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Poll: Federation of Republican Women (amnesty pushers)
National Federation of Republican Women ^

Posted on 03/23/2013 5:02:17 PM PDT by magna carta

What Do You Think? Do you support providing a possible path to legal residency or citizenship for those brought to this country illegally as minors?

(Excerpt) Read more at nfrw.org ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; immigration; republicanwomen

1 posted on 03/23/2013 5:02:17 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: magna carta

My father robbed a bank ten years ago.

Why do I have to give up my house, car, education, etc? It’s not fair that I have to give the money back - he’s the one who took it!

You know what I think? I think you just don’t like Hispanics. If I was white, you wouldn’t have any problem with me keeping the money....


2 posted on 03/23/2013 5:04:52 PM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: magna carta

Voted NO. Thank you!


3 posted on 03/23/2013 5:04:54 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

Rino Women are just as stupid and traitorus as a Male Rino...

No Amnesty Period.


4 posted on 03/23/2013 5:06:31 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: magna carta
1. Close the borders.

2. Call a halt to all immigration until the illegal alien problem has been solved.

3. Round up all the illegal aliens and send them back.

If you think that took a blue ribbon panel of PhDs, MDs, Nobel prize winners, world class experts, and lawyers to figure out, I've got some truly lovely unicorn ranch land to sell you in the mountains of Iowa.

5 posted on 03/23/2013 5:07:20 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: magna carta

Thanks for Voting!

Do you support providing a possible path to legal residency or citizenship for those brought to this country illegally as minors?

Yes: 62%
No: 31%
Not Sure: 6%

Number of votes: 129

Need some more NO votes!


6 posted on 03/23/2013 5:09:18 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: magna carta

Here is an excerpt of their letter by the Texas Chapter leader to encourage a supporting vote. This group drew up a resolution supporting the TEXAS SOLUTION. A guest-worker amnesty designed for Texas heavy hitters in the service sector and construction industry. Their control of Texas politics continually thwart citizen efforts to reign in illegal immigration. In the meantime, the Texas Solution planners have sent out their chief fast-talking lobbyist, Norman Adams an insurance salesman to push the overthrow of citizenship requirements for a Texas Drivers License. This one enforcement legislative victory was obtained in the 2011 session. Please take the poll and spread the word.


7 posted on 03/23/2013 5:09:48 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Standing Wolf

Will never happen. Policians want the votes and unions want the new dues.


8 posted on 03/23/2013 5:10:25 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: magna carta

Here’s the excerpt:

As you know, the NFRW recently adopted a resolution regarding immigration reform based on our Texas FRW policy statement on that subject. The NFRW website now has a question posed on its home page with the verbiage coming directly from our statement. Would you please take a few seconds to go to their website, www.nfrw.org and vote on the Weekly Poll. At this time only a few have voted, so our votes will be important. A “Yes” vote would support our TFRW immigration reform statement as our BOD approved.


9 posted on 03/23/2013 5:11:04 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: House Atreides

Yes: 57%
No: 37%
Not Sure: 5%

Number of votes: 142


10 posted on 03/23/2013 5:11:15 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: magna carta; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs

No they havent acted in a way to display fitness to be American citizens or to stay here...

Its one thing to be brought here as illegal alien children by their illegal alien adults...

its a whole other thing when they knew they were here illegally and never said anything about their situation...

and when they turned 18 it was now their crime as well as their parents when they didnt turn themselves in and go home to get to the back of the line...

If the US government had inititated a way to retain them here if they came forward is one thing...

They might have had a clean slate and been able to apply to immigrate here the right way...

but since they are blatantly in-your-face with us forget it...

They have no respect for America and our laws...

They dont love America...

they dont even respect her...


11 posted on 03/23/2013 5:11:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: magna carta

Let’s start at the beginning. The rewarding of an illegal act: Children born in the United States with parents here illegally. Any fruits of any conspiracy, criminal or civil, have always been denied, why should citizenship be a reward for the fruits of illegally entering the United States?

Same with those who have been brought here illegally - a path to citizenship creates fruits of conspiracy.

If we begin the conversation by adopting the exact same punishments as Mexico for illegal aliens, I’d entertain options. But so long as the conversation solely concentrates on the fruits of illegal behavior, and nothing on the conspiracies themselves, I’m not interested in offering any more amnesty.


12 posted on 03/23/2013 5:19:02 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: magna carta
I didn't read the article.

That said, when someone writes..."Republican women", only two come to mind.

Lindsay Graham and (the once-heroic) J. Sidney McCain.

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13 posted on 03/23/2013 5:22:01 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: kingu

Yes 40%
No 55%
NS 3%


14 posted on 03/23/2013 5:29:42 PM PDT by ArmyTeach ( Videteco eos prius (See 'em first) Sculpin 191)
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To: magna carta

BTT


15 posted on 03/23/2013 5:46:55 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Tzimisce

“My father robbed a bank ten years ago.

