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British National Archives show a son was born to Obama Sr. in 1961 in Kenya
gopthedailydose ^ | May 4, 2013 | Dr. Eowyn

Posted on 05/04/2013 7:35:39 PM PDT by bgill

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To: WildHighlander57
I believe he attempted to do so. The INS wasn't buying it. Back then, they weren't following that "Anchor baby" crap. Eisenhower deported hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants back in the 1950s, along with their US born children.

"Anchor baby" crap is a phenomena that started occurring in the 1970s according to Ann Coulter. Jeff Winston will tell you it was always the law, but he is full of Obama.

151 posted on 05/06/2013 8:22:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Fred Nerks

Again, I am often amazed at your ability to ferret out information such as this.


152 posted on 05/06/2013 8:27:35 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: WildHighlander57
And this one born in Kenya just happened to be born on the same day as Bhobo!?! LOL Okey dokey....

Laugh all you want, O kilted one. But I refuse to listen to anything that contradicts my genetically scientifically proven theory that The Mombasa Mofo is non-other than your own Stuart "King over the Water." (I had originally held that he was the Lost Dauphin of France, but new DNA evidence has just come in from Hawaii.)

That is why this case will never be heard by our SCOTUS. To do so would obviously be a case of lèse majesté. So, reel back to the heelands, you scallywag!

153 posted on 05/06/2013 8:51:57 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: TigersEye
Ping

(Fired the wrong barrel with my Joey Plugs Scattergun>)

154 posted on 05/06/2013 8:58:33 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Diogenes lamp,

You’re right, I think bho SR was trying to stay based on something other than anchor baby, and the ina was getting wind of his running around w girls; I remember reading later on where one girls mom was writing to them complaining about it.

Back in 1961 good moral character was way more important than today.

The ina was also concerned about bho SR and SADO living in separate states.

(For clarification, the quote below is from greenperson:

Dr. Eowyn makes a very good point: If BHO the elder had acknowledged the birth of a US citizen son to the INS,that “anchor baby” would be his ticket to stay in the USA. Why didn’t he use that son as an argument against his own deportation,several years later,when he was kicked out of the USA? Barry was supposed to be living in Hawaii at the time,with his mother. Even though they were estranged,his “son” was still his son, wasn’t he?

98 posted on Sun May 05 2013 15:14:44 GMT-0500 (CDT) by Greenperson [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies | Report Abuse])


155 posted on 05/06/2013 9:01:38 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57; Greenperson

Forgot to ping u to #155.


156 posted on 05/06/2013 9:04:51 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Tennessee Nana
Chester Arthur was not NBC

Thank you. I couldn't remember his name even though I am almost his age.

157 posted on 05/06/2013 9:08:41 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Of course they don’t say it like that, but this is the decision spoken by their actions.

Regarding Hawaii, I have read numerous articles which accuse Hawaii of having run an American citizenship market for the entire pacific rim, and that this practice was blatant starting in the 50s and continuing all the way to the present. Hawaii’s birth certificate laws allow for a great deal of abuse if state officials are so inclined to use them that way.

Of course this little tidbit never seems to register with people. “


It would help the cause and the amount of publicity if plaintiffs in the hundreds of lawsuits that have been filed would present some actual examples of identity theft/document fraud from Hawaii, to establish the pattern.
Just alleging that Hawaii has/had lax standards won’t cut it in court and Congress hasn’t been very interested in this issue. I wonder if there were ever any Congresssional hearings on Hawaii birth certificate standards prior to Obama coming on the scene.


158 posted on 05/06/2013 9:33:55 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Fred Nerks

After seeing that second photo of Mooney, my mind is racing. Imagining the possibilities. Another American mother, just not the one we think? Born in Kenya, adopted by ...


159 posted on 05/06/2013 9:34:21 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Nero Germanicus
It would help the cause and the amount of publicity if plaintiffs in the hundreds of lawsuits that have been filed would present some actual examples of identity theft/document fraud from Hawaii, to establish the pattern. Just alleging that Hawaii has/had lax standards won’t cut it in court and Congress hasn’t been very interested in this issue. I wonder if there were ever any Congresssional hearings on Hawaii birth certificate standards prior to Obama coming on the scene.

Proof of such is difficult to come by because all parties to such a scam would be loath for the truth to come out. It might endanger their citizenship on the one hand, and it might implicate Hawaiian officials on the other.

With that in mind, I know of one person on the internet (yeah, like that's proof.) who claims to have been born in Brisbane Australia, yet also says he has a Hawaiian birth certificate which claims he was born there. Likewise, I believe the cold case posse claims to have examples from several people of just such birth certificate fraud on the part of Hawaii.

