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The deafening silence of the Holocaust-Shoah establishment
Chuck Morse Speaks ^ | April 6, 2013 | Chuck Morse

Posted on 04/06/2013 7:18:11 PM PDT by Chuckmorse

At the time of the Feb. 2013 release of my book On the Jewish Question – Karl Marx, anti-Semitism and the war against the West, I notified hundreds of museums, institutions, periodicals, and university departments specializing in the Holocaust and in Holocaust and Genocide Studies asking them to please consider including the topics I covered in my book in their discourse. I notified Jewish organizations across the United States and the world. Other than one or two neutral acknowledgements and a couple of nasty emails the silence was deafening.

My book is about the one aspect of the rise of Nazism and the implementation of the Holocaust against the Jews of Europe that is virtually never discussed. Indeed, this one aspect, one out of many that exist in a vast and complex subject, has been virtually airbrushed out of the public discourse. My book has been censored from the otherwise excellent and probative body of analysis and thinking on the topic. I contend that there will never be an integrated understanding of the Holocaust until the subject I raise is broached. The blackout of information I have researched is a crime against the memory of the six million victims of the Holocaust whose blood cries out from the grave for the truth and for justice. It is also an abrogation of responsibility regarding adherence to the spirit of the slogan “never again.”

The politically incorrect and still sensitive aspect that I raise is the influence that Karl Marx, as evidenced by his anti-Jewish tract On the Jewish Question, first published in 1844 and re-published numerous times and in many languages, had on Nazism and on Hitler. In my book I re-publish Marx treatise, a tract which should be listed in the same infamous pantheon of anti-Semitic hate literature as Mein Kampf and as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, in its entirety with commentary. I link that hateful treatise to the political and philosophical aspirations and the political formation and nature of Nazism. Marx ideas, as I demonstrate, were completely absorbed by Hitler and by the Nazis and Marx ideas, and strategies, had a great deal to do with the Holocaust.

In On the Jewish Question, Karl Marx wrote the following:

What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.

Marx theorized that the best means of eliminating from human society those natural human traits, self-interest, Huckstering, Money, was for Judaism to be made impossible to use his term. Philosophically, Marx claimed that human nature could be changed by eliminating what he viewed as bad influences. Marx wrote about false consciousness which he applied to Judaism, false consciousness that he claimed was created by exploiters. He believed that such false consciousness could be replaced by a new paradigm that would advance human society toward utopia.

He sought to replace such positive human traits as self-interest, which is the natural desire of the human being to define his own life and destiny with collectivism. He sought to replace Huckstering, which is the natural need for the human being to trade goods and services in an atmosphere of freedom with utopia. He sought to replace Money, which allows people a means to store value and which is the basis of private property with Communism. I examine the similarities between this and the Nazi concept of the Ubbermench.

I have been fascinated by the Holocaust since as a child I heard my grandparents and uncles and aunts discuss the topic and the people who were murdered. I wondered how it could have happened. I have searched for an answer ever since. In my quest I try to leave no stone unturned as such a terrible crime deserves a complete and dispassionate understanding. My intention is not to hurt anyone’s feelings, only to get closer to the truth. At this point in history, after subsequent genocides which took place after World War II and with the genocidal forces that the State of Israel faces, I would hope that others would be courageous enough to join me in my quest.


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1 posted on 04/06/2013 7:18:11 PM PDT by Chuckmorse
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To: Chuckmorse

The silence continues . . .


2 posted on 04/06/2013 7:23:22 PM PDT by Misterioso ("The difference between a welfare state and a totalitarian state is a matter of time." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Chuckmorse

Oh well, soon enough the beneficent left will be getting their heads chopped of by “islamists”, but they won’t say boo to that ghost either.

Nothing and no one can help leftists, they are mad with stupidity, even though I grant that many of them have high IQs.

If they weren’t so helpful, always, to pure evil one could pity them.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 7:27:57 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Chuckmorse

while the silence continues, the world prepares for another one, this time worse than the European one, as this one will be world-wide and will include Christians, as the forces of evil embodied in Marxist ideology hate God! This time they are going for broke! Marxists align with Islam and will be the anti-christ force that will try to silence the people of the true God, once and for all.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 7:31:13 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Chuckmorse

The reason for their silence is because Karl’s lineage from his grandfathers on backward is a long line of Orthodox rabbis.

