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Maddow:‘Only the NRA claims that we shouldn't pass laws that people won’t follow’(MSNBC 4/5/2013)
SOL of course | 4/5/2013 | SOL

Posted on 04/05/2013 7:35:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs

Tonight (4/5/2013) clever MSNBC Maddow was playing clips of NRA Wayne Wayne LaPierre responding to the question:
What is wrong with these different proposed gun laws like background checks and magazine sizes?’ (clip of Megan Kelly question )
with ‘Because criminals won’t follow them only law abiding citizens will’(LaPierre response) .

Now I could easily come up with arguments pros/cons of using that as a general guideline for rejecting laws.

But then Maddow throws in her punch line :
No one else but the NRA uses that argument against laws to be passed, that we shouldn’t pass laws that won’t be followed.”

So immediately an example came to mind:

How about liberals very frequently used argument that we cant pass laws against abortions because pregnant women will find a way to get them anyway and that will be dangerous for them to do.
Or Restated libs including Maddow argue
: PREGNANT WOMEN WON’T FOLLOW ABORTION LAWS SO WE SHOULDN’T PASS THEM.

Boom!


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; gunlaws; guns; libstv; maddow; moronwithmegaphone; movedthread; msnbc; secondamendment
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1 posted on 04/05/2013 7:35:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; ...

Ping


2 posted on 04/05/2013 7:38:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

Two years......armed rebellion or death -
Standup and fight or lay down and die.


3 posted on 04/05/2013 7:39:06 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: sickoflibs

Good counter.

But it would be lost on Maddow. She wouldn’t know what pregnancy is.


4 posted on 04/05/2013 7:39:19 PM PDT by whitedog57
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To: NFHale; Gilbo_3

Guns and guts ping!


5 posted on 04/05/2013 7:40:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

I submit the Progressive position on Border security and drug laws as proof madcow is a dumb little boy.


6 posted on 04/05/2013 7:41:17 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I predict the exact same Freepers will hate the GOP Candidate for: 2016,2020,2024,2028, 2032.)
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To: svcw
Two years......armed rebellion or death - Standup and fight or lay down and die.

Or, to put it a different way, as verbalized in 1970-71, "Freedom's just another word for 'nothing left to lose...'"

We'll be seeing more and more of that sentiment expressed as the response to the attempt to make the U.S. "just another Soviet Union, or Cuba, or Venezuela," countries in the dust bin of history.

7 posted on 04/05/2013 7:53:59 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: sickoflibs

It is actually a very weak argument.

All you need to do is look at obvious intuitive laws.

Why have murder laws when there will always be murderers? Only law-abiding people will not murder?


8 posted on 04/05/2013 7:58:56 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
RE :”It is actually a very weak argument.”

I said I could argue pros and cons.

Yes, on one hand it is not the strongest argument for those reasons you give, esp in political fights like these.

but

He is saying that the new laws wont prevent murders and will only make criminals out of those who don't commit crimes with them now.

9 posted on 04/05/2013 8:06:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Suicide is illegal. How’s that working out?

IMO, laws against murder (for example) for the most part end up punishing the murderer after the fact rather than actually preventing murder.


10 posted on 04/05/2013 8:07:51 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: sickoflibs
Who give a damn about what these crazy lunatics said on PMSNBC. We the silent majority agree with the NRA; the 2nd amendment is here to stay.
11 posted on 04/05/2013 8:11:51 PM PDT by dhuynh73 (Reagan Country)
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To: whitedog57
But it would be lost on Maddow. She wouldn’t know what pregnancy is.

Sure she does... To Madcow, pregnancy is an illness one must first contract in order to get an abortion, preferably an abortion paid by taxpayers.

Mark

12 posted on 04/05/2013 8:11:58 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: dhuynh73
RE :”Who give a damn about what these crazy lunatics said on PMSNBC.”

Well, it wouldn't matter at all if they were not on a winning streak 3 out of the past 4 national elections (2006 to 2012) two of (the 3) which were POTUS years.

Maybe we need to start trying to stop assuming they will always lose and counter their arguments.

13 posted on 04/05/2013 8:23:41 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: sickoflibs

The comparison isn’t accurate. Most of the new gun laws are enacting law restricting a normally legal activity born out of a recognized right, because a very few people might abuse it.
A better comparison would be like requiring woman to register within 24 hour of finding out if they are pregnant so that the government can monitor the pregnancy and prosecute the mother if she fails through negligence or criminal act to bring the child to term.

There, one could argue that the only people who would register would be the ones who didn’t intend to kill their children, so what good would it do at the cost of extending goverment intrusiveness?


14 posted on 04/05/2013 8:28:19 PM PDT by Z.Hobbs
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To: sickoflibs

Oh how I wish there was a Conservative alternative to MSNBC.


15 posted on 04/06/2013 7:36:49 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

We’ll see if this has any promise

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324392804578358743706989224.html


16 posted on 04/06/2013 7:39:48 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: sickoflibs

Thanks for the ping.


17 posted on 04/06/2013 8:55:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (New AP term for Illegal Aliens IS Undocumented Democrats.... Jay Leno)
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To: sickoflibs

B U M P


18 posted on 04/06/2013 12:02:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: sickoflibs

Someone said liberalism is a mental illness. This helps prove the point.

Thank you for the ping.


19 posted on 04/06/2013 4:45:42 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Last Dakotan; GOPJ; stephenjohnbanker; fatnotlazy; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; AuntB; GOPsterinMA; ...
RE :”Oh how I wish there was a Conservative alternative to MSNBC.”

You hit on a good and very valid point I been making for a while.

I watch MSNBC much more than I do FNC because I get more out of seeing what they are up to on MSNBC than FNC commercialized entertainment channel.
I watch Cavuto daily and sometimes Baur and Megan Kelly is entertaining. No Hannity, O Reilly or Greta for me and F+F is terrible

FNC is the GOP/entertainment channel and MSNBC is the liberal(progressive) political activist channel.
They (MSNBC) are constantly on issues and arguments and progressive movements. Maddow, O Donnell, Hayes, Harris Perry even sleeze-bag Sharpton are activists,

More proof : MSNBC is live EVERY primetime (8 to 11 weeknights) and FNC is playing pre-recorded shows at those same times. They have a mission. FNC mission is just to make $$$$.

20 posted on 04/06/2013 7:38:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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