Skip to comments.A bridge in the climate debate – How to green the world’s deserts and reverse climate change
Posted on 03/09/2013 1:36:27 PM PST by Rocky
Every once in awhile, an idea comes along that makes you ask, gee why hasnt anybody seen this before?. This one of those times. This video below is something I almost didnt watch, because my concerns were triggered by a few key words in the beginning. But, recommended by a Facebook friend, I stuck with it, and Im glad I did, because I want every one of you, no matter what side of the climate debate you live in, to watch this and experience that light bulb moment as I did. The key here is to understand that desertification is one of the real climate changes we are witnessing as opposed to some the predicted ones we often fight over.
It is one of those seminal moments where I think a bridge has been created in the climate debate, and I hope youll seize the moment and embrace it. This video comes with my strongest possible recommendation, because it speaks to a real problem, with real solutions in plain language, while at the same time offering true hope.
(Excerpt) Read more at wattsupwiththat.com ...
There is no global warming. global warming is a hoax
Look at solar cycle 25 and you will see the Earth will cool
That the governments spent decades and trillions$ funding this hoax shows government/socialism is a cancer that doesn’t work
The Sun determines the Earth’s climate. Without the sun the Earth would be -473 degrees below zero.
I’m not going to waste electricity watching a video that could have been explained in written words.
I’m already ahead of the game and its free.
“Green the world’s deserts”?
So, all of the desert snakes, horned lizards, and cacti will just adapt to the new ‘green’ deserts?
Oh no! The Great Horny Toad!
Quite a bit of the world’s oil reserves are under deserts. Green up deserts, get people living there, and voila - oil extraction will be totally off limits.
This is a twofer for anti-capitalists. Green up and cool the earth (supposedly) and choke off even more of the world’s oil supply. Drive us all into cities and force us to use public transit and where we can be more easily controlled by Mayor Bloomberg clones. Party time for them.
Oh no! The Great Horny Toad!
I presume you mean your beeber. I bet you don’t even have it on stune!
The government tells us that this macrobiotic soil is a good thing, because it keeps down soil erosion. but this man is saying the opposite, that the macrobiotic soil causes too much runoff.
I believe there may also be another component missing, in that there needs to be more mycelium underneath and throughout the grass roots, which also help store water.
No, i know nothing of beepers but I heard about them, second hand, on FR! It stuned my beeper when I learned about it. : )
Very interesting video. I enjoyed watching it. Thanks for posting the link.
I’m no scientician, but if you “green” the deserts, while they would act as a heat sink, wouldn’t the excess water vapor lead to a greenhouse effect that would more than offset whatever carbon was absorbed by the flora?
more bs. The only REAL problems we have are the government and the news media , and creeps who make up imaginary problems(mostly in the news media)
I have a wood stove.
I like his second approach a whole lot better than his first. I say it’s worth the effort on a bigger scale. As far as global warming, I remember as a child we were taught in grade school, that the sun would naturally warm the earth over time. Don’t think there is anything we can do about this, but this grazing approach and greening areas of the world sounds like a good idea. I’m far throwing money at this idea before giving it to a bunch of scam artist from Solyndra or Al Gore, etc.!
My beeber is totally stuned.
I can’t figure out why we need to green the deserts. They aren’t bothering me a bit.
Outer space is really, really cold. -454.8 degrees Fahrenheit (-270 degrees Celsius) cold. Brr Well, that's not completely true. Only matter can have a temperature, nothingness doesn't. And space is mostly a big empty void of nothingness. However, most random objects floating deep in space will be that temperature or very close to it.
Now you’re just making sense. ;’)
Of course, carbon dioxide is only a few hundred PPM, and has nothing whatsoever to do with climate change; climate change is 100 percent natural 100 percent of the time; and having more water vapor coming off the Sahara would lead to more rain as well, transforming places like, oh, Arabia, back into verdant places as they were in early historical times, but particularly prior to Islam.
It’s just another collectivist scheme (”we’ve got to do something”) to get us to allow the government to do something else as if they don’t do enough already. I just want the government and news media to leave me alone .
Some deserts have been dry for millions of years and others have fluctuated with a shifting climate. Rain shadow deserts are another issue that have a physical barrier to rain.
Its all kind of pointless.
Thanks for the link.
Huge lake = long shoreline near a body of water which creates evaporation and conditions necessary to make rainfall on the surrounding desert.
This isn't the only large area below sea level in the world, just one of the easiest to flood.
When someone mentions “GREEN” anything think “RED”...
Now, I'm convinced more than ever that Dad was right.
Animal population stops desertification by breaking up that top crust with their hoofs, so the water can get to the soil beneath instead of running off.
Freeper Carry_okie has a web book about this very thing. Ask him.
Yeah, that happens to me too. Not the herding part, the dad being right after all part. Of course, like everyone, he was wrong quite a bit too. ;’)
Thanks for all those links. And for your positive take on Savory’s talk. I must say I was disappointed at the knee-jerk reactions of so many Freepers on this thread who seem to stop listening when the guy hits one of their “hot buttons” such as global warming. I think he has some important things to share, but that doesn’t mean that I support everything he says.
Desertification is occurring. He makes the point that it isn’t necessarily because of manmade global warming. He also isn’t saying that all deserts should be “greened,” only that we should stop the spread of deserts and try to reclaim some of the land which used to be fertile and now is barren. It’s a good thing, as far as I can tell. There might be something in his talk which is very important for us to learn.
Herodotus regarding Lake Tritonis
Libya’s Vast Pipe Dream Taps Into Desert’s Ice Age Water
interesting citation from blam:
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