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High-Profile Credible Source Turns Over New Obama Identity Document Fraud Evidence
BirtherReport.com ^ | April 5, 2013 | Carl Gallups and Mike Zullo

Posted on 04/06/2013 3:59:38 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: DeprogramLiberalism

“What is the stupidest thing a president has ever done?”

?????

With Barry, where would you begin?

Since this thread is about the forged BC, I would guess that the unforced error of publishing a forged BC and failing to “flatten the file” could rank right up there with “stupidest thing.”


51 posted on 04/06/2013 8:59:51 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: 22202NOVA
If you or anyone else have PROOF that Obama was born somewhere else, bring it. Otherwise this is just another losing argument. Sorry but you can rant all you want, without PROOF it Means nothing.

Spoken like a true Soros operative via DU.

It's impossible to prove a negative. But it IS possible to prove where he was born.

That Hussein has chosen not to, in an authoritative manner, to include all school records just underscores the total fraud.

Can you prove he wasn't born Havana Cuba?

52 posted on 04/06/2013 9:11:21 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Seizethecarp
Since this thread is about the forged BC, I would guess that the unforced error of publishing a forged BC and failing to “flatten the file” could rank right up there with “stupidest thing.”

Nope. Read the link.

53 posted on 04/06/2013 9:12:53 PM PDT by DeprogramLiberalism (<- a profile worth reading)
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To: LucyT

54 posted on 04/06/2013 9:17:46 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Revolting cat!

If Zulu ever does get through the shield of deceit and Obama was going to be impeached then guess what would happen.

Obama would resign.

Biden would be sworn in.

And Biden would pardon Obama.

Think Nixon.

Obama will never be impeached.


55 posted on 04/06/2013 9:17:59 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Jonah Vark

So you’re telling us that the entire ‘new evidence’ Zullo presentation is based upon the July 2012 presentation? ... I asked if there is video of Zullo’s recent Washington presentation. Apparently that isn’t intelligible.


56 posted on 04/06/2013 10:03:11 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Jonah Vark; butterdezillion

Jonah Vark said:

“...My children had to provide their college transcripts in order to get a job....”

I had to do the same for my job apps.

Butterdezillion,

another aspect to the whole thing, although its not directly birth cert related it IS job app related


57 posted on 04/06/2013 10:05:16 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Brown Deer

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Heh.


58 posted on 04/06/2013 10:53:43 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Brown Deer

We have a winner


59 posted on 04/06/2013 11:07:56 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Jonah Vark

Okay, I finally found and lsitened to the Gallup interview from Friday with Mike Zullo. It certainly sounds like things are about to come to a head, but I still wonder how this is ever going to end up in a criminal court case if the legislators who took oaths to uphold our Constitution and therefore rule of law continue to violate that oath and be complicit in the criminality of little barry bastard boy? There isn’t a Sheriff in America who would walk up to the White Hut gate and show a warrant for little bastard’s arrest, and the ones who would run an impeachment trial are already vioolating their oath the Constitution that would need enforcing, so how does all this bring Bastard Barry Soetoro up on charges? Until A Gowdy steps forward in Congress, to confront this verminous lying fraud, men like West will continue to put their career desires above the nations law.


60 posted on 04/06/2013 11:19:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

They don’t need to arrest Obama. If they have the goods on one or more of his underlings, the whole thing will topple like a house of cards. Remember, Nixon wasn’t the one who broke into Watergate.


61 posted on 04/06/2013 11:40:10 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

Um, seems to me the democrips contolled Nixon’s fate. We’ve seen what fraudulent republicants will do to protect a scumbag like crinton the rapist, and the democrips control the congressional body which would run an impeachment trial, and Harry the fraudulent Mormon runs that, and there are dozens of republicants with too many degenrate histories to uphold impeachment letters, so tell me how the Nixon era is relevant to the obamaroid era?


62 posted on 04/06/2013 11:52:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

If one or more of Obama’s underlings goes down for document fraud, Obama will be out of office soon after. Politicians won’t save obvious crooks. That’s the point of Nixon. No one wanted to save him from either side. Democrats were able to form a bloc to protect IFP Clinton because perjury to cover up infidelity (in their minds) is a procedural issue or technicality, not a criminal issue. Document manipulation to commit fraud would be a different matter entirely. And there’s no way Obama will be able to divorce himself from such fraud.


63 posted on 04/07/2013 12:30:47 AM PDT by edge919
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To: PoloSec

Then again, if you’ve got proof that he’s ineligble for whatever reason, please present such proof. I know many people would be interested in seeing proof of ineligibility. Remember that under our system he does t have to disprove these conspiracies...you have to prove your statements that he’s ineligible. I await whatever documentation, photographic evidence, eyewitness statements or what have you that prove ineligibility.