Why do I have to give up my house, car, education, etc?”

You don’t.


16 posted on 03/23/2013 5:47:38 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Amberdawn

I voted no also. Mostly because these folks do not travel as one. You let one come in and 15 follow.


17 posted on 03/23/2013 6:01:43 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: magna carta
Doesn't matter if it's right or legal, it's going to happen.
So get in front of it instead of getting run over by it.

We don't need martyrs, we need people fighting to shape the amnesty as best we can.

We need to promote the American dream instead of the centralized government corruption that most of these people are fleeing from.

18 posted on 03/23/2013 6:12:28 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: magna carta; 2ndDivisionVet; 45semi; A knight without armor; Alexander Rubin; all the best; ...
Gop-E pushes amnesty.

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19 posted on 03/23/2013 6:14:18 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: magna carta

so we let the kids stay , but deport their parents, aunts, uncles? Not bloody likely. Everyone will get to stay. Sounds like full amnesty to me.


20 posted on 03/23/2013 6:16:13 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: dynachrome

Done


21 posted on 03/23/2013 6:33:43 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: magna carta

61% NO now.


22 posted on 03/23/2013 6:36:10 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: magna carta

Voted NO. Thank you!


23 posted on 03/23/2013 7:01:33 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416 "It’s one thing to make a law, It’s another to enforce it.")
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To: Standing Wolf
1. Close the borders.

UNTIL THIS IS DONE WE SHOULD NOT BE WORRYING ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE ILLEGAL ALIENS. END OF STORY. We don't need no stinking "COMPREHENSIVE" solution - take them one at a time and focus like a laser. It is not the illegal alien vote that politicians need to be pandering to it is the LEGAL CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY.
24 posted on 03/23/2013 7:13:20 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: magna carta

I’m a member of our county Federated Republican Women and several of our group are state and national members. NONE of us are for amnesty. I’m surprised this attitude towards amnesty on the national level hasn’t come up at our meetings.

Guess it’s time for me to ask!


25 posted on 03/23/2013 7:26:57 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: Tennessee Nana; magna carta; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”and when they turned 18 it was now their crime as well as their parents when they didnt turn themselves in and go home to get to the back of the line..”

This country is way beyond that. The GOP is lining up to give them the vote.

But I always wondered:
1) Why isn't it a felony for adults to bring or leave a child in here illegally?
2) Why doesn't the federal government cut off funding for schools who don't report kids who are illegal

My point is that once you let the kids grow up here and to go to school here then you have created a human sympathy drama that you cant win against. That is the reality. You see it now playing out tragically.

So as late as it is add these to the bi-partision amnesty bills as amendments.

Chris Hayes on MSNBC today said :"Republicans are deluding themselves if they think that Hispanics will vote for them just because they sign onto an immigration reform bill"
But this is exactly what McCain, Rub, Paul and the others are trying to convince us.

26 posted on 03/23/2013 7:30:23 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: magna carta

The RWF has always been liberal, even when and if conservatives took over individual clubs, the most liberal from each club/groups of clubs was picked for leadership.
The higher up the ranks the more liberal the women became.


27 posted on 03/23/2013 7:34:29 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: magna carta; mickie; flaglady47
Freeped and bumped.

C'mon, freepers, vote! This is a mini-freep. This is what we're here for, not to just sit by staring at one's screen like a lump all the time. Even if you don't like polls, vote anyhow. The results will be used in some way or other, you can count on it.

Let's pull together when we get the opportunity!

Leni

28 posted on 03/23/2013 7:42:50 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal

Thanks Guys...spreading it to some Euro Immi-fighters too....


29 posted on 03/23/2013 8:18:48 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: magna carta; radu
Magna Carta, I went to the site looking to read about the National Federation of Republican Women officially making the push for amnesty for illegal aliens but couldn't find anything about them supporting or pushing for amnesty. All I found was the poll you listed.

Could you please point me in the direction of where you read about them promoting amnesty. Thanks!


30 posted on 03/23/2013 9:04:01 PM PDT by bd476
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To: LtKerst

The National Federation of Republican Women, which I am a member of through my State Federation, is a wonderful organization that does more to elect Republicans in a day this whole forum has done since it started. They asked a damn question. So what.


31 posted on 03/23/2013 9:08:58 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: magna carta; radu; MinuteGal; Tzimisce; Amberdawn; LtKerst; Standing Wolf; House Atreides; ...

Magna Carta, on the National Federation of Republican Women site which you have also linked above, under their link "Current Issues" I found the page below which not only has nothing supporting your claim that the National Federation of Republican Women are promoters of amnesty for illegal aliens, or as you have labeled the group "amnesty pushers," in fact, the National Federation of Republican Women appear to be anything but "amnesty pushers."