I have seen no actual proof of this, but that does not establish that none exists. I merely don't have access to it. Hopefully the cold case posse will be able to make an irrefutable case, though given past experience, I shall not be surprised to be disappointed.

160 posted on 05/06/2013 10:59:45 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: bgill

Website for British national archives :
Mentions fifth release of colonial administration records.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/news/832.htm


161 posted on 05/06/2013 11:51:28 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Kenny Bunk

Okey dokey.


162 posted on 05/06/2013 11:59:13 AM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Greenperson

From memory, both Elizabeth and Frank Laubach were in Kenya in 1958 when the kenyan started working for her as her secretary. She was instrumental in providing the funds for his flight to New York in August 1959, and his initial sponsor is shown as the Laubach Literacy Fund, as is Frank Laubach himself as a nearest contact in the US.
Frank Laubach spent something like 15 years as a missionary in the Philippines...

At first interview in Hawaii in September, the kenyan stated he only had enough funds for one or two semesters and needed to find work and a sponsor.

Elizabeth apparently provided funds from her own resources for his living expenses, but that stopped...when she advised him he should contact the AASF (African American Students Foundation) as she was now married (Kirk) and could no longer assist him financially.

True or not? If he did contact the AASF that would have brought him to the attention of Cora Weiss, who would not have known who or where he was, as he wasn’t connected in any way to the AIRLIFT, a fact which Cora Weiss has been forced to admit...recently:

“The first plane was paid for because Harry Belafonte, Jackie Robinson and Sidney Poitier, together signed a fundraising letter,” Mrs. Weiss said.

“In that first group of 1959, 81 students came.”

“Barack Obama missed out on a seat on that first plane. Luckily the two teachers stepped in and raised money for him to come over on a parallel flight,” she said.

“He picked up the scholarship from the University of Hawaii. And while he was there, he needed money for books and tuition and clothes, some of which we sent him.

“So he wasn’t on the airlift, but he was a member of the airlift family.”

http://www.mvgazette.com/news/2009/08/27/unlikely-events-recall-story-president

How-ever, if Cora did make funds available to him from the foundation, he must have ‘forgotten’ to acknowledge it, because he doesn’t, throughout his entire period in the US, show the AASF as a sponsor. He shows The Stokes-Phelps Fund which might have had some connection to the AASF, but that sponsor isn’t noted until he’s already at Harvard.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File

Cora Weiss insists and insists that the AASF supported the kenyan, but although she says ‘I can show you check-butts’ and waves her hands around in the air very convincingly, there has never been any confirmation that he was a beneficiary of the AASF.

http://blip.tv/africana-librarians-council-/the-kenya-airlift-1959-1963-unearthing-africana-collections-and-providing-global-access-part-2-3579698

If you look at the INS docs you’ll find he worked for the pine-apple cannery The Dole Corp for one month. So other than the Laubach/Elizabeth Mooney-Kirk contribution and some casual work (washing dishes in a cafe?) that was all he had to live on in Hawaii, and as his associates stated in tribute letters, he lived in a small room with one hotplate for cooking, ‘rather like a hermit’ .

The INS docs show his forwarding address after he left Hawaii as - THE KOINONIA FOUNDATION in Baltimore,Maryland. Both Frank Laubach and Elizabeth were on the board of that foundation:

http://www.koinoniafoundation.com/history/

And to get back to your question...another American mother...who knows, it’s like the man said, I came here to drain the swamp, not kill the crocodiles, LOL....


163 posted on 05/06/2013 2:36:28 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: WildHighlander57
I can't answer your questions, I don't know why there's a five year gap. It's always been there. Maybe it's because we don't know enough about the period between 1954 and 1959 other than what we have been spoon-fed.

I doubt there's much to be learned from trying to fix a chronology to events, it was patently obvious in 2008 that the reason 'Dreams' has no chronology is so that the protagonists could not be followed. You'll learn more from the mistakes and omissions if you look for them - no lies are ever perfect, and they do make mistakes.

As for the record of airline arrivals in the period from July 1961 up to the end of June, 1962, one needs to remember that the younger brother Omar, who was introduced in 'Dreams' as the one who 'went away and got lost' attended a private high school in Boston CLASS OF 1966, and if that was a four year high school, he would have arrived in that period shown, which means he and the kenyan both arrived in Boston in the summer of 1962 and it is recorded, they shared accommodation.

170 Magazine Street, Cambridge.

Articles about Omar Obama, or Obama Onyango as he now calls himself, state his commencement as 1963, but I have my doubts...Class of 1966 commences in 1962 by my calculations.

It seems to make sense that the brothers would arrive in Boston at the same time, doesn't it?