64 posted on 04/07/2013 4:44:21 AM PDT by 22202NOVA
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To: edge919

IFP Clinton? What’s the acronym?


65 posted on 04/07/2013 4:44:27 AM PDT by 22202NOVA
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To: 22202NOVA

OBOT TROLL, a mountain of evidence has already been presented in over a hundred cases, yet no judge has ruled on the merits.

Please explain just this one anomaly:

http://www.wnd.com/images/misc/071511letters6.jpg


66 posted on 04/07/2013 5:14:13 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: MHGinTN

The BC has never been presented in a court.

If they can get it in a court for purposes of removing it as a fraud from Federal Web sites, that could take all the sting out of the “Birther” ridicule.

Once that weapon of ridicule is gone, Obama will be on vacation, avoiding the press, 24-7.

Also, they need to get his SS records purged as fraudulent from Selective service. They need to be removed.


67 posted on 04/07/2013 5:25:33 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Revolting cat!
-- Was there even a trial for Bubba Krintong? --

Yes. That's the venue for Arlen Specter's "Not proven." The Senate voted on the articles of impeachment, and did not adopt them. Before they voted, evidence and argument were presented for the Senate's consideration.

-- Why was he [Nixon] allowed to escape a trial? --

The only remedies available to the Senate, on impeachment, are removal from office, and an order that the person is disqualified from office in the future. Once Nixon leaves office, the case is half moot. Of impeachment convictions, the vast majority only impose removal from office. See Alcee Hastings, impeached, convicted, removed from office, then ran for office and won.

-- A flawed system if you asked me. --

The system is okay. The players in it are worse than worthless, however. The government is mostly corrupt.

68 posted on 04/07/2013 5:29:56 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: MHGinTN
Um, seems to me the democrips contolled Nixon’s fate

Go back and look at headline after headline. Yes the Dems were going to impeach but it was the press that pushed his decision.

69 posted on 04/07/2013 5:38:45 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: 22202NOVA

50% or more of the People already believe the person in the Peoples office of POTUS is a fraud. When proof is shown the end will come quickly for many.

And the little doggie too....or rather natural born Iranian adviser....


70 posted on 04/07/2013 6:07:58 AM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: JohnnyP

The reverse drill is to find all the 100% identical letters and numbers. There are many perfect digital duplicates. Every single pixel perfectly digitally copied.

LFBC = Laughably Fake Birth Certificate


71 posted on 04/07/2013 6:12:57 AM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: PA-RIVER; MHGinTN

One would have question if someone at selective service would really be a tool for Obama and fake his Selective Service card.

The answer is - it appears so....

http://www.hillbillyreport.com/blog/richard-s-flahavan/

“...we felt that Richard Flahavan was possibly covering for Senator Mitch McConnell.”

Flahavan is who answered the FIOA for Obama’s SS information.

He may have a full time job of covering tracks for politicians of both parties.


72 posted on 04/07/2013 6:18:22 AM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: bluecat6

In February, I had the opportunity to talk with a family friend who served as Postmaster for 30 years in Illinois. I showed him the postmark of Obama’s 1980 Selective Service registration. I did not show him the entire document, only a copy of the postmark.
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in-chief-falsify-selective-service-registration-never-actually-register-obamas-draft-registration-raises-serious-questions/

As many of you may already know there is controversy about the year, 1980, on the registration. It reads “08” when it should be “1980” and the “08” is off center. Well, former postmaster’s response was that he’d never seen anything like that before. He went on to explain to me how the date is changed on the stamp. His exact words were, “That can’t be official”.

If Obama registered for the draft in 1980 why did the SS provide a falsified document under FOIA?


73 posted on 04/07/2013 6:41:35 AM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: bluecat6

And incidentally, the Selective Service is an independent civilian agency within the EXECUTIVE BRANCH of the Federal Government.

Why is Obama’s draft registration card of such great importance?

Carter re-instituted draft registration in July 1980.

The penalty for failing to register is, upon conviction, a fine of up to $250,00 or imprisonment for up to five years, or both. Persons who fail to register may be denied federal financial aid, including Pell Grants, Federal loans, etc. They may not participate in any Federal job training programs or be hired within many areas of the Federal Government.


74 posted on 04/07/2013 7:23:40 AM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: JohnnyP

Maybe because the evidence isn’t deemed credible?


