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1 posted on 05/04/2013 3:54:55 PM PDT by kreitzer
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Nothing against Rush of course.


2 posted on 05/04/2013 3:55:40 PM PDT by kreitzer
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The way to beat liberals is not to trick them; it is to flush them away like the sewage they are.


4 posted on 05/04/2013 3:59:44 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU...)
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Rush doesn’t convince people?

Yes, no one who does not LISTEN to his show, EVAR.

But if they listen 1 or 2 times, they’re hooked.


5 posted on 05/04/2013 4:01:24 PM PDT by gaijin
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Rush wins arguments by screaming “Your [sic] an idiot”...?

REALLY?

The only person who’d say that is someone who has NEVER heard his show. In fact he’s polite —incredibly so. To callers, to his friends, to co-workers, to his pilots and ground crew, to people he is SUPPOSED to hate, the list goes on and on.

It’s just “cool” to say that Rush is mean, and sorry, but that’s just incorrect. The truth is MUCH harder, much more complex —Rush takes care of people and even many of the libs who call his show.

The left needs to repeat “Rush is mean and screams” because the very thought of even giving him just ONE CHANCE is terrifying to them. And it’s terrifying because deep down they have a dawning sense of just how rickety it is, their conceptual model of how the world works.

They ignore and bash him, and he is GOING TO WIN. And so are WE.


6 posted on 05/04/2013 4:07:47 PM PDT by gaijin
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That was Milton Friedman's great trick. He educated neo-marxists about what the free market actually does and in the process helped turned all of western civilization in the direction of economic liberty for a generation. He only ever spoke to those opposed to economic liberty in language they they understood.

Any one thinking that Zero's followers could even hang in a Econ class, let alone with Friedman, is kidding themselves. Most of Obama's people, the 47 percent ... plus, couldn't get by the Calc 3 course to get into intermediate Econ course. (At least that is what I had to do 30 years ago)

7 posted on 05/04/2013 4:07:50 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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Logical arguments to convince morons? Logic is necessary, but one should go negative, also.

Rush Rocks, too!

9 posted on 05/04/2013 4:08:36 PM PDT by Stepan12
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Ah, yes; divide and conquer.
Make Conservatives think their worst enemies are...Conservatives!
10 posted on 05/04/2013 4:09:13 PM PDT by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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""Your an idiot"

Wouldn't that be "You're an idiot" idiot?

11 posted on 05/04/2013 4:09:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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“Your an idiot”?? First, it’s you’re an idiot, and second, you’re an idiot.


12 posted on 05/04/2013 4:10:07 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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Reaching across the aisle only benefits the person you reach across to in politics.


13 posted on 05/04/2013 4:10:12 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican, no Conservative was on the ballot. 969 yall.)
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The basic premise of the author is flawed. He thinks liberals are open to reasonable discussion of issues.

They are not. Their views are based on emotion.


15 posted on 05/04/2013 4:12:00 PM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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What a bunch of baloney.

I won’t point out all the poor logic in this piece.

But the main flaw in the author’s reasoning is that one can persuade liberals. One does not persuade liberals. One defeats them. You don’t convert them to your way of thinking (impossible), you overcome them. They are mentally ill.


16 posted on 05/04/2013 4:12:04 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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Tom’s a touch thick.


17 posted on 05/04/2013 4:13:56 PM PDT by Stentor
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Nah. Better to go after the low hanging fruit. That’s the way the Left does it. They go after the college and HS kids, the skulls full of mush, that are generally open minded. We have to convince those that will listen that the Leftists are nothing less than vicious authoritarians.
As far as Rush is concerned, he seems to be phoning it in nowadays. Focusing on the superficial culture stuff is really boring, but that’s probably what it takes to attract new low info voters.


18 posted on 05/04/2013 4:17:58 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est.)
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Attention whore 101: If you want to bring attention to your ignorant article or book, simply mention the words "Rush Limbaugh"

It worked for Al Franken.......

20 posted on 05/04/2013 4:20:15 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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Your [sic] an idiot, eh? Well, maybe you are the idiot not Rush for doing his job effectively.
21 posted on 05/04/2013 4:20:35 PM PDT by Stepan12
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We know logic and reason don't mean nearly as much to liberals as their emotions. We know that intentions matter much more to them than outcomes. We know they care about fairness and equality Really???), and that their decisions must be framed in a self congratulatory way. none of that is so difficult that we can't accomplish it. Rush Limbaugh offers an incredibly satisfying rant, but he doesn't convince people like Milton Friedman did. We meed more of the latter and less of the former.

How many folks here think the Liberals care about fairness and equality? What a load of B.S.

They demand fairness and equality for themselves while dishing out a complete lack of fairness and equality to whoever they're talking to. They can't win in a debate unless the questions, the audience and the judges are all in their favor. They demand that we accept their Weltanschauung as gospel much like they demand we acknowledge climate change/global warming as 'settled science'.

So this article doesn't hit the target or even come near it; it sounds like a RHINO trying to get us to go along with liberals on things like immigration and gun control and if we just do that, then the world will love us and we'll win the next Presidential election. I'm sure Hillary will be healthy enough to run then (actually she'll be healthy as soon as Benghazi is swept under the rug).

23 posted on 05/04/2013 4:21:57 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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Rush persuades people all the time, but you cant persuade anyone who refuses to deal with reality, which, in my view, is the primary symptom of the mental disease called Liberalism. Rush is the Mayor of Realville which is a place most liberals refuse to go.......


24 posted on 05/04/2013 4:23:39 PM PDT by ABMer17xx
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...I went on at length about how we need to speak to liberals in a language they understand?

"Here's some free stuff confiscated from your neighbors and handed over to you in exchange for your vote."
Like that?

Sorry, but no sale on this. Liberals can't be persuaded. They are incapable of linear thought ("If this, then this") and are, ultimately, the most humorless, selfish people on earth. They walk into the polling place and vote for big government to confiscate more from their neighbors and from complete strangers. How rude and boorish is that? You don't "persuade" that knid of scum - - you smash it in the mouth and beat it into submission.

I am grateful, though, that thanks to Milton Freidman's persuasive arguments Phil Donahue became a conservative.

25 posted on 05/04/2013 4:24:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Very naive and poorly thought out post.

Liberal advocates cannot be reasoned with. They aren’t concerned with the truth. Their quest is power and winning. Period.

Find liberals who aren’t advocates and use logic and reason with them. You have a chance with them if they are honest.


26 posted on 05/04/2013 4:27:26 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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