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Mexican, undocumented. . .Mormon?
Fronteras ^ | April 23, 2013 | Jack Rodolic

Posted on 05/04/2013 10:22:52 AM PDT by greyfoxx39

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The mormon church is complicit in law-breaking by illegal aliens and goes to great lengths to aid and abet illegal acts by aiding illegal missionaries in dodging exposure.

It's all right here in this article.

1 posted on 05/04/2013 10:22:52 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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2 posted on 05/04/2013 10:23:51 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith died in a gun battle. This is NOT a martyr's death!)
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To: greyfoxx39
And when Isaac was 18, he was getting excited to set out on his Mormon mission. But then, his mother told him something completely unexpected.

“She told me, ‘I don’t know how to put this in words to you. You’re not a U.S. citizen. You are an illegal immigrant from Mexico,'" he said.

Does anybody believe that this kid had no idea at age 18 that they were illegals?

3 posted on 05/04/2013 10:28:09 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: greyfoxx39
If the Mormon Church continues to grow at current rates, it will be majority Latin American by 2015. hahahaha!!!! Were do these people get this stuff?

SLC lds have been supporting illegals for decades, they do not deny it or try and hide it, they do make excuses for it.

4 posted on 05/04/2013 10:31:33 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Of course they are complicit as are all American churches. Ultimately one can trace it down to money, more members, more income, more power for the leaders. Our churches are no loner religious in the sense of say Medieval Christianity or the Reformation Christian. Today they are money machines giving wealth, comfort, ease, power and prestige to those at the top of the religious hierarchy.


5 posted on 05/04/2013 10:44:27 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: greyfoxx39

41,739,000 - population of Central America, 2010

Catholic/Protestant 41,125,000 = 99.87%

mormonism 538,000 = 0.13%

islam 41,000 = 0.001%

other 35,000 = 0.001%

Someone please, inform the author of this article that SLC lds maybe able to over take Catholics/Protestants some day.....but not in this reality.


6 posted on 05/04/2013 10:47:05 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
It would be better to say some church groups not all churches.

I personally do not know any church group who would knowingly break the law.

7 posted on 05/04/2013 10:50:01 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Rubio was a Mormon boy in Las Vegas. Funny how he is all of a sudden for immigration reform.


8 posted on 05/04/2013 10:52:59 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Today they (churches) are money machines giving wealth, comfort, ease, power and prestige to those at the top of the religious hierarchy.

I do not know any churches like this personally.

I wonder where your jaded perspective comes from.

9 posted on 05/04/2013 10:54:31 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: Utah Binger

Only until he reached the age of maturity and he ran like hell away.


10 posted on 05/04/2013 11:01:21 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: svcw

Observation.


11 posted on 05/04/2013 11:02:14 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: greyfoxx39

Time for Fair Tax, open borders and repeal of all mimimum wage laws and entitlements


12 posted on 05/04/2013 11:02:40 AM PDT by scottteng (Tax government employees til they quit and find something useful to do)
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To: svcw

I read the story to mean more than half of all Mormons will be Latino; not that half of all Central Americans will be Mormon.


13 posted on 05/04/2013 11:06:53 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Weird?
So you appear to be condemning all church groups because you have observed a few who are possibly corrupt.
How sad, you have never been to a Biblical based church.


14 posted on 05/04/2013 11:07:53 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: svcw
You are probably right but I think they are very few in number. Probably non money driven churches are lay meetings(which could be called a church)devoted to prayer and bible study. The only danger arising out of such lay churches is that of falling into heresy. Knowledge skill and experience are needed to properly interpret scripture. However, an educated sincere layman is probably better than a Sodomie priest or preacher.
15 posted on 05/04/2013 11:08:52 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: DuncanWaring

Well, if that’s the case you could be correct.

The story said:
If the Mormon Church continues to grow at current rates, it will be majority Latin American by 2015.


