Posted on 04/06/2013 8:27:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
The Trayvon Martin drama was an example of another election year get out the black vote campaign. They did it in 2000 and 2004, there is always some white racists lurking around during presidential election years. First, they tried to get the black population worked up with the fake burning of black churches in the south, then they used the William Byrd murder to hang around George W. Bush neck because Texas does not have a hate crime law, never mind that it does have a death penalty which the murderers of William Byrd got.
This is ... law? To me, it's chicanery for Nelson to gloss this over.
The way to get this to go away is get a a large Hispanic crowd before the court house protesting the discrimination and unfair treatment of an Hispanic man. The Democrats cannot afford to have a full scale war between the blacks and Hispanics so something would quietly be worked out behind closed doors, besides the Trayvon case was a set up to get the black voters angry so that they would turn out in large numbers to reelect Obama—politics, politics, politics.
Florida has a statutory provision that grants "immunity" to people who are justified in the use of force. If that person is sued, civilly, the plaintiff has to pay the defendant's legals costs and all other costs and fees.
Usually, a criminal court judge finds immunity, but the same could happen in a civil court, even at the conclusion of the trial.
The burden of proof for finding immunity is "more likely than not" that defendant's story (in this case, Zimmerman) is correct. The opposition does not get to use conjecture, they must have positive evidence.
Well, I guess one is free to sue whenever they want. I would think if he were found not guilty they will go after him if he has or has the likely hood of getting any assets. Of course, he could also counter sue Da Travon’s estate but that is worth nothing. Zimmerman would have no actionable reason to go after the Martin’s unless for defamation but my sense is that would be a long shot. In essence, the Martin’s won the lotto, Zimmerman paid for the ticket. Hopefully Crump gets sued and loses his law license to boot, now, that would be justice. And icing on the cake would be in the prosecutor gets removed from office.
Good call.
I guess it all depends on the make up of the jury. If the civil lawsuit jury had a mix of white and Hispanic and other jurors, I think they would judge in Zimmerman’s favor of course there are always some idiots who would judge for the sympathy factor.
Thank you, very informative.
Do you know the standards in florida civil juries? Is it all voting one way or is there a majority for civil or something similar??
Sorry, I have no idea.
If the details of a sealed civil settlement become public then the Plaintiff’s ability to receive his damage award can be impacted. (or so I’ve been told) This is not to say that the award won’t ‘leak’. It will. But it will happen in a time & place that won’t be definitively traceable to the Martin family or their legal representatives.
I just looked it up, it must be unanimous amongst the jury size of 6.
That’s good, I don’t think they will find a jury that would 100% support the Martins.
Pam Bondi and Crump are friends, she was involved in the boot camp case. The reason Judge Nelson denied Crump’s deposition was simply because the powers that be told her to.
Assuming that the criminal trials that occur will feature juries with at least one white person and at least one black one it will be hung jury after hung jury.The civil trial that follows (regardless of the outcome of criminal trials) will surely result in an award of tens of millions.
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