Skip to comments.British National Archives show a son was born to Obama Sr. in 1961 in Kenya
Posted on 05/04/2013 7:35:39 PM PDT by bgill
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Ah yes, I do remember that thread.
Zoomed off into the far reaches of outer space.
I have noted that, too! The deep jaw on all...
Looks like she gave birth to her first child not long after she arrived in Kenya, so Mark's birth year would be 1965...not that he's ever said when he was born.
Dreams From My Father - excerpt:
...”Its this business with the Old Mans estate. Sarah is one of the people who has disputed the will. Shes been telling people that Roy, Bernard, myself — that none of us are the Old Mans children.” Auma sighed. “I dont know. A part of me sympathizes with her. Shes had a hard life. She never had the chances the Old Man had, you see, to study or go abroad. It made her very bitter. She thinks that somehow my mum, myself, that we are to blame for her situation.”
“But how much could the Old Mans estate be worth?”
“Not much. Maybe a small government pension. A piece of worthless land. I try to stay out of it. Whatever is there has probably been spent on lawyers by now. But you see, everyone expected so much from the Old Man. He made them think that he had everything, even when he had nothing. So now, instead of getting on with their lives, they just wait and argue among themselves, thinking that the Old Man somehow is going to rescue them from his grave...”
I can agree with your take on Cruz as to being up front as a politician except for the endorsement as POTUSA. For me Cruz does not satisfy my belief that the requirement the Founders intended as to POTUSA being a ‘natural born citizen’. Our Constitution is much more valuable and important than any one individual no matter what the individual’s personal political persuasion is. There are too many persons ,50%+or-, who have burdened the USA with Obama because they make the same choice as to their wishes.
INHERITANCE LAWS - SEE CASE STUDY - KENYA
...The law does not apply to Muslims, and exceptions of farmland, crops, and livestock in certain districts result in the application of customary law to this property. Under Kenyas patrilineal system, the estate goes to the deceaseds sons; where there are no sons, the deceased is treated as unmarried, thus excluding the widow in both cases...
I looked over that thread you linked to; I too am stumped.
Would the new info from the foia’d INA docs, that BHO SR was born in 1934- not 1936- help clear up any confusion about that five year gap?
Does the dates 1954 marriage, 1958 birth, 1960 birth, help peg the Kezia timeline better, since they relate to a national archive entry?
Then we have the 1961 event to figure.
If this 1961 event is tied in with the 1961 Kenya info found in that out of the way library (light yellow typewritten paper) showing number of people came to the us from kenya, then that frames things.
I’m talking about starting with national archives and govt beancounter ‘database’ entries and use those to adjust the interviews.... the archive type data is contemporaneous, while the interviews rely on peoples memories which may get the dates off.
This is a variation on the theory that "If there was anything to be found, Hillary would have found it." It is a type of fallacy known as a "non-sequitur."
From what I have been reading, the State governmental officials of Hawaii hold all the keys, and so far attempts to use the legal system to force them to divulge their records have been futile.
This is not the same thing as "PROVING" there is nothing there. It only proves that we can't get at evidence because of the stupidity and recalcitrance of our legal system. I have long argued that an article of the US Constitution should be an automatic trump over any lesser law, including state privacy laws, but our courts have routinely held that the State Privacy laws occupy a superior position than does constitutional law.
Of course they don't say it like that, but this is the decision spoken by their actions.
Regarding Hawaii, I have read numerous articles which accuse Hawaii of having run an American citizenship market for the entire pacific rim, and that this practice was blatant starting in the 50s and continuing all the way to the present. Hawaii's birth certificate laws allow for a great deal of abuse if state officials are so inclined to use them that way.
Of course this little tidbit never seems to register with people.
I have no faith in the Veracity of records purported to be from Kenya UNLESS they are part of a known body of documents which left Kenya long ago, and exist in the archives of a reputable organization. English records might fit this requirement provided we can look at the actual records, not what someone is claiming is in there.
"Anchor baby" crap is a phenomena that started occurring in the 1970s according to Ann Coulter. Jeff Winston will tell you it was always the law, but he is full of Obama.
Again, I am often amazed at your ability to ferret out information such as this.
Laugh all you want, O kilted one. But I refuse to listen to anything that contradicts my genetically scientifically proven theory that The Mombasa Mofo is non-other than your own Stuart "King over the Water." (I had originally held that he was the Lost Dauphin of France, but new DNA evidence has just come in from Hawaii.)
That is why this case will never be heard by our SCOTUS. To do so would obviously be a case of lèse majesté. So, reel back to the heelands, you scallywag!
(Fired the wrong barrel with my Joey Plugs Scattergun>)
You’re right, I think bho SR was trying to stay based on something other than anchor baby, and the ina was getting wind of his running around w girls; I remember reading later on where one girls mom was writing to them complaining about it.
Back in 1961 good moral character was way more important than today.
The ina was also concerned about bho SR and SADO living in separate states.
(For clarification, the quote below is from greenperson:
Dr. Eowyn makes a very good point: If BHO the elder had acknowledged the birth of a US citizen son to the INS,that anchor baby would be his ticket to stay in the USA. Why didnt he use that son as an argument against his own deportation,several years later,when he was kicked out of the USA? Barry was supposed to be living in Hawaii at the time,with his mother. Even though they were estranged,his son was still his son, wasnt he?
98 posted on Sun May 05 2013 15:14:44 GMT-0500 (CDT) by Greenperson [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies | Report Abuse])
Forgot to ping u to #155.
Thank you. I couldn't remember his name even though I am almost his age.
Of course they don’t say it like that, but this is the decision spoken by their actions.
Regarding Hawaii, I have read numerous articles which accuse Hawaii of having run an American citizenship market for the entire pacific rim, and that this practice was blatant starting in the 50s and continuing all the way to the present. Hawaii’s birth certificate laws allow for a great deal of abuse if state officials are so inclined to use them that way.
Of course this little tidbit never seems to register with people. “
After seeing that second photo of Mooney, my mind is racing. Imagining the possibilities. Another American mother, just not the one we think? Born in Kenya, adopted by ...
Proof of such is difficult to come by because all parties to such a scam would be loath for the truth to come out. It might endanger their citizenship on the one hand, and it might implicate Hawaiian officials on the other.
With that in mind, I know of one person on the internet (yeah, like that's proof.) who claims to have been born in Brisbane Australia, yet also says he has a Hawaiian birth certificate which claims he was born there. Likewise, I believe the cold case posse claims to have examples from several people of just such birth certificate fraud on the part of Hawaii.
I have seen no actual proof of this, but that does not establish that none exists. I merely don't have access to it. Hopefully the cold case posse will be able to make an irrefutable case, though given past experience, I shall not be surprised to be disappointed.
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