16 posted on 05/04/2013 11:10:06 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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“[T]he kingdom of God... is to be a POLITICAL INSTITUTION THAT SHALL HOLD SWAY OVER ALL THE EARTH; TO WHICH ALL OTHER GOVERNMENTS WILL BE SUBORDINATE AND BY WHICH THEY WILL BE DOMINATED.” The Rise and Fall of Nauvoo, 1900, p. 180
“The Almighty has established this kingdom with order and laws and every thing pertaining thereto…[so] that when the nations shall be convulsed, we may stand forth as saviours…and finally redeem a ruined world, not only in a religious but in a political point of view.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, p. 342, April 13, 1862)
“What the world calls ‘Mormonism’ will rule every nation...God has decreed it, and his own right arm will accomplish it. This will make the heathen rage.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 53)

17 posted on 05/04/2013 11:11:57 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith died in a gun battle. This is NOT a martyr's death!)
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To: svcw

I believe you interpreted it as saying “...it will be THE majority IN Latin America...”.


18 posted on 05/04/2013 11:16:58 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Tithing is for supporting the Shepard IE pastor/lead elder, the idea being they lead and not have to worry about everyday living.
Offerings support meeting places, out reach.
Alms for missions.
Church groups can not function with out funds, its that simple.
I have never attended a church group where the pastor/lead elder lived a lavish life style or where finances were not open to all attendees (summaries monthly, fully disclosed quarterly) or missions were not active in the community (local, state, national or world wide)

Because people are flawed people stray, it is unreasonable to say all.

I really wonder where you observed.


19 posted on 05/04/2013 11:17:11 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yep


20 posted on 05/04/2013 11:18:03 AM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Just another adorable human interest story to support Obama's Cloward-Piven Permanent Democrat Majority immigration policies. And -- they throw in the Mormon angle because of Obama's latest failed GOP opponent. Give me a break.

I'm in the wrong business -- I should be writing propaganda, because I certainly know it when I see it.

21 posted on 05/04/2013 11:24:02 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: svcw
I personally do not know any church group who would knowingly break the law.

You don't live in the northeast, do you?

22 posted on 05/04/2013 11:25:29 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: DuncanWaring

For what it’s worth, the Mormons in Mexico and in Central America are largely empty buildings. They really don’t have much to brag about. If they get adherents, people are going for the THINGS that the Mormon church has to offer them, a Marriage in Heaven, or some financial help to get buy. Not many are converting to their book of Joseph Smith


23 posted on 05/04/2013 11:30:31 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: greyfoxx39
Beware of Mormons. They will try to do anything to attract you to their faith. In my country (Slovakia) they were offering free English courses with native speakers and some weird course about quitting smoking.

However they have managed to get about 150 people of 5, 3 milion of Slovaks so far.

24 posted on 05/04/2013 11:32:33 AM PDT by Slovak and Catholic
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Perhaps you have, without noting it, pinpointed the very problem with churches; the need for endless streams of cash to support social and building programs. To get cash one must FOLLOW current trends-gay marriage-rather than lead or stand against such trends. For if a pastor offends a donor the latter will not give cash. Read the financial statements-if you can trust them-and rejoice at the large overhead and expense ledger.

In this day and age it is probably better to enter into lay groups for prayer and study.

25 posted on 05/04/2013 11:39:21 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: svcw
Perhaps you have, without noting it, pinpointed the very problem with churches; the need for endless streams of cash to support social and building programs. To get cash one must FOLLOW current trends-gay marriage-rather than lead or stand against such trends. For if a pastor offends a donor the latter will not give cash. Read the financial statements-if you can trust them-and rejoice at the large overhead and expense ledger.

In this day and age it is probably better to enter into lay groups for prayer and study.

26 posted on 05/04/2013 11:39:38 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Slovak and Catholic

..... worth reposting for continued discussion

Mormon Missionary Deception Method:

1. Convince you of their sincerity
2. Trick you into expressing faith first in the Book of Mormon by praying and asking for a sign (this takes you off the objective ground of Biblical truth and puts you into subjective ground of feelings)
3. Convince you that the Bible has errors in its translation
4. Trick you into expressing faith in the prophet Joseph Smith
5. Trick you into expressing faith in the Restoration of the “Gospel” (see Galatians Chapter one)
6. Get you all the way into the baptismal font...

