Skip to comments.The deafening silence of the Holocaust-Shoah establishment
Posted on 04/06/2013 7:18:11 PM PDT by Chuckmorse
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The silence continues . . .
Oh well, soon enough the beneficent left will be getting their heads chopped of by “islamists”, but they won’t say boo to that ghost either.
Nothing and no one can help leftists, they are mad with stupidity, even though I grant that many of them have high IQs.
If they weren’t so helpful, always, to pure evil one could pity them.
while the silence continues, the world prepares for another one, this time worse than the European one, as this one will be world-wide and will include Christians, as the forces of evil embodied in Marxist ideology hate God! This time they are going for broke! Marxists align with Islam and will be the anti-christ force that will try to silence the people of the true God, once and for all.
The reason for their silence is because Karl’s lineage from his grandfathers on backward is a long line of Orthodox rabbis.
At some point his parents converted to the Lutheran denomination of Christianity. Think of Karl like the crazy uncle no one speaks of or associates with in way except that this uncle ended up killing a bunch of his own family.
From the Wiki on him:
Karl Heinrich Marx was born on 5 May 1818 at 664 Brückergasse in Trier, a town in the Kingdom of Prussia’s Province of the Lower Rhine. Ancestrally Ashkenazi Jewish, his maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi, while his paternal line had supplied Trier’s rabbis since 1723, a role taken by his grandfather Meier Halevi Marx. Karl’s father, Herschel Marx, was the first in the line to receive a secular education; becoming relatively wealthy and middle-class, his family owned a number of Moselle vineyards. To escape the constraints of anti-semitic legislation, he converted from Judaism to the Protestant Christian denomination of Lutheranism prior to his son’s birth, taking on the German forename of Heinrich over the Yiddish Herschel.
It would be easy enough to dismiss Marx as a self-hating Jew. The real complication, I think, is that ethnic Jews were sufficiently over-represented in Communist ranks that it is dangerous for an academic’s career to explore the links between Communism, Jewishness and anti-semitism, especially after Hitler conflated Bolshevism and Jews for his own purposes.
I, like the author, was riveted by the Holocaust and read everything I could get my hands on about it for about three years solid, histories, documentaries, biographies trying to wrap my mind around how this evil could possibly have occurred. I came to one conclusion: evil, pure unadulterated evil. Judaism will never die, because it is God’s. Marx was an instrument of the devil, like Hitler, Stalin, Chavez all socialists.
I have not read your book, but in the article, you did not touch the great problem as to why there was such a powerful Nazi crusade against Bolshevism if Karl Marx’s anti-Semitic essay against the Jews were so much a part of the Holocaust. It quickly gets too complicated it seems to me, and Occam’s razor comes in from behind to cut away at your thesis. The opposition between Fascism and Communism may not mean all that much to conservatives today (we don’t distinguish between Buchenwald & the Gulag Archipelago), but it meant a lot to those involved in the debate, and some 50 million people lost their lives over it.
yes, Lutheran, the dominant religion where Marx’s family lived in Germany. But religion was not a significant part of Marx’s life, other than in his philosophical analyses. The big deal with Marx was his materialism, that is: analyzing everything in terms of wealth (which he saw as leading to power). This caused him to be classified as an atheist generally. He discounted religion as (famously) the opiate of the masses, that is... something in which the not-wealthy found solace (and as something foisted on the people by those with wealth and power) ... and which, by calming them with myth (including the promise of a better future in the “imagined” nigh and nigh), kept them from critical analysis of their present (down-trodden, very real) condition.. and especially, from doing anything about it (revolution).
This very limited view of religion does not reflect Lutheranism, Christianity, or Judaism. Obviously. It reflects Marx’s philosophy, though, and is totally consistent with his position that previous philosophers described the world whereas “the point is to change it.” Marx hoped to change society to one in which everybody had enough means so that their basic nature would then willingly share the wealth. But, Marx realized that this change would only arise through “force,” with a temporary “dictatorship of the the proletariat” confiscating the wealth of the few for “redistribution” to the masses. Marx was, underneath all this, also a bit of a utopian idealist, however, in that he allowed that the change could possibly be brought about by infiltrating and using the democratic systems in those countries having same (although direct force was more clearly necessary in non-democratic societies). Either way, Marx’s dream encompassed a (later) time when almost all government would become “unnecessary” ... after the dictatorship of the proletariat had done its job. But, Marx never quite specified (to my knowledge, anyway) how he expected this dictatorship to yield its enormous power when that time (hopefully) came.