At some point his parents converted to the Lutheran denomination of Christianity. Think of Karl like the crazy uncle no one speaks of or associates with in way except that this uncle ended up killing a bunch of his own family.

From the Wiki on him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx

Karl Heinrich Marx was born on 5 May 1818 at 664 Brückergasse in Trier, a town in the Kingdom of Prussia’s Province of the Lower Rhine.[16] Ancestrally Ashkenazi Jewish, his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his paternal line had supplied Trier’s rabbis since 1723, a role taken by his grandfather Meier Halevi Marx.[17] Karl’s father, Herschel Marx, was the first in the line to receive a secular education; becoming relatively wealthy and middle-class, his family owned a number of Moselle vineyards. To escape the constraints of anti-semitic legislation, he converted from Judaism to the Protestant Christian denomination of Lutheranism prior to his son’s birth, taking on the German forename of Heinrich over the Yiddish Herschel.[18]


5 posted on 04/06/2013 7:38:20 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It would be easy enough to dismiss Marx as a self-hating Jew. The real complication, I think, is that ethnic Jews were sufficiently over-represented in Communist ranks that it is dangerous for an academic’s career to explore the links between Communism, Jewishness and anti-semitism, especially after Hitler conflated Bolshevism and Jews for his own purposes.


7 posted on 04/06/2013 8:15:00 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Chuckmorse

I, like the author, was riveted by the Holocaust and read everything I could get my hands on about it for about three years solid, histories, documentaries, biographies trying to wrap my mind around how this evil could possibly have occurred. I came to one conclusion: evil, pure unadulterated evil. Judaism will never die, because it is God’s. Marx was an instrument of the devil, like Hitler, Stalin, Chavez all socialists.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 8:48:26 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Chuckmorse

I have not read your book, but in the article, you did not touch the great problem as to why there was such a powerful Nazi crusade against Bolshevism if Karl Marx’s anti-Semitic essay against the Jews were so much a part of the Holocaust. It quickly gets too complicated it seems to me, and Occam’s razor comes in from behind to cut away at your thesis. The opposition between Fascism and Communism may not mean all that much to conservatives today (we don’t distinguish between Buchenwald & the Gulag Archipelago), but it meant a lot to those involved in the debate, and some 50 million people lost their lives over it.


9 posted on 04/06/2013 9:10:07 PM PDT by Olympiad Fisherman
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To: heartwood; Jack Hydrazine; Chuckmorse; Nachum; rmlew; SJackson
heartwood: "The real complication, I think, is that ethnic Jews were sufficiently over-represented in Communist ranks"

COMPLETE BULLSHIT, and a slur that Hitler and his acolytes then and now would thank you for spreading.

On the eve of the February Revolution, in 1917, the Bolshevik party had about 10,000 members, of whom 364 were ethnic Jews.[9][15]

...According to the 1922 party census, there were 19,564 Jewish Bolsheviks, comprising 5.21% of the total.[16] Jews made up 7.1% of members who had joined before October 1917.[18]...from Jews in the Bolshevik party

As for [Jack Hydrazine's]: "The reason for their silence is because Karl’s lineage from his grandfathers on backward is a long line of Orthodox rabbis."

That is ridiculous reasoning. Orthodox Jews point to scum like Marx as an example of what happens when a Jew (or his parents, and he is subsequently raised non-Jewish) leaves the fold... it's called "falling off the derech" (the "path").

Now there is no doubt that too many jinos in the Jewish academic establishment are leftists and don't want to slander their golden calf, Karl Marx.

And there is no doubt that those not to the Left don't want to "upset" those leftists they work with, and that last is a real disgrace, but it has nothing to do with "ethic jews being innately communist", or that we are ashamed that Marx came from a family of Rabbis.

10 posted on 04/06/2013 10:03:17 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Jack Hydrazine

yes, Lutheran, the dominant religion where Marx’s family lived in Germany. But religion was not a significant part of Marx’s life, other than in his philosophical analyses. The big deal with Marx was his materialism, that is: analyzing everything in terms of wealth (which he saw as leading to power). This caused him to be classified as an atheist generally. He discounted religion as (famously) the opiate of the masses, that is... something in which the not-wealthy found solace (and as something foisted on the people by those with wealth and power) ... and which, by calming them with myth (including the promise of a better future in the “imagined” nigh and nigh), kept them from critical analysis of their present (down-trodden, very real) condition.. and especially, from doing anything about it (revolution).