..........................................................

7. ONLY THEN... you will learn the true DEVIANT doctrines of
Mormonism. At this point, it is too late! You only have
feelings as a basis of truth! You will believe anything.

..........................................................

Such as the following “truths” taught in mormonism ...

... God used to be a regular man, but became God.
... The Jesus of mormonism was a created spirit being who became one of the FOUR mormon earth gods
... Speaking of gods, there are trillions of mormon gods out there!
... Speaking of gods, you can be a God with your own planet!
... It will take work, lots of works to attain the god-level - not unlike any multi-level marketing scheme.
... Speaking of levels, heaven has three levels.
... Did we mention mormonism believes in a Mother God too? More than one often.
... SHE is eternally pregnant
... SHE pops out spirit children who will some day get a human body on earth
... SHE and the father god have celestial sex continually.
... All the trillions of gods in the mormon pantheon get together regularly over spring break in Kolob Beach to talk
... Did we mention one of the works you have to do is give 10%?
... Did we mention your bishop will audit you?
... Did we mention you will have to complete Masonic Temple rituals that involve strangers touching your private parts?
... Did we mention you will have magic underwear you must always wear?
... Did we mention we believe in eternally polygamy?
... Did we mention that in eternity, all single females will be assigned to a male god?

... and on and on...

Did we mention that swallowing all this may take swallowing
lots of prescription drugs (Utah has the highest usage of
prescription tranquilizers).

Once in, you have to accept it ALL to move up the chain
towards Godhood.

ampu


27 posted on 05/04/2013 11:53:09 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Albion Wilde
And -- they throw in the Mormon angle because of Obama's latest failed GOP opponent.

So, the fact that there are around 100,000 mormon missionaries now going around the world telling Christians that their Christian faith is bogus and the only way to salvation is through arcane rituals in mormon temples and....the mormon church aids and abets illegals in spreading these lies is of no importance?

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28 posted on 05/04/2013 11:57:45 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith died in a gun battle. This is NOT a martyr's death!)
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To: Albion Wilde

No, I do not....thank goodness. ;-)


29 posted on 05/04/2013 12:02:17 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

You simple have no idea what you are talking about, and apparently did not read anything I wrote.


30 posted on 05/04/2013 12:04:15 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: svcw

I stand by what I said.


31 posted on 05/04/2013 12:06:25 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: iowamark

I think it is really likely he did not know he was illegal. it is not something they would have discussed and there are never any questions asked when registering for school.

That however does NOT relieve him or his family from what they did. The knowingly broke our laws for nearly 20 years. They all need to go back and apply legally.
NO pathway while still living here.


32 posted on 05/04/2013 12:06:35 PM PDT by RWGinger
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

So you didn’t read what I wrote, ok then.


33 posted on 05/04/2013 12:10:22 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: iowamark

“Does anybody believe that this kid had no idea at age 18 that they were illegals?”


Well, he IS Mormon. They’re not aware that the whole Kolob space story sounds pretty silly to everybody else, so..


34 posted on 05/04/2013 12:22:09 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: greyfoxx39

Between the lawless confusions on illegal aliens I’m in favor of arresting all who enable this law breaking including the foolish Mormons, Catholics and leftist Christians. Plus why don’t these orgs pay some damn taxes!


35 posted on 05/04/2013 1:17:45 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: greyfoxx39

The story may be 100% true. But it is a prime example of the type of tearjerker the left always trots out when trying to use an example of one person’s experience to justify outlawing the cultural expectations of the other 99.9%. And this one just sounds completely made up to me. Especially the bogus claim that Mormonism will become the top dog in Latin precincts.