“...The only African student at the school, Obama stood out in a number of other respects. Not only was he three years older than most of the boys in the sophomore class, his arch colonial accent immediately marked him as different. That he initially lived with his brother in a rented apartment in Cambridge, a place often churning with visiting Kenyan students, added to his exoticism. But within a few weeks the normally reserved Obama had made a large number of close friends, many of whom remember his sunny disposition nearly half a century later...

QUOTED FROM ARTICLE NOW REMOVED

Originally posted FR comment

164 posted on 05/06/2013 3:04:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: WildHighlander57
One of seven children born to the president’s grandfather, Hussein Onyango, Omar Obama arrived in the United States with the help of his half-brother Barack, who was working toward his doctorate in economics at Harvard University and paid $300 towards his traveling expenses. Omar was directed to Browne & Nichols, a prestigious private boys school, by Ellen Frost, a friend of the elder Barack’s whose father was the preparatory school’s treasurer. Frost recalls the 19-year-old Omar on his arrival in Cambridge as, “a happy, bubbly outgoing boy. He loved to tell stories about lions and the wild animals of his youth. I don’t know if they were true, but the other boys were completely fascinated by him; he was so completely different from everyone else at the school.’’ The only African student at the school, Obama stood out in a number of other respects. Not only was he three years older than most of the boys in the sophomore class, his arch colonial accent immediately marked him as different. That he initially lived with his brother in a rented apartment in Cambridge, a place often churning with visiting Kenyan students, added to his exoticism. But within a few weeks the normally reserved Obama had made a large number of close friends, many of whom remember his sunny disposition nearly half a century later. “Omar was great, friendly and very open,’’ recalled classmate Robert Krim, an assistant professor of management at Clark University in Worcester. “This was a time of civil rights and I was a white kid from Newton. So here comes Omar, black and African. I found this fellow completely exciting. It was as though he dropped in from somewhere completely different, which I guess he had.’’ Nonetheless, Obama seemed to fit right in. He joined the debate and newspaper clubs. He posed for class photographs of the Class of 1966 in his crisp white shirt and tweed blazer. And when the varsity soccer team headed to the field, with Obama as its lead striker, many on campus flocked to watch him.

SOURCE

165 posted on 05/06/2013 3:23:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Greenperson
Pay particular attention to this statement by Cora Weiss:

“Barack Obama missed out on a seat on that first plane. Luckily the two teachers stepped in and raised money for him to come over on a parallel flight,” she said.

PARALLEL FLIGHT? The next airlift contingent arrived in September 1960, ONE YEAR LATER.

166 posted on 05/06/2013 3:42:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Again, I am often amazed at your ability to ferret out information such as this.

It's fascinating to ferret out the little lies which abound in their thousands throughout the entire chaotic story, like a stone thrown into the smooth water of a pond, the first impact spreads in ever-widening circles across the entire surface...

167 posted on 05/06/2013 3:51:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: WildHighlander57

Thanks.


168 posted on 05/06/2013 4:07:26 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: bgill

You’re welcome.

There is a link in the website where one can request research be done, hopefully the cost for that is less than a plane ticket, lodging, and rental car.

:D


169 posted on 05/06/2013 5:51:23 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Greenperson; All

Cora Weiss is the wife of New York Lawyer, Peter Weiss, founder of the Institute for Policy Studies and daughter of Samuel Rubin, a funder of many left-wing organizations. Weiss was a director of the Samuel Rubin Foundation from its inception. She was also instrumental in the funding decision to create the Institute for Policy Studies. She gained notoriety as a leader of the Vietnam War era anti-American coalitions who traveled to Paris and Hanoi for repeated meetings with communist leaders.

Peace activism

Weiss is a supporter of the United Nations, an early member of Women Strike for Peace, a leader in the anti-Vietnam war movement in the United States. In the 1970s Weiss was the director of the Riverside Church (New York, NY) Disarmament Program. Weiss was also active with SANE, SANE/Freeze, Peace Action, and The Hague Appeal for Peace. Weiss became president of the International Peace Bureau in 2000. She has always been active in women's peace issues, hosting the first women's radio program in New York City in the 1970s, attending women's disarmament summits in the former Soveit Union, the U.N. Conference on Women in Beijing in 1995, and many other events.[1]

Hard Times Conference

In 1976 Cora Weiss for Friendshipment and Women Strike for Peace attended the Weather Underground and Prairie Fire Organizing Committee organized Hard Times Conference Jan 30 - Feb 1 at the University of Chicago.[2]

CORA WEISS - KEYWIKI SOURCE

Malcolm X and Cora Weiss meeting airlift students.

