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Obama to Top Brass: Will you fire on American Citizens?
NextNewsNetwork via YouTube ^ | January 23, 2013

Posted on 04/04/2013 6:03:27 AM PDT by Texas Fossil

The Obama administration is openly escalating its campaign against private gun ownership, and shaking up the top ranks of the military command structure -- but is it also preparing to make war on the American population? According to a person identified as a former senior military official, the answer to that shocking question is yes.

World-renowned educator and human rights activist Jim Garrow says that the source, man regarded as "one of America's foremost military heroes," told him that President Obama is using a new litmus test for "determining who will stay and who must go" among top-ranked military leaders. That test is whether they will fire on US citizens or not. Garrow says that his source made the disclosure in order to "sound the alarm" over the administration's plans.

While Garrow will not yet reveal the identity of the source, it's important to note that Garrow himself is a man of considerable accomplishment. He is the founder of the Bethune Institute, which has established hundreds of schools throughout China. Three years ago, he was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for his work though a group called Pink Pagoda, which combat "gendercide" in China -- that is, the practice of rescuing baby girls who had been abandoned or targeted for infanticide because of the government's one-child policy. He was personally involved in helping to save the lives of more than 50,000 Chinese girls. He joins Gary Franchi on WHDT World News to discuss this new "Litmus Test."

*No party or entity depicted in this broadcast advocates insurrection against the government of the United States of America.


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To: laweeks

Yep Deep Kimchi.


21 posted on 04/04/2013 6:28:17 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: The Great RJ
I still trust that most US soldiers would not act on orders to shoot US civilians. I have long feared that Obama is setting himself up to become dictator and just needs the right “crisis” as a pretext to stage a coup.

Keep in mind that while some soldiers would hesitate when ordered to fire on Americans, the majority probably would not. It would not come down to a matter of conscience, but a matter of conditioning. You can bet that the troops would be thoroughly "briefed" beforehand and most would believe that they were doing their patriotic duty.

I have thought all along that 0bama is setting himself up to be dictator. 0bama's move to purge the Generals that would put The Constitution first is a step to ensure that he would not encounter any opposition when he makes his move, and I certainly don't expect congress to do anything. The courts, all the way up to the SCOTUS are in his pocket, so he is just a couple of moves away.

22 posted on 04/04/2013 6:29:31 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: Texas Fossil
"That test is whether they will fire on US citizens or not."

Fabian head fake. It's not about firing on U.S. citizens. We already know they would. Our history reveals many examples. The goal is to divide and severely weaken the military through institutional conflict so that with minimal resistance, it can be replaced by Obama's "national security force." First, the officer corps. One must be set against another to get the ball rolling. Eliminate "Duty, honor, country" and the rest will fall into place.
23 posted on 04/04/2013 6:36:43 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Look how hard it has been in Iraq and Afghanistan dealing with at most 25,000 insurgents. Russia threw up it’s hands and withdrew from Afghanistan.

I would hope that America could field quite a few more if it comes to it. I certainly wouldn’t want to continue to live in a country that has slipped into an authoritarian dictatorship, nor would many others. Once they step over that line, there’s nothing much left to lose.


24 posted on 04/04/2013 6:37:29 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Sorry to be so harsh but, people get the kind of government they deserve.

Obama was elected TWICE. The danger of a democracy, or even a democratic republic, is that the low information voter will get used to voting himself some of your money. Look around at every other democracy, it has happened everywhere.

25 posted on 04/04/2013 6:38:09 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: Travis McGee

Am I surprised at such a revelation? I’ve thought for some time that the willingness to fire upon American Civilians was a litmus test for advancement to 0-6 and above.

But as I contemplate the decreasing morale on our military around the world as the result of nearly insane Rules of Engagement on the enemy/insurgents who are not clearly identified by uniform from the general population and the resulting increase of casualties as the consequences. I have to wonder, if the order comes down to wage war on “American Insurgents” will the same rules apply or will they be relaxed to the point that even the slightest provocation or suspicion of belligerence will be cause for lethal force?

Your guess is as good as mine. But I think that the consequences and backlash to such actions will be like a “terrible swift sword”.


26 posted on 04/04/2013 6:38:48 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Texas Fossil
But this fool King Obama and his generals forgot that during WWII if was reported that there were a few bullet holes in the back of the helmets of some of the rotten leaders. Think about it. Our military will not shoot their mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters. The gun will be pointed at the criminal insane, King Obama and his troops.
27 posted on 04/04/2013 6:41:21 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Keep in mind that while some soldiers would hesitate when ordered to fire on Americans, the majority probably would not. It would not come down to a matter of conscience, but a matter of conditioning.

Sure. They're all just unthinking robots, programmed by Obama. When the order comes, it won't matter to most soldiers that they're going to fire on their neighbors and kin. Nope. Not even a blink.

Their oaths to the Constitution? Don't be silly. The Emperor hath commanded them to slay you, Yankee scum. Now you must die.