36 posted on 05/04/2013 1:49:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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You are an illegal immigrant a border invader from Mexico,'" he said.
37 posted on 05/04/2013 2:25:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
 

If you have cable TV, there won’t be much on to watch.


 

 

 

 

If there isn’t much on to watch, you will answer your door whenever someone rings.


 

 

 

 

If you open your door, you will see mormons.


 

 

 

 

If you talk to mormons, they will trick you into “praying about whether something is true”.


 

 

 

 

If you rely on your feelings, you may become a mormon.


 

 

 

 

If you become a mormon, you will have to wear magic underwear!


 

 

 

 

If you wear magic underwear, people will immediately label you as a cultist.


DON’T be a cultist!
Get DirectTV.


38 posted on 05/04/2013 2:26:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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One of your funniest ... kudos.


39 posted on 05/04/2013 2:28:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: greyfoxx39

If the Mormon Church continues to grow at current rates, it will be majority Latin American by 2015.
_________________________________________________

Oh noez !!!

No longer white and delightsome ???

What to do ??? What to do ???


40 posted on 05/04/2013 2:53:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

his family moved from Mexico to the U.S.
________________________________________________

No they didnt

Theyre ILLEGAL ALIENS who snuck into our coountry without prior permission...

They are criminals who breoke the law and continued to break the law by their illegal presence..


41 posted on 05/04/2013 2:56:34 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

“She told me, ‘I don’t know how to put this in words to you. You’re not a U.S. citizen. You are an illegal immigrant from Mexico,’” he said.
____________________________________________

seems like his mother was a practiced liar...

she even had trouble telling the truth to her own children...


42 posted on 05/04/2013 2:58:05 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: svcw
41,739,000 - population of Central America, 2010

mormonism 538,000 = 0.13%

Do you have the percentages for Mexico, North America?

43 posted on 05/04/2013 5:36:59 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: All

Mod decided to move this thread to bloggers/personal from news...can’t imagine why, with the interest regarding immigration right now.


44 posted on 05/04/2013 5:56:19 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Joseph Smith died in a gun battle. This is NOT a martyr's death!)
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To: Graybeard58

Mexico’s population, 2011 - 115,296,767

religion - 2010
Catholic, - 95,824,297 = 83%
Protestant - 10,376,709 = 9%
mormons - 1,140,000 = 1%
declared atheist - 5,764,838 = 5%
other - 3,793,263 = 3%

Do mean all of North America or the United States?


45 posted on 05/04/2013 6:12:41 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Well, it’s an improvement.....didn’t get pulled.


46 posted on 05/04/2013 6:16:14 PM PDT by svcw (If you are dead when your heart stops, why aren't you alive when it starts.)
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To: greyfoxx39

We’d knock on the door and they’d insult us.”
______________________________________

Immigrants knocked on the door and your presence here insults them...


47 posted on 05/04/2013 6:48:53 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

How DARE you not use the PC ambivalent ambiguous statement the MSM uses to describe a person of color (light) that has chosen to (travel at great risk to themselves) and avail themselves of the blessings of America that are given to a vast numbers of US citizens that are loafers and baby mamas!!!

I’ll bet you (being a HATER and all) are also a bigot who rejects the message of the ONLY man on Earth that speaks for GOD!

—MormonDude(I believe: I believe)


48 posted on 05/05/2013 4:12:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39

IMMIGRATIOM

What’s WRONG with it that it needs REFORMED?

(I know that early Egyptian was hard to write...)


49 posted on 05/05/2013 4:14:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
Mod decided to move this thread to bloggers/personal from news...can’t imagine why, with the interest regarding immigration right now.

Our National 'interest' has shifted a bit these days...



 Margaret Young and Mohammed Mushib are eloquent, funny, sharp and, frankly, a little tired of being seen as “fringy.”
 
Golly!   I seem to recall a couple of brothers who shared a very similar lament ---   
 
 http://www.latitudenews.com/story/latitude-news-podcast-5-the-mormon-the-muslim/

50 posted on 05/05/2013 4:20:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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