170 posted on 05/06/2013 7:22:24 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: WildHighlander57; bgill; Greenperson

Interesting, obviously the goal is to identify the mysterious listing for a child born in 1961 with the surname Obama, and find out who his parents were.
What are the chances?
And would privacy laws such as to which you are accustomed in the US, not apply to births in Kenya in 1961, also?

A listing on an Index in the UK archives for an Obama birth for the period 1960-1964 such as exists at the library in Hawaii, will not show the name of the parents, nor an actual birthdate...

How-ever, I think this avenue should be pursued to its conclusion, and if the fee is reasonable, which I image it would be, I would be happy to contribute.

What needs to be asked also, is...could a citizen of Kenya parent, such as Barack Hussein Obama (Onyango) having become a father in a foreign country, be able to register that birth in Kenya, by perhaps sending a relative to the registrar of Births etc.


171 posted on 05/06/2013 8:13:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Fred,

Somewhere in my memory is the usage of “commencement” in conjunction with high school graduation, I.e. “commencement ceremony”, rather than usage having to do with “beginning” school.

Would this help the timeline; that article mentions omar being three years older than the rest of the classmates.

Snippet from your post for reference:

“....Articles about Omar Obama, or Obama Onyango as he now calls himself, state his commencement as 1963, but I have my doubts...Class of 1966 commences in 1962 by my calculations......”


172 posted on 05/07/2013 5:58:39 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fred Nerks

If the commencement was in 1963, then he would have started in 1959, using the “commencement” to mean graduation.


173 posted on 05/07/2013 6:03:28 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Math is wrong in the above two posts; use 1962 as the starting point and “three years older than sophomore” means Omar was 21 when he finished high school.


174 posted on 05/07/2013 6:13:42 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57
...means Omar was 21 when he finished high school.

And three years older than his classmates, who would have been 18, right?

Class of 1966 means 1966 graduation, four years of high school for Class of 1966 means 1962 commencement. So if he had attended for four years, he would have arrived in the summer of 1962.

One does need to read between the lines, we are being lied to up and down and inside out; telling us he arrived in 1963 eliminates the question, where did he get the money from, or make the contacts, that would provide his brother with airfare, living expenses and tuition at a private school. The lie just might give the kenyan student time to arrive in Cambridge, settle in, make some contacts and find a sponsor for his brother.

Problem with Cora isn't only that she's a communist, she has all the records under her control and if you want to see them it's by appointment.

175 posted on 05/07/2013 2:07:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: WildHighlander57

Try a little imagination; the kenyan student and his brother Omar, photographed together. When might that have been taken? They both look older than they might have been in 1964 when the kenyan student departed from Boston - and Omar also seems more than 19 years old, as he would have been in 1964...so it would seem, as Omar never showed up again in the village in Kenya, and the family described him as 'lost' - The photograph dates from the kenyan's visit to the US in 1970-71 and is of the same period as when you see him with zero at the airport in Hawaii.

The result? Omar wasn't lost. They all knew where he was. And when she was old enough, Zeituni also went to Boston. And that's why, when Zeituni was found, they also found Omar.

176 posted on 05/07/2013 3:42:28 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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looks like something went wrong there...the image I posted has disappeared, someone objected? I’ll post it again if it doesn’t miraculously reappear soon.


177 posted on 05/07/2013 8:21:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come Visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Its back, along with the 0:49 video time counter in the lower left..... I saved it just in case :0


178 posted on 05/08/2013 8:53:23 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Saw that, thanks, there’s something weird about imagesavings com. The images come and go. Btw, our erstwhile friend has been busy saving comments and cross posting them, he also had an article removed which I posted to the thread, so we decided to give him something to read:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2913366/posts?page=1077#1077

you might find something of interest there.


179 posted on 05/08/2013 9:34:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Tassie!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Could you repost your article post that got removed, the #1078 that was in this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2913366/posts?page=1077#1077


180 posted on 05/09/2013 10:24:28 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

I would have...if I could remember which one it was. Do you?


181 posted on 05/09/2013 1:40:51 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Tassie!)
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To: Fred Nerks

No I don’t remember which one; it was gone by the time I got there.


182 posted on 05/09/2013 3:29:05 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Fred Nerks

Looks like a screen shot from a video? Do you have a link to that video?


183 posted on 05/10/2013 6:58:22 AM PDT by GregNH (If you can't fight, please find a good place to hide!)
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To: GregNH

I’ll see if I can find it amongst my collection, but I might have picked up the screenshot from another website.


184 posted on 05/10/2013 2:22:32 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Tassie!)
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To: GregNH

Obama’s Kenyan Family - Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUmmGKYpPo


185 posted on 05/10/2013 2:28:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Tassie!)
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To: bgill

obumpa


186 posted on 05/14/2013 9:34:03 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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