75 posted on 04/07/2013 7:39:26 AM PDT by 22202NOVA
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To: bluecat6

Bluecat, I agree he has some issues and a lot of questions. I also think this is nothing but a wild goose chase.


76 posted on 04/07/2013 7:39:26 AM PDT by 22202NOVA
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To: 22202NOVA

Do you believe the two “n’s” shown could have been made by the same typewriter on the one document?


77 posted on 04/07/2013 9:41:35 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: 22202NOVA

Impeached Former President ... it’s based on the way the AP uses titles, only abbreviated.


78 posted on 04/07/2013 9:49:48 AM PDT by edge919
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To: JohnnyP

Sure, it’s possible. It’s also possible that he was in fact born in Honolulu on August 5, 1961, as he says. Got proof otherwise? Admissible in court proof? That’s the standard and the burden doesn’t fall to him to prove. It falls to those making the allegations. Where’s the beef?


79 posted on 04/07/2013 10:14:42 AM PDT by 22202NOVA (DoD civilian, retired Army and proud of my service.)
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To: 22202NOVA

Here the thing. You don’t need to prove Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii. All you have to show is that the public record is not clear, such as how his 1991 bio said he was born in Kenya, his wife said his home country was Kenya, and his stepgrandmother said he passed through her hands and that he is a “son of the soil.” For Obama’s claim of Hawaiian birth to then hold up, the burden is now on him to present a certified document in court. If he did, it would be self-authenticating, but only if the opposing party gets a chance to inspect the alleged document prior to its submission. Otherwise any claim is nothing more than hearsay. That’s how the rules of evidence work. The claims of Kenyan birth are just as compelling as any claim Obama was born in Hawaii, especially since he is the source of one of those born-in-Kenya claims.


80 posted on 04/07/2013 10:41:02 AM PDT by edge919
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To: 22202NOVA

It’s not possible that n’s of such different sizes could have from the same typewriter.

If you actually believe that, you are an idiot. If you are just arguing it’s possible, for the sake of a usurper, then you are evil.


81 posted on 04/07/2013 10:46:54 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: edge919

The fact that the BCs have never been ‘officially’ used for anything it begs the question - how do we know Obama has qualified under the simple age requirement of the Constitution?

I always thought an interesting tactic would be to challenge the age requirement in court - and then see what is offered up as evidence. Most people would just produce their BC. I bet they would not in this case.


82 posted on 04/07/2013 10:58:09 AM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: Jonah Vark

If Obama was living as foreign student in the US he would not have had to register.

This would fit the pattern of the much discussed and hotly debated ‘naturalized Obama’ scenario based its timeline of a a 1983 naturalization.

The image shows a supposed document filled out in Hawaii in 1980. However, Obama was living in LA in between his freshman and sophomore years at Oxy in the summer of 1980 - not Hawaii.


83 posted on 04/07/2013 11:03:27 AM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: 22202NOVA; Beckwith
Go here, Obama -- A Kenyan? -- All Of These Sources Say So, and read the accounts from about 30 different sources. This one is from the author of "Dreams from My Father" and about the 29th account.

In Obama's biographical book Dreams from My Father, on page 126 (click page number), Obama tells the account of Obama's mom telling him that some day it was intended that all three of them were to "return to Kenya", i.e., his father, mother, and Obama. Therefore to return somewhere you must have been there first. Thus all three of them were there before, i.e., when Obama was born.

There is plenty of other accounts including first hand testimony of at least two people with whom the person known as BHO has told them he was born in Kenya.

There are NO documents existing that prove the person known as BHO was born in Hawaii. There is also NO person on this site that believes he was born in Hawaii other than you and perhaps the two Obots that have not been zotted yet.

84 posted on 04/07/2013 11:18:44 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: GregNH

The operative word is “believe”. You believe what you want, but without proof you won’t get anywhere. I served in the military. I have two DD 214s to prove it. The one from the early 1980s is typewritten. The one from 10 years ago is computer generated. Would I send them to you for analysis? No. You could find things not to believe.


85 posted on 04/07/2013 12:20:34 PM PDT by 22202NOVA (DoD civilian, retired Army and proud of my service.)
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To: bluecat6

Thanks for the clarification in regard to foreign students.
I haven’t seen the documentation that reveals BO lived in CA in summer of 1980. Can you save me some time and tell me where I can find it?


86 posted on 04/07/2013 12:22:37 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: 22202NOVA
You're right, I shouldn't use the word believe but I did say this, "There are NO documents existing that prove the person known as BHO was born in Hawaii/'

Which is a statement of fact.

87 posted on 04/07/2013 12:23:24 PM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: Seizethecarp

And then again, if this thing breaks wide open and the usurper is proven to be a usurper then he NEVER was president so impeachment is not necessary.

