidency, while children of our citizens, born abroad, were not.”

373 posted on 03/09/2013 12:06:57 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Mr Rogers
There are two ways to be a US citizen - birth, or naturalization. Someone naturalized is allowed to hold any office except President. For President, you must be born a US citizen. And Cruz WAS born a US citizen. As was Obama, sadly. And that is all it takes. If you are a US citizen, and you were not naturalized, then you are a NBC.

There it is, clear as a blue-sky day. NBC is the counterpart to citizen at birth. Cruz satisfies the condition as his mother was a US citizen at his birth. It's not that hard to grasp.

374 posted on 03/09/2013 12:07:30 PM PST by Dysart
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To: Mr Rogers
Mr. Rogers:


And from the mouth of the United States Supreme Court itself.

Thank you.

375 posted on 03/09/2013 12:09:24 PM PST by Jeff Winston
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To: mylife

That had to be embarrassing, to be so opinionated but not to know about the whole grandfathering thingy.

376 posted on 03/09/2013 12:11:24 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: aruanan

They are Brazilians etc.

377 posted on 03/09/2013 12:11:31 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: Drew68
He wasn't but it doesn't matter. Cruz was born an American citizen by virtue of his mother's U.S. citizenship. He didn't have to naturalize. If he wants to run for President, the Senate will extend to him the same courtesy they did McCain and pass a resolution declaring him eligible. Birthers might stomp their feet and file a bunch of lawsuits that go nowhere but there won't be any serious legal obstacles that Cruz will have to overcome to get on the ballot.

Yup. One Amendment written by the Victorious Republicans after the civil war, ostensibly to punish the South, and ratified at the point of a gun, has defacto re-written article II such that it no longer possesses any real meaning.

Also, the Cable act of 1922 and the Women's citizenship act of 1934 were necessary too. Without them a women couldn't transfer citizenship at all.

Of course the newer laws are retroactive back to 1787. Everybody knows that the meaning of something written long ago changes completely with newer legislation which redefines the original meaning. This methodology is far easier than getting a constitutional amendment.

We have become Idiocracy.

378 posted on 03/09/2013 12:11:48 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: mylife
I think the elder Cruz became a citizen in 2005...long after Ted was born

Also, I think they were in Canada on a job...not as immigrants.

I think Cruz had a US birth certificate from birth...

but only the Shadow knows for sure!

379 posted on 03/09/2013 12:12:19 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: IMR 4350
I see NBC as the highest standard and is defined logically like a three input AND gate, where the inputs at the time of birth are: mom's citizenship, dad's citizenship and location.

To be an NBC, then all must be true, mom and dad citizens of the country where the child is born.

If one isn't true, then not a NBC.

No matter what anyone's or country's laws may be, no matter where one thinks citizenship comes from, soil or either parent, all agree about the citizenship of that child.

That is the purest definition of natural born citizen. Nothing else. Everything else is a lesser standard that opens the door to other claims to that individual, given how citizenship had been defined in the historical record the FFs would have had to study.

That's all I'm saying and why I think that's what the FFs would have meant by stating such in the eligibility requirement. It's the only office so defined and I believe that's why.

380 posted on 03/09/2013 12:12:30 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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