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To: ClearCase_guy
But the government can declare that a man and woman can form a special union and this can be encouraged and recognized as valid and important.

By whom? I personally don't recognize a couple as married unless they were married by a priest, minister, or rabbi. Without God blessing the union, in my opinion, it's nothing.

18 posted on 03/19/2013 4:17:22 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: old and tired
By whom? I personally don't recognize a couple as married unless they were married by a priest, minister, or rabbi. Without God blessing the union, in my opinion, it's nothing.

My wife and I were married by a judge.

I'll go let her know that "old and tired" thinks it's nothing.

20 posted on 03/19/2013 4:24:14 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: old and tired
I recognize that you have a point, but I don't think you are considering the other side at all. We have an increasingly atheistic society. I work with someone who just found out that Easter is a holiday that has something -- not sure what -- to do with Christianity. There is ignorance and opposition to all religion. This is what we have become.

Sure, we can say that marriage is a church matter and not a government matter, but that really becomes the equivalent of saying "There isn't going to be much marriage in our future, because so many people have given up on religion". And so you just have people milling about having babies with various people.

We have a problem, and I'm not sure that giving up a legal (government) approach makes sense.

22 posted on 03/19/2013 4:24:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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