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To: Amerisraelhere

For some reason MacArthur didn’t think there were 300,000 Chinese military on the border of North Korea before they invaded.


3 posted on 03/31/2013 8:09:50 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
MacArthur didn't want there to be 300,000 Chinese troops on the Yalu. Marine and ROK units in northeast Korea were reporting captures/defections of Chinese troops from over 20 divisions if memory serves. But X Corp commander Ned Almond USA - racist, incompetent suck-up that he was, knew that MacArthur didn't want there to be Chinese troops in Korea and either didn't forward these details to Tokyo or Sutherland, who also knew that MacArthur didn't want there to be a massive Chinese army about to attack him, dismissed the reports he received as being a few Chinese "volunteers" serving in the DPRK army.
16 posted on 03/31/2013 9:15:53 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Comintern.... in this time frame the Soviets and the Red Chinee were buddies. Managed by Stalin. Therefore the compromise of intel on the chinee horde probably was accomplished simply, through the perfumed coterie of army intel pukes who were Macarthur’s “court jesters”. Meanwhile the ground intel advance people knew the chinee were over the yalu, lots of them and coming.
Don’t forget Mac was willing to stop them with nukes since they were after all fodder for the Soviets. But the geniuses with loaded diapers at State were worried this would “bring in” the sovs. The sovs were already “in” there, with 26K troops post WWII, in yet another proxy war of their expansion. So one could say the continuation of the penetration by the Soviets of the FDR admin into the Truman haberdashery closet was quite effective. The red scare and the pussy in the white house. Appeasement has always lead to needless death of warriors. And politicians always lie. Never discount McCarthur’s emperor status at that point. He Was seriously right about Indochina- never get in a land war there (so, of course we did despite Eisenhower warning of the mil/indust complex-—sound familiar?)

Sino-Soviet split happened later with a sino-soviet border war that has been largely overlooked.

Parenthetically WEB Griffin has his character McCoy in the thick of this with some interesting plausibilities of the time and the nascent OSS/CIA vs. Army intel.

But, uh it’s OK we have John Kerry on the case... a comintern operative puke gigolo. A cast of characters and we are in bad hands.... again.


23 posted on 03/31/2013 10:24:13 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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