This very limited view of religion does not reflect Lutheranism, Christianity, or Judaism. Obviously. It reflects Marx’s philosophy, though, and is totally consistent with his position that previous philosophers described the world whereas “the point is to change it.” Marx hoped to change society to one in which everybody had enough means so that their basic nature would then willingly share the wealth. But, Marx realized that this change would only arise through “force,” with a temporary “dictatorship of the the proletariat” confiscating the wealth of the few for “redistribution” to the masses. Marx was, underneath all this, also a bit of a utopian idealist, however, in that he allowed that the change could possibly be brought about by infiltrating and using the democratic systems in those countries having same (although direct force was more clearly necessary in non-democratic societies). Either way, Marx’s dream encompassed a (later) time when almost all government would become “unnecessary” ... after the dictatorship of the proletariat had done its job. But, Marx never quite specified (to my knowledge, anyway) how he expected this dictatorship to yield its enormous power when that time (hopefully) came.

Alas. We are now experiencing precisely such “hope and change” or “transformation” as Obama “shares the wealth” — meaning, of course, yours and mine, and most certainly not HIS (for he continues to amass riches all over America at his $38.600 a plate chicken fundraiser dinners — which only proves that there are many “useful idiots” with all “too much wealth,” in Marxian terms at least).

Or something like that.


11 posted on 04/06/2013 10:03:33 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Chuckmorse

PS - If you want more discussion of your book (instead of people publicizing some other guy’s BS 3 hour “movie” with made=up quotes about Jews and the Fed), put a a link to where we can read some excerpts and where your book may be bought.

I am pretty broke, but if it’s interesting, I am sure I am not the only freeper who will push the link around. (Ask Travis McGee here how much help he got out of word of mouth on his (admittedly SHTF fiction) books.

/just my two cents...


12 posted on 04/06/2013 10:10:08 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Yehuda

Sorry, Yehuda, there were many Jews in the high ranks/inner circle of the Bolsheviks - Trotsky was a Jew; Genrikh Yagoda, the head of the NKVD, was a Jew; Zinoviev was a Jew; Radek was a Jew; Kamenev was a Jew; Litvinoff was a Jew; and even the assassin of the Czar and his family, Yakov Yurovsky, was a Jew.


13 posted on 04/07/2013 12:09:10 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Chuckmorse

Before he died, many Soviet experts believed Joseph Stalin was planning to rid the USSR of Jews...and was in the process of his “Jewish Doctors” purge.

No surprise Marx and Communism would be anti-Semitic, even with many of the early Communist leaders of the USSR were Jewish


14 posted on 04/07/2013 1:49:25 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Chuckmorse

How ironic that Jews (in America at least) so overwhelmingly embrace Leftist ideology.


15 posted on 04/07/2013 3:12:43 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: AdaGray
Isn't it sad?? Jews were almost exterminated by a BIG GOVERNMENT, yet they embrace Big Government here!

They are ANTI-GUN!!If Jews had been armed, the holocaust would NEVER had happened!!

If ANY group outside of Christians that should be PRO-LIFE, it should be Jews. but they are PRO-ABORTION!! Everything seems upside down with them!

16 posted on 04/07/2013 4:02:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: kabumpo

“Sorry, Yehuda, there were many Jews in the high ranks/inner circle of the Bolsheviks “

They were in the minority, but that won’t stop you from agreeing with Hitler.

None of those people you mentioned were anything but descendants of Jews, they did NOTHING that was reflective of Judaism, so according to you, it must be in their JOO blood, so we should exterminate all JOOS because they’re potential communists...

Oh wait, the majority of communists were descended from CHRISTIANS, so it must be in Christian blood, we need to exterminate all Christians because they are potential communists...

And how about how many musicians were communists!

Lets start with you.


17 posted on 04/07/2013 7:44:24 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Chuckmorse
Hitler detested communists:

"In the years 1913 and 1914 I expressed my opinion for the first time in various circles, some of which are now members of the National Socialist Movement, that the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated."
Hitler, Mein Kampf

18 posted on 04/07/2013 8:00:15 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” - Adolf Hitler April 12, 1921 "The goal of socialism is communism." - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
19 posted on 04/07/2013 9:24:05 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Tau Food
/sigh....