Alas. We are now experiencing precisely such “hope and change” or “transformation” as Obama “shares the wealth” — meaning, of course, yours and mine, and most certainly not HIS (for he continues to amass riches all over America at his $38.600 a plate chicken fundraiser dinners — which only proves that there are many “useful idiots” with all “too much wealth,” in Marxian terms at least).
Or something like that.
Sorry, Yehuda, there were many Jews in the high ranks/inner circle of the Bolsheviks - Trotsky was a Jew; Genrikh Yagoda, the head of the NKVD, was a Jew; Zinoviev was a Jew; Radek was a Jew; Kamenev was a Jew; Litvinoff was a Jew; and even the assassin of the Czar and his family, Yakov Yurovsky, was a Jew.
Before he died, many Soviet experts believed Joseph Stalin was planning to rid the USSR of Jews...and was in the process of his “Jewish Doctors” purge.
No surprise Marx and Communism would be anti-Semitic, even with many of the early Communist leaders of the USSR were Jewish
How ironic that Jews (in America at least) so overwhelmingly embrace Leftist ideology.
They are ANTI-GUN!!If Jews had been armed, the holocaust would NEVER had happened!!
If ANY group outside of Christians that should be PRO-LIFE, it should be Jews. but they are PRO-ABORTION!! Everything seems upside down with them!
"In the years 1913 and 1914 I expressed my opinion for the first time in various circles, some of which are now members of the National Socialist Movement, that the problem of how the future of the German nation can be secured is the problem of how Marxism can be exterminated."
Hitler, Mein Kampf
If you had a crazy uncle who was responsible for the murder of around 200 million people during the 20th century would YOU want to acknowledge him in any way???
Deep down inside, maybe Hitler loved communists. Deep down inside, maybe Hitler loved Jews.
But, his hatred of communists and Jews sure seemed to be sincere. ;-)
Nazis hated Communists for the same reason that the Bloods hate the Crips.
Yes, the Communist Jews were secularized, no question. But they were also Internationalists, rootless and in many cases hateful of the tradition, of the religion, of the patriots, whom they murdered, as in Poland, where after the war (according to your link) 37% of the security apparatus were people of Jewish descent (where in the society as a whole the surviving Jews were then perhaps 1%.) After the war? Wait, where did they come from, weren’t they all murdered by those mythical Nazis? They came to Poland from Russia, and some didn’t even speak Polish.
And yet it was Gomulka and his fellow Polish Commie stooges that had most of the remaining Polish Jews kicked out of the country in 1968.
Polish Jew, and according to your sarcasms, Polish patriot Jakub Berman, mass murderer.
Yep, Berman was a real work of art, wasn’t he?
I don’t want to go there any more, because the ugly truth of those years is politically incorrect to all sides. Most prefer to believe convenient Hollywood lies.
Stalin hated Jews too, but they were useful idiots to him.
Gomulka, from what I’ve read about 1968, was responding to his Party’s base, the proletariat, the anti-semitic lumps, and while he expelled some of the worst (like those from the security and propaganda apparatus), he also expelled some of the best, patriots, and ordinary people.
For a Berman “repair the world” apologist, you’re a weak one with your Christian strawmen that have nothing to do with this thread.
Huh? Stalin was an atheist, who started in the seminary but quickly rejected it.
As was Berman, I might add.
Your Communists were “repairing the world”, that was their motivation, and appears to be the motivation of that mayor of Chicago and his Obamacare designing doctor brother. Tradition, as Fiddler on the Roof taught us! (Third rail to mention it, isn’t it?)
The silence continues on two fronts: The role of Marx in influencing Hitler and the Holocaust; and the fact that Hitler was a LEFTIST, not “right-wing”. His policies of public works, gun control/bans, nationalized healthcare and mandatory public schooling/homeschooling ban were 100% left-wing progressive, as was his tendency to murder those who opposed him or got in his way.
And over time, Stalin had them all eliminated. Maybe some Jews were attracted to the Bolsheviks, because of their hatred of the Czar....but the leadership of the movement despised Jews every bit as much, but found them "useful."
The widespread perception in the period 1918 thru the 1940's was that the communist movement had a disproportionate number of Jews, which lead to a higher degree of anti-Jewish feeling from those who had suffered from Communism, like the Ukrainians and the Poles.
His hatred of communists wasn't due to their being communist, as much as their having allegiance to the USSR. Hitler didn't dislike socialism, he just wanted to be in charge and was against competitors for leadership.
I'm thinking much of Stalin's animosity towards Jews in the Party came from him thinking they sided with his competitor for leadership post-Lenin: Trotsky.
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