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The deafening silence of the Holocaust-Shoah establishment
Chuck Morse Speaks ^ | April 6, 2013 | Chuck Morse

Posted on 04/06/2013 7:18:11 PM PDT by Chuckmorse

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To: Chuckmorse

The silence continues on two fronts: The role of Marx in influencing Hitler and the Holocaust; and the fact that Hitler was a LEFTIST, not “right-wing”. His policies of public works, gun control/bans, nationalized healthcare and mandatory public schooling/homeschooling ban were 100% left-wing progressive, as was his tendency to murder those who opposed him or got in his way.


41 posted on 04/07/2013 11:01:45 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Yehuda

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44 posted on 04/07/2013 11:24:41 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: kabumpo
Sorry, Yehuda, there were many Jews in the high ranks/inner circle of the Bolsheviks - Trotsky was a Jew; Genrikh Yagoda, the head of the NKVD, was a Jew; Zinoviev was a Jew; Radek was a Jew; Kamenev was a Jew; Litvinoff was a Jew; and even the assassin of the Czar and his family, Yakov Yurovsky, was a Jew.

And over time, Stalin had them all eliminated. Maybe some Jews were attracted to the Bolsheviks, because of their hatred of the Czar....but the leadership of the movement despised Jews every bit as much, but found them "useful."

45 posted on 04/07/2013 11:27:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kabumpo; Yehuda
There was also Bela Kuhn and Rosa Luxemburg.

The widespread perception in the period 1918 thru the 1940's was that the communist movement had a disproportionate number of Jews, which lead to a higher degree of anti-Jewish feeling from those who had suffered from Communism, like the Ukrainians and the Poles.

47 posted on 04/07/2013 11:57:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Tau Food
But, his hatred of communists and Jews sure seemed to be sincere. ;-)

His hatred of communists wasn't due to their being communist, as much as their having allegiance to the USSR. Hitler didn't dislike socialism, he just wanted to be in charge and was against competitors for leadership.

48 posted on 04/07/2013 12:00:57 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: dfwgator
And over time, Stalin had them all eliminated. Maybe some Jews were attracted to the Bolsheviks, because of their hatred of the Czar....but the leadership of the movement despised Jews every bit as much, but found them "useful."

I'm thinking much of Stalin's animosity towards Jews in the Party came from him thinking they sided with his competitor for leadership post-Lenin: Trotsky.

49 posted on 04/07/2013 12:09:07 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Yehuda
“The widespread perception in the period 1918 thru the 1940’s was that the communist movement had a disproportionate number of Jews, “

Nazis also proclaimed that there were a disproportionate number of Jewish Capitalists, as well.

52 posted on 04/07/2013 12:32:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tau Food

Hitler detested Communists, not because he fundamentally disagreed with their anti-capitalist stance....He just saw them as rivals that were in his way.

A good number of the SA were former Communists, and joined the SA, because they wanted to be the source of change in Germany to a socialist system......which turned out to be one of the main reasons Hitler had them purged, they were scaring off the industrialists Hitler needed to build up his war machine.

But Hitler’s writings indicated, that once the war was won, and the industrialists were no longer needed, they were to be eliminated as a class.


53 posted on 04/07/2013 12:50:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Yehuda
Prior to 1930, there was no Nazi propaganda. There still was perception of a large number of Jewish Communists. See my prior posts in this thread.

Solzhenitsyn’s 200 Years Together goes into Russian Jewish participation in Communism.

54 posted on 04/07/2013 1:02:28 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Yehuda

This is not about Judaism.


55 posted on 04/07/2013 1:45:49 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: PapaBear3625
I'm thinking much of Stalin's animosity towards Jews in the Party came from him thinking they sided with his competitor for leadership post-Lenin: Trotsky.

But the two main guys that sided with Stalin against Trotsky, Zinoviev and Kamenev, were also Jewish....and in due time, Stalin took care of them, as well.

56 posted on 04/07/2013 1:47:37 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PapaBear3625

Don’t you know? Once Solzhenitsyn started digging into the roots of Communism, he became a persona non grata, anti-semite, Nazi sympathizer, 88 tattoo (whatever that means) owner, etc, etc.


57 posted on 04/07/2013 1:48:30 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: PapaBear3625; dfwgator
His hatred of communists wasn't due to their being communist, as much as their having allegiance to the USSR.

The only problem with that theory is that, as the quote from Mein Kampf (see post 18) indicates, Hitler detested Marxists and Marxism several years before the communist revolution in Russia. He detested Marxism when Russia was still being run by the tsars.

Maybe if you'd been there at the time, you could have straightened Hitler out about the real reasons he hated communists and Jews. Or, maybe you could have talked him into loving both communists and Jews. But, I'm told that he was often kind of hard to reason with about some of this stuff. ;-)

58 posted on 04/07/2013 3:51:01 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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