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ATF Seeks 'Massive' Database of Personal Info: 'Assets, Relatives, Associates and More'
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Posted on 04/06/2013 6:25:16 PM PDT by Perdogg

A recent solicitation from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) reveals that the agency is seeking a "massive" online database capable of pulling up individuals' personal information, connections and associates.

On March 28, ATF posted the notice on FedBizOpps.gov, entitled "Investigative System." The solicitation was updated on April 5 with a few minor changes.

The document says that the system will be utilized by staff "to provide rapid searches on various entities for example; names, telephone numbers, utility data and reverse phone look-ups, as a means to assist with investigations, and background research on people, assets and businesses."

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1 posted on 04/06/2013 6:25:16 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

What could possibly go wrong?


2 posted on 04/06/2013 6:26:58 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Perdogg

Just what they need to keep all those records which it is illegal for them to keep.

I am sure they will come up with some twisted logic claiming they really aren’t keeping those records they are supposed to destroy.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 6:28:19 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: Lurker

The ACLU will be on this quickly. /sarc/


4 posted on 04/06/2013 6:28:40 PM PDT by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: Perdogg

Very Naziesque. I wonder what the DUmmies over at the DUmbster think of their “massas” now.


5 posted on 04/06/2013 6:30:39 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Dude! Where's my Bill of Rights?)
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To: Perdogg

From an IT standpoint, I don’t know which is more fantazamorgical: this or nobamacare.

Whole buncha contractors gonna make a whole buncha money on this. And in the end, after countless delays, budget overruns and missed deadlines, the end product will do maybe 40% of what was originally envisioned. ‘Course, you’ll never hear about that.


6 posted on 04/06/2013 6:31:10 PM PDT by upchuck (Free Republic: faster than a speeding bullet!)
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To: yarddog

I trust the BATF explicitly/sarc


7 posted on 04/06/2013 6:32:18 PM PDT by basil (basil, 2ASisters.org)
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To: Perdogg

8 posted on 04/06/2013 6:33:56 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (PRISON AT BENGHAZI?????)
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To: Perdogg


9 posted on 04/06/2013 6:35:07 PM PDT by WVKayaker ("...once a bell is rung by a biased media, it’s impossible to un-ring it."-Sarah Palin 11/7/12)
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To: basil

I have run into ATF agents who were decent guys but the agency’s managers are intent on violating the Constitution every single chance they get.

At times they have been a rogue agency totally out of control but with the blessings of their superiors.


10 posted on 04/06/2013 6:36:21 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: upchuck

Actually, we heard the lite/Canadian version when they bailed on their long-gun registry after it couldn’t be implemented with the money available, even with additional money infusions. That actually makes it easy to predict a failure to perform in other such over-reach endeavors like the ATF and ACA.


11 posted on 04/06/2013 6:36:26 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Perdogg

This oughtta scare the crap out of every sane American.

I am already going paperless, trying anyway, paying cash everywhere possible and getting receipts and I have nothing to hide. The gov knowing every move I make just creeps me out.

Even on this forum, we are not anonymous. All it takes is a court order to the owner and he has no choice but to comply, nor would I expect him to not comply and give up his freedom.

We must change this ever more encroaching government, it is in no way what the founding fathers envisioned.


12 posted on 04/06/2013 6:38:24 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

Not to worry. They’re only going after the paranoiacs.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 6:40:16 PM PDT by Misterioso ("The difference between a welfare state and a totalitarian state is a matter of time." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Perdogg

We need a database on all feds/ law enforcement/ politicians that has the same info.


14 posted on 04/06/2013 6:51:41 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: Perdogg

Well, my best fren runs a Messican drug cartel. He gess hees guns from the ATF. Then he sells me anytheeng I want. He sole me a DEA “sell-all-thee-drugs-in-Chicago-you-want-to” card. He toll me if any steenking American Federales effer @#$% weeth me he would take care uff eet right away. Any more eenformation you like to know about me, Jefe?


15 posted on 04/06/2013 6:52:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Perdogg

“A recent solicitation from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) reveals that the agency is seeking a “massive” online database capable of pulling up individuals’ personal information, connections and associates.”

The states can tell the ATF Nazis to go F themselves. No state cooperation, no information and no database.

It’s time for state’s to tell the ATF that they’re persona non grata, and if they enter a state, they will be arrested, disarmed and thrown in prison.


16 posted on 04/06/2013 6:53:02 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Perdogg
Sounds like we need some series


To take their system down.
17 posted on 04/06/2013 6:53:45 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Perdogg
They already have one.

It's called the "Internet."

Perhaps they should look into it.

18 posted on 04/06/2013 6:57:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: Perdogg

It’s called facebook.


19 posted on 04/06/2013 7:03:40 PM PDT by left that other site (Worry is the darkroom that developes negatives.)
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To: upchuck

That 40% is 100% too much!


20 posted on 04/06/2013 7:12:34 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: Perdogg
a "massive" online database capable of pulling up individuals' personal information, connections and associates (Freepers).
21 posted on 04/06/2013 7:16:58 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Perdogg

What are they trying to run competition with the IRS for snooping!?