Yeah. Just like that.

28 posted on 04/04/2013 6:42:38 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: PowderMonkey

“Fabian head fake...”

Good call!


29 posted on 04/04/2013 6:45:01 AM PDT by petro45acp (It's a fabian thing.....how do you boil a frog? How's that water feelin right about now?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Sorry to be so harsh but, people get the kind of government they deserve.
Obama was elected TWICE. The danger of a democracy, or even a democratic republic, is that the low information voter will get used to voting himself some of your money. Look around at every other democracy, it has happened everywhere.

You are absolutely correct my friend.

Some places aren't suited to democracy because it really doesn't amount to much more than mob rule. 0bama and his regime figured this out and bought the mob with handouts of MY tax dollars and free 0bamaphones.

30 posted on 04/04/2013 6:45:53 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Most thankfully would turn against Obama, for this I am CONFIDENT.


31 posted on 04/04/2013 6:46:50 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Windflier

OK, smarty. Do you recall Capt Ernest Medina and Lt William Calley of Vietnam infamy? I was in the military at the time and I vividly remember the “training” we received after the bad press generated by My Lai - follow orders first and question later. Now, firing on Americans is a different matter, but those students at Kent State might beg to differ.


32 posted on 04/04/2013 6:49:50 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: Biggirl
Most thankfully would turn against Obama, for this I am CONFIDENT.

I pray you are correct.

I have wondered what might spark an incident that could justify firing on Americans, and how is would be reported afterwards.

33 posted on 04/04/2013 6:53:47 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

A student or a non-student shit stirrer at Kent State fired the first shot. It was intended to provoke a violent incident.

What should have been the rules of engagement for the National Guard? Wait until someone takes a bullet before firing?


34 posted on 04/04/2013 6:57:09 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: The Great RJ
If it is firing on civilized Americans, then I have a problem with it. If it is firing on the hordes that will be coming out of Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Los Angeles and other urban hell holes when the EBT cards stop working.... there really may not be any other choice.


35 posted on 04/04/2013 7:06:22 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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To: listenhillary
A student or a non-student shit stirrer at Kent State fired the first shot.

I've never heard or read that, though I don't doubt it. But this makes my point: Even if the soldiers have no intention of firing on Americans, they are likely to be placed in a scenario where their options are very limited. And as you point out, the Rules of Engagement will be vague, but defined by the Generals who owe fealty to 0bama.

36 posted on 04/04/2013 7:08:57 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (It's not "GUN CONTROL"! It's "PEOPLE CONTROL"!)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
I vividly remember the “training” we received after the bad press generated by My Lai - follow orders first and question later. Now, firing on Americans is a different matter, but...

No no. Not a different matter at all, according to you and other quivering masses of jelly around here. According to you, all it takes to overcome a person's innate sense of loyalty to their kin and countrymen, is a bit of stern brain washing.

And before you even go there, I can predict how the rest of your thought process goes...

Obama gives the order, and American troops immediately seize every firearm in the country, killing or imprisoning anyone who dares to resist, then all the remaining conservatives, patriots, and normal Americans are rounded up and shipped in box cars to the FEMA re-education camps.

I've heard your bleak and demoralizing message a thousand times on this website. Doesn't matter that it's nothing more than a paranoid fantasy. No one stops you doomers from repeating it ad infinitum, and so you continue to smear that crap all over the forum.

Go ahead. Keep pimping for the Emperor. You do know you're doing his bidding, don't you?

37 posted on 04/04/2013 7:17:50 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty; listenhillary

No “shot” was fired by a student. Somebody reported hearing a shot/fireworks, and the order was given to fire. Those (four) students killed were not near the demonstration, but traversing the campus between classes. The point being, an order was given to fire upon U.S. citizens on U.S. soil. The order was obeyed. The right or wrong of it matters not. It happened.


38 posted on 04/04/2013 7:22:42 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Isn’t the problem inherent in the concept of “democratic”? As long as there was a concept of “constitutional republic” rather than “democratic republic” or “democracy” we had a chance. Most people think you are crazy if you tell them this country is NOT supposed to be a democracy but the constitution clearly guarantees to each state a “republican” form of government, the word democracy or democratic does not appear nor does “representative democracy” even though some supposedly educated people may think so.

Inherent in the word democracy is the idea that every citizen should vote, this is a fatal error, a constitutional republic allows for qualifications on voting and this country started on the road to destruction when we began to drop voter qualifications, now we don’t even require citizenship or the ability to fog a mirror in practice. When illegal aliens and corpses can vote their is little point in going to the polls.

As for those who claim that democracy and republic refer to the same form of government they are simply ignorant.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw


39 posted on 04/04/2013 7:24:58 AM PDT by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: ShadowAce
I hear Westboro baptist is looking for new members.

CC

40 posted on 04/04/2013 7:26:34 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Hey liberals, what part of "unalienable" don't you understand?)
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