Posted on 03/18/2013 9:51:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Writing in the Wall Street Journal, Kay Hymowitz posits the following conclusion regarding the current culture of masculinity in the United States:
Not so long ago, the average American man in his 20s had achieved most of the milestones of adulthood: a high-school diploma, financial independence, marriage and children. Today, most men in their 20s hang out in a novel sort of limbo, a hybrid state of semi-hormonal adolescence and responsible self-reliance. This “pre-adulthood” has much to recommend it, especially for the college-educated. But it’s time to state what has become obvious to legions of frustrated young women: It doesn’t bring out the best in men.
As someone who is personally putting his twenties behind him, finally finding a certain degree of success in the line of work I’ve been struggling to break into for half a decade and happily occupied in a serious relationship, let me be the first to say that Hymowitz is categorically correct in her summation of the situation.
Painfully so, in fact. This one hits a little too close to home.....
(Excerpt) Read more at acculturated.com ...
I know a lot of women that refuse to cook.
well today’s men are pretty unreliable and no one thinks it is their job to protect anyone, they are all wanting to take advantage, get over, be in love with themselves, get rich
A lot of it just simply has to do with the fact that the price of attaining adulthood has shot out of sight.
It used to be that a young man could get an entry level position job, straight out of high school, and work himself upwards and get the education and training along the way. Now, businesses demand a university diploma before they will even look at a resume and a master’s devree before they will consider you for a well-paying job. Consequently, even if a person has the drive and ambition to get that Master’s degree, straight out of high school, and attains it at about 23 years of ago, that person is starting out $100 grand in debt, or more. He now will have to spend the next 7 years, minimally, paying it off without being able to achieve any of the other adult goals. So this person will be about 30 years of age before he can really start to move ahead.
It's man against man in this world, and women are mere proxies. Open your eyes. ( And don't tell my wife I said that! )
No, but really ...
There is a reciprocal to that, that is rampant in society.
Somewhat poor phrasing on the author's part. I think what he meant was, financial self-reliance, which is what most American men in their twenties achieved with relative ease 40 years ago.
I got my first 'real' job at 22, and never looked back. Within eighteen months, I'd bought two brand new cars and had furnished a very respectable rental house for my young wife and our baby.
That was in 1975.
Today, my 32 year old son is struggling to save enough to move his young wife and kid out of her mother's apartment. They've been there for two years.
Quite you fool! /s
Yes, self reliance is how I would have stated it.
yeah well, I for one, have cooked dinner every night for the past 23 years and sacrifice for my kids. I expect the man to provide and not whine.
I say get the Associates if you are a hard charger.
Get in the door first, establish yourself and continue with your education as needed.
Get the company to pay for it if you can.
I note the only time you mentioned hubby was you expect him not to whine.
He expects the same.
No disrespect intended.
My dear wife of seventeen years is just like you, and yes, I do the providing, and don't whine.
Much ;-)
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Me too. And it’s a sad result of feminism. Obviously, I am decidedly a tomboy. I like fast cars, guns, sports, and power tools, but I also understand how important my role as a wife and mother is to my family. So I cook, clean, and kiss scraped knees too. Any woman who refuses to cook for her loved ones is a selfish b*tch.
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If your man provides for you and your children, he’s entitled to whine occasionally.
You’re alright.
I just found Ms Kay Hymowitz a bit whiny.
It takes two to tango.
You need to teach classes. :-D
yep.
but the whole attitude of ungratefulness permeates the entire culture.
Ozark U should be how it’s done.
I also believe that a way should exist for somebody, who,is willing to self-study, to qualify themselves. If I personally find a particular subject fascinating enough that I am constantly reading up on it and solving problems in my chosen area of expertise and I can pass any test you want to give me, why should my particular process be any longer than a few days of testing before I pick up my diploma?
I realize when I say that, there will be an inevitable need for hands on experience to prove my ability, but I just think we’ve emphasized the need for a classroom far too much, to the point where it is now a detriment to a quality education.
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