Impeachment is ONLY for a LEGAL president not a usurper.


88 posted on 04/07/2013 12:30:19 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: 22202NOVA
I served in the military. I have two DD 214s to prove it.

Then post them here. You are new and it would seem you will need some bonafides. Rather than appealing to authority, just post them. If not you can crawl back into your Crystal City hole.
89 posted on 04/07/2013 1:26:34 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

I don’t need to post squat to prove diddly to you. If you don’t like me block me. Otherwise have a nice day. Or whatever kind of day floats your boat.


90 posted on 04/07/2013 2:05:40 PM PDT by 22202NOVA (DoD civilian, retired Army and proud of my service.)
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To: 22202NOVA
If you don’t like me block me.

Actually I find disinformation operatives such as yourself interesting. They retread regularly around here before the ZOT. Who are you really? You can tell us.
91 posted on 04/07/2013 2:09:36 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: 22202NOVA

“.....I served in the military. I have two DD 214s to prove it. The one from the early 1980s is typewritten......”
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So ahead and post them here (after first “sanitizing” them somewhat). Don’t forget to “flatten” them this time.


92 posted on 04/07/2013 3:36:45 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Jonah Vark

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-4101069.html

“Obama had an international circle of friends - “a real eclectic sort of group,” says Vinai Thummalapally, who himself came from Hyderabad, India.”

“Thummalapally lived with Obama the summer of 1980. The two ran together daily, three miles in the early morning, often chatting about their dreams. Thummalapally wanted to start a business back home; Obama talked about helping people.”

Also, there are instances where 999-99-xxxx Social Security number associated with Obama while at Oxy. 999-99-xxxx numbers are used by foreign students who do not have US issued Social Security numbers.


93 posted on 04/07/2013 4:39:06 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: House Atreides

So I can have my identity stolen? No thanks, troll.


94 posted on 04/07/2013 6:34:34 PM PDT by 22202NOVA (DoD civilian, retired Army and proud of my service.)
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To: 22202NOVA

So I can have my identity stolen? No thanks, troll.
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So you say you have something to prove something you alleged but don’t want to post it to actually prove what you’re alleging. Some “proof” that is.

In this regard you’re kind of like Obama, aren’t you? You know-—”I have proof, but will not present it—just trust me.”

And you say I’m the one that’s a troll?


95 posted on 04/07/2013 7:00:05 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

And if I posted it without the personal info, you’d just say it was fake. I don’t know you and don’t care if you believe me or not. I guess that’s the difference. Goodnight sir or ma’am.


96 posted on 04/07/2013 7:04:50 PM PDT by 22202NOVA (DoD civilian, retired Army and proud of my service.)
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To: bluecat6

Thanks for the CBS article. I never saw it before.

It was nauseating to read how wonderful Obama was portrayed
......a good student with a sharp mind and unshakable integrity.......”an unpretentious, down to earth, solidly middle-class guy who seemed somewhat more sophisticated than the average college student......He was an athletic guy. He was gifted in that regard,” said Carpenter. He also remembered Obama being “super bright.....”I want to get into public service,” he recalls Obama saying. “I want to write and help people who are disadvantaged.” ........ Siddiqi fudged his credentials, saying he had a high-paying job at a catering company, but Obama “wanted no part of it. He put down the truth.”......Siddiqi said his female friends thought Obama was “a hunk.”

There was no author mentioned on the article. I wonder if Obama wrote it himself.


97 posted on 04/07/2013 7:12:22 PM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: 22202NOVA

Goodnight sir or ma’am.
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Goodnight, Barack compadre.


98 posted on 04/07/2013 7:16:39 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Jonah Vark

The MSM has written what they are given. Go look for the marriage date of Lolo and Stanley Ann. Time and other MSM outlets documented it dozens of times as 1967. But it was not. It was 1965 and fairly easily to validate. They never did.

Why is 1967 better than 1965? Think Hague Convention.


99 posted on 04/07/2013 7:23:41 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: cherry
I'll throw in that the perotists got him elected, what with their delusions...

Perot led to a deep schism in my family ... and of course I consider him a destructive SOB who waltzed Clinton into the WH.

HOWEVER, considered now by the cold light of dawn, the evil little dweeb was right on the money. Would he have made any difference in the current state of affairs ???? Well, probably at least in comparison to the economically illiterate Tan Trotsky who somehow wound up in the top spot, yes Sir. Other than that, since we're sinking faster than the pumps can handle, we haven't the time for idle speculation

100 posted on 04/08/2013 5:47:01 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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