Magna Carta, I realize that this is my second request where I am asking again, that if you do have information which supports your claim that the National Federation of Republican Women are "amnesty pushers," please post a link to an article which you feel proves your point.

If your allegations are true, it would be something I think that many would be interested in reading. Thanks!



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32 posted on 03/23/2013 10:11:35 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

I was president of the San Jose RWF for three years, I had to resign when I ran for office, I stand by my statement.
The farther up the chain, the more liberal they become, I do NOT care what they say their mission is.


33 posted on 03/23/2013 11:16:37 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Hildy

No, it is the conservatives who do the work, and it conservatism that is rejected.
I know from experience.


34 posted on 03/23/2013 11:18:43 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: bd476

Thanks for your reply, but I think you are wrong. I have heard it called “chain immigration”, in which, once legal, a person may bring in relatives ahead of the line. No politician is going to deport parents of these kids who were brought here illegally.


36 posted on 03/24/2013 5:27:50 AM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: bd476

How about simply reading the page linked to?

NEWS RELEASE: NFRW Urges Federal Government to Tackle Immigration Reform; Calls for Guest Worker Program, Legal Status for Minors


37 posted on 03/24/2013 7:53:14 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: bd476

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 03/24/2013 7:59:17 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: bd476
I'll type slower for you.

I was president of the San Jose RWF for three years

Should have been RFW.

I had to resign when I ran for office

I never said forced, it was the policy then that when you ran for and elected office you could not serve as an officer of a club.

I stand by my statement

Previous post.

The farther up the chain, the more liberal they become

Officers (country, region, state, national are chosen from presidents of local clubs, the most liberal are chosen, each move up the chain the most liberal are chosen, so the farther up the chain they you go the more liberal they are.

I do NOT care what they say their mission is.

I do not care what they say their mission is, they are liberal.

39 posted on 03/24/2013 8:13:26 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: dynachrome

FReeped! Please add me to your FPFF ping list. Thx :)


40 posted on 03/24/2013 8:25:26 AM PDT by Jane Long (Background checks? Dandy idea, Mr. President. Shoulda started with yours. - Sarah Palin)
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To: bd476

Here is the position paper: http://www.tfrw.org/UserContent/UserFiles/Immigration%20Policy%20statement%20with%20Hodges%20sig.pdf
written and promoted in the Texas group. The construction/ restaurant industries control our politics and scuttle our immigration enforcement bills EVERY SINGLE TIME.They send out Insurance salesman Norman Adams and Restaurant owner Brad Bailey to the hob-nob republican luncheon circuit to keep these “Republicans” in line.
Center for immigration Studies references the Texas Solution here: http://www.cis.org/krikorian/gop-platform-jobs-jobs-jobs-—-illegal-aliens

Currently, this(Tx Solution) lobby is also pushing to overturn requirements for citizenship for a Texas Drivers License.

They need that poll to show they did not stray from viewpoints supported by their flock. However really they did, many were surprised by this little alignment.


41 posted on 03/24/2013 8:26:24 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: Jane Long

You be added!


42 posted on 03/24/2013 8:27:24 AM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Standing Wolf

“3. Round up all the illegal aliens and send them back.”

Not even needed. Just end the freebies and enforce employment laws. Once they have no goodies and no job here, they WILL be drawn back to a Mexico that is actually booming economically right now.


43 posted on 03/24/2013 10:26:14 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: bd476; svcw

Like most large Republican groups these days, the NFRW is fractured. However, we all band together to do the work. And as far as Conservatism being rejected? It’s our fault because we suck with our message and our messengers. As long as we keep doing exactly this...fighting about who does what and how Conservative they are, we will never regain power..and that’s what it’s ultimately about. Democrats know this, so they band together to make sure, no matter what, their candidates are elected, even if it’s not their ideal candidate. Until we realize that, we’re screwed.

I am a President of a Federated Club in Arizona, have been for four years. I did not step down when I ran for office, which I ultimately won. I’m still a President, I am Conservative and I am proud to be a member of NFRW


44 posted on 03/24/2013 3:23:55 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Hildy

Congrats.

When I ran for assembly in CA, early ‘90, I was told that I could not hold office in FRW and run for an elected office.


45 posted on 03/24/2013 3:37:57 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

Really? I’m surprised. I’m in Arizona. Our Governor, Jan Brewer is a member of AZFRW and I think she was a President when she ran, like me, for County Supervisor.

Did you win your office?


46 posted on 03/24/2013 3:43:08 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Hildy

Nope.

A liberal democrat did, it was a great experience, however.


47 posted on 03/24/2013 3:45:42 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: svcw

Yes, it is. Until you run for office, you have no idea how much work it is, and how expensive it is to do it right. And that’s the problem.


48 posted on 03/24/2013 4:08:49 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Tzimisce

Tee hee!


49 posted on 03/25/2013 12:55:10 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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