“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”
- Adolf Hitler April 12, 1921

"The goal of socialism is communism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

20 posted on 04/07/2013 9:25:16 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Yehuda

If you had a crazy uncle who was responsible for the murder of around 200 million people during the 20th century would YOU want to acknowledge him in any way???


21 posted on 04/07/2013 9:28:04 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Yehuda
HItler railed against the communists, and he exterminated as many of them as he could. Hitler railed against the Jews, and he exterminated as many of them as he could.

Deep down inside, maybe Hitler loved communists. Deep down inside, maybe Hitler loved Jews.

But, his hatred of communists and Jews sure seemed to be sincere. ;-)

22 posted on 04/07/2013 9:37:22 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food

Nazis hated Communists for the same reason that the Bloods hate the Crips.


23 posted on 04/07/2013 9:38:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Yehuda

Yes, the Communist Jews were secularized, no question. But they were also Internationalists, rootless and in many cases hateful of the tradition, of the religion, of the patriots, whom they murdered, as in Poland, where after the war (according to your link) 37% of the security apparatus were people of Jewish descent (where in the society as a whole the surviving Jews were then perhaps 1%.) After the war? Wait, where did they come from, weren’t they all murdered by those mythical Nazis? They came to Poland from Russia, and some didn’t even speak Polish.


24 posted on 04/07/2013 9:40:06 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

And yet it was Gomulka and his fellow Polish Commie stooges that had most of the remaining Polish Jews kicked out of the country in 1968.


25 posted on 04/07/2013 9:41:19 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Revolting cat!

“But they were also Internationalists, rootless...”

those cosmopolitan joos, wipe them all out, right?

Its in their JOO blood, ever since they were dispersed / thrown out of Israel for murdering christ.

Kill all the rootless, wondering joos

/s

Oh wait, American Catholics voted overwhelming for obama, america must be cleansed of the papist catholics, they can’t be trusted, two masters, etc!


26 posted on 04/07/2013 9:49:06 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Yehuda
We wuz victims!

Polish Jew, and according to your sarcasms, Polish patriot Jakub Berman, mass murderer.


27 posted on 04/07/2013 9:53:04 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Yep, Berman was a real work of art, wasn’t he?


28 posted on 04/07/2013 9:53:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I don’t want to go there any more, because the ugly truth of those years is politically incorrect to all sides. Most prefer to believe convenient Hollywood lies.


29 posted on 04/07/2013 9:55:41 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Stalin hated Jews too, but they were useful idiots to him.


30 posted on 04/07/2013 9:56:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“If you had a crazy uncle who was responsible for the murder of around 200 million people during the 20th century would YOU want to acknowledge him in any way???”

I would use HIM AS AN EXAMPLE of what happens when you (and/or your parents) betray your God and your faith, and not let aholes use him as an example OF WHAT REAL JEWS ARE ABOUT, as you and others are doing here on a daily basis.

Have nice f*cking day. Hitler and the jihadis thank you for agreeing with them, and for your help in demonizing judaism.

ps - if you are catholic, you should kill yourself, since the majority of catholics voted for obama, and there were a lot more of them than jews voting in crucial states in the last election.

Thank you, papists, for helping to destroy america!

(does that make sense to you? Makes as much sense to me as BLAMING JEWS for Obama , Communism, etc.)


31 posted on 04/07/2013 9:58:04 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: dfwgator

Gomulka, from what I’ve read about 1968, was responding to his Party’s base, the proletariat, the anti-semitic lumps, and while he expelled some of the worst (like those from the security and propaganda apparatus), he also expelled some of the best, patriots, and ordinary people.


32 posted on 04/07/2013 10:05:22 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Polish Jew, and according to your sarcasms, Polish patriot Jakub Berman, mass murderer.
Russian Christian Orthodox, and according to your sarcasms, Russian patriot JOE STALIN, mass murderer.

Can we kill all the Russian Christian Orthodox now? We can keep this up all day, making you look like the stupid defender of genocide you seem to want to appear to be.