22 posted on 04/06/2013 7:21:13 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Perdogg
I was just watching Blue Thunder for the fist time since I saw it in 1983. The story is about Los Angeles justifying an armed military helicopter for "urban pacification" uses. It is amazing how a modest action picture that seemed well over the top as far as being possible in 1983, has over time become understated.

Also interesting is how Los Angeles is portrayed in 1983. The press was portrayed as defending civil liberties, the military was bad for pushing military hardware onto civilian police. Politicians were portrayed as incompetant bumblers, so no change there though.

23 posted on 04/06/2013 7:25:17 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Lucky9teen
Sounds like we need some series

This is going to be hugh!

24 posted on 04/06/2013 7:26:49 PM PDT by mcmuffin (Freedom's On The March - Wave Goodbye!)
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To: Perdogg

The political Pollyanna’s are shocked.


25 posted on 04/06/2013 7:36:12 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Perdogg

FEMA’s warming up those 500,000 coffins for the great leap forward!


26 posted on 04/06/2013 7:41:40 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Perdogg

And our elected officials will do nothing. This is, not good.


27 posted on 04/06/2013 7:42:19 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: yarddog; basil
I have run into ATF agents who were decent guys but the agency’s managers are intent on violating the Constitution

I heard at the close of WWII, some German troops and Nazis claimed to be decent guys and suddenly were talking lots of cheet about management when their pay checks stopped and their managers ran for the tall grass.

28 posted on 04/06/2013 7:43:06 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: upchuck

Documentation File on the harmful impact of the Counterculture of Obamanation on America.

___________________

Barry Soetoro, aka B. Hussein Obama, 5 days before the end of GWB Presidential term, said: “We are five days away from FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORMING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!”

Going on 5 years now, the best friends that Obama could have had to help him achieve his above stated dastardly goal were the RINO leadership in the US House and Senate, AND THEY ARE STILL IN POWER!

_____________________

IMHO, the Counterculture of Obamanation will continue to destroy America for as long as the US Congressional RINOs allow it to, and not one minute more - - - - .


29 posted on 04/06/2013 7:53:24 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: left that other site

I was gonna say the same thing. Actually, you can find out all sorts of stuff about anyone on the internet. Well, except Obama, of course.


30 posted on 04/06/2013 7:56:33 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: demshateGod
You might find some first term elected still not corrupted. But beyond that the rest are likely blackmailed into submission. They can't have certain criminal or immoral acts made public. There's also the Power aspect. Some are in office solely to hold power and they'll do anything to anybody to keep it or obtain it. True to Constitution and Country amongst our elected leaders are few and far between.
31 posted on 04/06/2013 7:58:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Perdogg

Amendment IV —

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

What freaking part of that don’t they understand???


32 posted on 04/06/2013 7:59:15 PM PDT by DNME (Without the Constitution, there is no legitimate U.S. government. Period.)
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To: sergeantdave

In all seriousness, they probably have all of this information already on an old system, and they are looking for upgrades. If there is one agency that has proven over and over that they are bound to abuse such a system, it is BATF. They will probably use it to find more customers for their illegal gun schemes.


33 posted on 04/06/2013 8:00:43 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: left that other site

No, that only applies to the dum dums, (about half the population) who volunteer their information for all to see on social stupidity sites, otherwise knows as social media sites.


34 posted on 04/06/2013 8:05:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: left that other site

ER.... otherwise >known< as social media sites.


35 posted on 04/06/2013 8:06:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: aimhigh
The ACLU will be on this quickly. /sarc/

Actually they just might.

EXCLUSIVE: ACLU says Reid’s gun legislation could threaten privacy rights, civil liberties

ACLU: Gun Control Bill Threatens Privacy Rights and Civil Liberties

There are more articles out there.

36 posted on 04/06/2013 8:50:56 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Very Naziesque. I wonder what the DUmmies over at the DUmbster think of their “massas” now.”

Probably think it’s a pretty good idea. After all, the information will only be used against Christians, conservatives and libertarians.


37 posted on 04/06/2013 9:29:57 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: aimhigh

The ACLU will be on this quickly. /sarc/

Actually, I believe that they will be also.


38 posted on 04/06/2013 10:23:49 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: yarddog

“Just what they need to keep all those records which it is illegal for them to keep.”

Well, it’s for reasons of national security, terrorists, etc.,
or...”whatever”.


39 posted on 04/06/2013 10:25:32 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: upchuck
From an IT standpoint, I don’t know which is more fantazamorgical: this or nobamacare. Whole buncha contractors gonna make a whole buncha money on this. And in the end, after countless delays, budget overruns and missed deadlines, the end product will do maybe 40% of what was originally envisioned. ‘Course, you’ll never hear about that.

Yep - some of the DOD databases of a few hundred thousand to maybe a million records have taken a number of years to work out the bugs and they still run slow. Transferring the data from other sources would be a nightmare to get right. So many things to cause a lot of innocent people a lot of serious headaches.

40 posted on 04/07/2013 4:16:58 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: yarddog
Just what they need to keep all those records which it is illegal for them to keep.

Just go along with it...Now move along...

41 posted on 04/07/2013 9:52:53 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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