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To: mylife
Cruz’s father was also a US citizen at the time of his birth.

He wasn't but it doesn't matter. Cruz was born an American citizen by virtue of his mother's U.S. citizenship. He didn't have to naturalize. If he wants to run for President, the Senate will extend to him the same courtesy they did McCain and pass a resolution declaring him eligible. Birthers might stomp their feet and file a bunch of lawsuits that go nowhere but there won't be any serious legal obstacles that Cruz will have to overcome to get on the ballot.

20 posted on 03/09/2013 8:18:38 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68; Cold Case Posse Supporter; LucyT; null and void; Flotsam_Jetsome

“If he wants to run for President, the Senate will extend to him the same courtesy they did McCain and pass a resolution declaring him eligible.”

The Senate explicitly deemed McCain eligible based on:

1. having TWO US citizen parents and
2. on his father being US military on active duty and
3. the Panama Canal being pseudo-US territory.

None of these three distinguishing facts regarding McCain apply to Cruz.

Whether Democrats object to Cruz’s eligibility will depend on whether Barry is found to have been born in Kenya sometime before the 2016 election.

If proved to have been born in Kenya, Barry would have similar eligibility status as Cruz: born on foreign soil having only one US citizen parent, the mother, although Cruz’s mom met the residence prior to birth requirement to pass US citizenship, while SADO did not.

Barry’s legal defense team and the Congressional Research Offiece have already cited the case Marguet-Pillado in the 9th Circus to justify NBC status for any person having a mere biological tie to a US citizen at birth, so Cruz supporters in the GOP would be expected to embrace this dubious legal lower court precedent as well:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2857598/posts

In support of the opinion in US v Marguet-Pillado, 9th Cir. 2011, Judge Gwin, writing for the majority in his “III Analysis” dicta, states: “No one disputes that Marguet-Pillado’s requested instruction was ‘an accurate statement of the law,’ in that it correctly stated the two circumstances in which an individual born in 1968 is a natural-born United States citizen: (1) that the person was born in the United States or (2) born outside the United States to a biologically-related United States citizen parent who met certain residency requirements.” On March 1, Sheriff Arpaio’s Posse re-opened the possibility that Obama was born in Kenya by announcing that it had found probable cause to believe that Obama’s long form birth certificate was forged, newspaper birth announcements were unreliable, and that there was now no proof that Obama was born in the USA. A week earlier, with full knowledge of what the Arpaio Posse’s findings would be, “constitutional scholar” Obama’s legal team suddenly started citing the Marguet-Pillado case in multiple PA and GA ballot eligibility state appeals. The following language is included by Obama’s lawyers in the PA and GA MTD filings: “President Obama was a United States citizen from the moment of his birth inHawaii. Since he held citizenship from birth, all Constitutional qualifications have beenmet. Ankeny v. Governor of State of Indiana, 916 N.E.2d 678 (Ind. App., 2009); see,United States v. Marguet-Pillado , 648 F.3d 1001, 1006 (9thCir., 2011). There is no basis to question the President’s citizenship or qualifications to hold office.” www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2011/08/.../10-50041.pdf


191 posted on 03/09/2013 9:32:10 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Drew68
there won't be any serious legal obstacles that Cruz will have to overcome to get on the ballot.

The old fake but accurate ploy, works every time. If we become them, then why have an election at all?

222 posted on 03/09/2013 9:47:35 AM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Drew68
Cruz was born an American citizen by virtue of his mother's U.S. citizenship. He didn't have to naturalize. If he wants to run for President, the Senate will extend to him the same courtesy they did McCain and pass a resolution declaring him eligible. Birthers might stomp their feet and file a bunch of lawsuits that go nowhere but there won't be any serious legal obstacles that Cruz will have to overcome to get on the ballot.

This is exactly how it will play out. If Cruz wishes to run, he won't have any problems.

228 posted on 03/09/2013 9:50:57 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Drew68
He didn't have to naturalize.

And that, my friend, should put a stop to this discussion. But it won't.

269 posted on 03/09/2013 10:15:30 AM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. -Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Drew68
He wasn't but it doesn't matter. Cruz was born an American citizen by virtue of his mother's U.S. citizenship. He didn't have to naturalize. If he wants to run for President, the Senate will extend to him the same courtesy they did McCain and pass a resolution declaring him eligible. Birthers might stomp their feet and file a bunch of lawsuits that go nowhere but there won't be any serious legal obstacles that Cruz will have to overcome to get on the ballot.

Yup. One Amendment written by the Victorious Republicans after the civil war, ostensibly to punish the South, and ratified at the point of a gun, has defacto re-written article II such that it no longer possesses any real meaning.

Also, the Cable act of 1922 and the Women's citizenship act of 1934 were necessary too. Without them a women couldn't transfer citizenship at all.

Of course the newer laws are retroactive back to 1787. Everybody knows that the meaning of something written long ago changes completely with newer legislation which redefines the original meaning. This methodology is far easier than getting a constitutional amendment.

We have become Idiocracy.


378 posted on 03/09/2013 12:11:48 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Drew68

Cruz’s father was also a US citizen at the time of his birth.
He wasn’t but it doesn’t matter. Cruz was born an American citizen by virtue of his mother’s U.S. citizenship.
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OK couple of Q’s

1. What nationality was his father ???

2. What was Mom doing in Canada ???

3 how long did Mom live in Canada ???

4 how old was Ted when he immigrated to the US from Canada ???

5. When did such a ready convenient status of being called an American citizen regardless of birth begin ???

I look at the situation of my 2nd great grandfather, Guy, who was born in Canada...

Guy’s father was born in Canada, the son and grandson of American citizens, born in Albany and New Rochelle NY...thus his father was an American citizen...

Guy’s mother was born in Vermont again the child and grandchild of American citizens...thus his Mom was also an American citizen...

So Guy was an American citizen at birth...

Yet when my gg grandfather was a teenager and left New York for Melbourne, Australia and the goldfields about 1850 he was listed as a “British subject” on the ships manifest...

Like Ted Cruz, Guy should have been eligible to be POTUS...

IN FACT HE WAS MORE ELIGIBLE THAN TED..

Oh dear...


397 posted on 03/09/2013 12:30:01 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Drew68

Wonder if I can get the senate to pass a resolution declaring me a billionaire?


776 posted on 03/10/2013 12:14:55 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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