SEE IF YOU CAN GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL:

Communists who happened to be born into Jewish families weren't communist because they were born into Jewish families, BUT IN SPITE OF IT.

33 posted on 04/07/2013 10:06:33 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Yehuda

For a Berman “repair the world” apologist, you’re a weak one with your Christian strawmen that have nothing to do with this thread.


34 posted on 04/07/2013 10:10:46 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Yehuda

Huh? Stalin was an atheist, who started in the seminary but quickly rejected it.


35 posted on 04/07/2013 10:11:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Yehuda

As was Berman, I might add.


36 posted on 04/07/2013 10:12:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Yehuda

Your Communists were “repairing the world”, that was their motivation, and appears to be the motivation of that mayor of Chicago and his Obamacare designing doctor brother. Tradition, as Fiddler on the Roof taught us! (Third rail to mention it, isn’t it?)


37 posted on 04/07/2013 10:15:16 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: dfwgator

“Huh? Stalin was an atheist, who started in the seminary but quickly rejected it. ....As was Berman, I might add.”

Follow the thread back up or you don’t get it.

If Berman was an atheist like Stalin, how come so many freepers are nazi-jiahdi-happy to discuss Berman and Marx et al as descended from Jews, but not discuss Stalin as descended from Russian Orthodox Christians?

I have been a donor here over ten years, and I STILL AND ALWAYS WILL SH*T on the closet nazis here on FreeRepublic.


40 posted on 04/07/2013 10:52:51 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Chuckmorse

The silence continues on two fronts: The role of Marx in influencing Hitler and the Holocaust; and the fact that Hitler was a LEFTIST, not “right-wing”. His policies of public works, gun control/bans, nationalized healthcare and mandatory public schooling/homeschooling ban were 100% left-wing progressive, as was his tendency to murder those who opposed him or got in his way.


41 posted on 04/07/2013 11:01:45 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Revolting cat!

They aren’t my communists, they are YOUR communists, they were led by Stalin, who was born a Christian.

ITS ALL YOURS.


43 posted on 04/07/2013 11:22:20 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Yehuda

37%


44 posted on 04/07/2013 11:24:41 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: kabumpo
Sorry, Yehuda, there were many Jews in the high ranks/inner circle of the Bolsheviks - Trotsky was a Jew; Genrikh Yagoda, the head of the NKVD, was a Jew; Zinoviev was a Jew; Radek was a Jew; Kamenev was a Jew; Litvinoff was a Jew; and even the assassin of the Czar and his family, Yakov Yurovsky, was a Jew.

And over time, Stalin had them all eliminated. Maybe some Jews were attracted to the Bolsheviks, because of their hatred of the Czar....but the leadership of the movement despised Jews every bit as much, but found them "useful."

45 posted on 04/07/2013 11:27:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Revolting cat!

Stalin = CHRISTIAN.

Revolting Cat = defender of Hitler propaganda against Jews.


46 posted on 04/07/2013 11:56:33 AM PDT by Yehuda
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To: kabumpo; Yehuda
There was also Bela Kuhn and Rosa Luxemburg.

The widespread perception in the period 1918 thru the 1940's was that the communist movement had a disproportionate number of Jews, which lead to a higher degree of anti-Jewish feeling from those who had suffered from Communism, like the Ukrainians and the Poles.

47 posted on 04/07/2013 11:57:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Tau Food
But, his hatred of communists and Jews sure seemed to be sincere. ;-)

His hatred of communists wasn't due to their being communist, as much as their having allegiance to the USSR. Hitler didn't dislike socialism, he just wanted to be in charge and was against competitors for leadership.

48 posted on 04/07/2013 12:00:57 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: dfwgator
And over time, Stalin had them all eliminated. Maybe some Jews were attracted to the Bolsheviks, because of their hatred of the Czar....but the leadership of the movement despised Jews every bit as much, but found them "useful."

I'm thinking much of Stalin's animosity towards Jews in the Party came from him thinking they sided with his competitor for leadership post-Lenin: Trotsky.

49 posted on 04/07/2013 12:09:07 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“The widespread perception in the period 1918 thru the 1940’s was that the communist movement had a disproportionate number of Jews, “

And it was nothing but Nazi propaganda, still spread by some people here.


50 posted on 04/07/2013 12:27:35 PM PDT by Yehuda
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