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Gun Owners Beware - Let's Not Act Like Hot-Headed Fools
Political Realities ^ | 05/05/13 | LD Jackson

Posted on 05/05/2013 9:16:53 AM PDT by LD Jackson

2nd Amendment ControlI seldom post more than once per day, but I believe this warrants the occasion. I was doing my morning rounds of reading the news and blog posts I read almost every day and came across something that troubles me greatly. It has to do with the push for more gun control, restrictions on the 2nd Amendment and how gun owners are portrayed in the media.

If you have read Political Realities for any length of time, you should be aware of my stance on gun control. I do not believe it is a good thing, much less constitutional. I do not trust the liberal advocates of gun control and believe they will never be satisfied until the 2nd Amendment is legislated into non-relevancy. Call me paranoid, but that's how I feel.

Having said that, I do believe it falls on gun owners and other liberty-loving individuals in America to behave in responsibly. This is especially true in high-profile events where it is highly likely that the media will take the slightest misstep and portray it in a way that will not be to our advantage. Thus it is with the event that prompted me to write this post.

Salon - Libertarian activist and radio host Adam Kokesh is hoping to get 1,000 people to march on Washington on July 4 — armed with loaded rifles. The plan, launched with a Facebook group today, is to gather on the Virginia side of the Potomac, where gun laws are lax, and then march across the bridge with loaded rifles slung over their shoulders into the District, where openly carrying weapons is generally prohibited.

“This will be a non-violent event,” the Facebook group warns, “unless the government chooses to make it violent.” Already, over 200 people have said they’ll attend the march.

Seriously? With all the bad press gun owners receive from the media, no matter if the press should be bad or not, does Adam Kokesh really believe this is a smart idea? At the risk of sounding like I am questioning his motives, I can't help but wonder if he is more interested in raising his profile to the public than anything else. If he really wants to help gun owners, conducting a march on Washington with loaded weapons is not the way to go. It is my honest opinion that such a march would leave his intentions, good, bad, or otherwise, far too open to interpretation by the media. Does anyone reading this really believe that interpretation would turn into anything good for gun owners? I think not and I have no problem believing gun control advocates are salivating at the possibilities such a march would provide.
Hot Air - Showing up with a thousand (or even a few hundred) people openly carrying loaded weapons and marching toward the Capitol is not something that law enforcement is going to play around with, particularly when you announce it in advance. And they’re not going to allow the march to proceed “peacefully” either. Normally I’d write this off as a bad idea that wouldn’t gain widespread support, but the problem here is that it doesn’t need widespread support. It would really only take a few hundred really upset people to get it rolling. And even if most of them intend it to be peaceful, when the officials show up to arrest them, weapons drawn, you have the potential for disaster which Rick Moran foresees.
There isn't a chance this will turn out to be good for our cause. It will be anything except that. The more research I do, the more I am convinced that Adam Kokesh is after publicity for his upcoming run for Congress, more so than helping the plight of gun owners who feel their 2nd Amendment rights are under attack. I believe we should take steps to distance ourselves from Kokesh and his ill-conceived march on Washington with loaded rifles. Preemptively, we should be making it known that responsible gun owners have nothing to do with this hot-headed, anti-war demonstrator who is masquerading as a conservative.

TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; adamkokesh; banglist; demagogues; districtofcolumbia; guncontrol; gunowners; lewrockwell; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; newmexico; randpaul; ronpaul; secondamendment; virginia
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To: LD Jackson

We will never, EVER, get “good press” on the gun issue—EVER.
Not DC, NYC, LA—not anywhere the MSM holds sway.

If you don’t conprehend this by now, stop reading; climb back into yur hole and forget it.

Unconstitutional laws are NOT LAWS. That’s why they are called “unconstitutional”.

We are most likely going to have to fight this one out, so let’s all pick a good time and place. After all, nobody is going to live forever—at least not on this ball of mud.
The REAL question should be is this the right place and time?

21 posted on 05/05/2013 10:13:29 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed. This is an idea so bad it makes me think a Prog thought of it as a way to smear legal gun owners.

22 posted on 05/05/2013 10:19:16 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: G Larry

Standing up and and voicing you concerns about your God given right’s does not make you a kook.

Do not be frightened into submission.

23 posted on 05/05/2013 10:23:29 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked Ideas 50c)
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To: no-to-illegals

You are assuming that the permit mentions carrying pitchforks. All they would be doing is applying for a permit to march. Those that wanted to bring their farm implements would be no different than those who wanted to bring their wooden sticks with signs attached. I am not aware that gardening tools are illegal in DC.

24 posted on 05/05/2013 10:24:36 AM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Still Thinking

Well, that is a problem. Walk it right up to the line and protest that the Law in DC is a false law.

25 posted on 05/05/2013 10:25:29 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked Ideas 50c)
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To: Darren McCarty

Sage advice.

26 posted on 05/05/2013 10:26:43 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked Ideas 50c)
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To: bunkerhill7

George Washington did not bring a thousand armed colonists over to England to protest gun confiscation on the steps of the Royal Pavilion. He and his troops carried them into conflict for but one purpose, to win a shooting war for independence. I think that is a good example to follow.

Furthermore, Kokesh has a history of making alliances with the extreme left, ostensibly to advance his political career. If I were ever somehow talked into using weapons in a symbolic gesture like this, it would NOT be under the leadership of this highly compromised individual. Period.

27 posted on 05/05/2013 10:29:58 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Defiant
When the time comes and only when the time comes. I hate war as much as any sane person and am in FULL agreement we should avoid war, as long as is possible. zer0's crowd wants war with firearms owners and war between Americans. It furthers the zer0 crowds' agenda. A march with armed weaponry into D.C. guarantees a strong possibility of war. I understand fully this is also your belief or something similar. Imho, it is not time to start a war and to tell the truth, I completely believe you and I are on the same page. There is a time and a season for everything under Heaven. Will work to avoid war, for that time has not yet arrived under God, I pray.
28 posted on 05/05/2013 10:32:44 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Cyber Liberty
An example of how to do things right.

Michigan Dad Decides to Open Carry .45-Cal. Handgun at His Daughter’s School

He knew the law and went above and beyond what was required to cover himself. He also cautions against doing it.
29 posted on 05/05/2013 10:37:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

That was a pretty good story (I saw it the other day). The stunt described in the OP here is in blatant violation of the DC law, while the story you linked is about a guy doing something perfectly legal. I don’t think what they’re talking about doing would be legal if the guns were unloaded.

30 posted on 05/05/2013 10:41:26 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: mylife

And be prepared to deal with the consequences if that pseudo-law is pseudo-breached and pseudo-enforced against you, with no good long term results. It’s the Patton thing. I hate to lose. Giving the left a great youtube video to promote gun control while losing my freedom and maybe my life, with absolutely no prospect of converting that particular situation into a real win? Not interested. Put me in Benghazi violating a top-level order to stand down because if I obey that order, American lives will needlessly be lost? That is a fight worth winning, and a danger worthy to accept, as the reasonable price of freedom.

31 posted on 05/05/2013 10:42:53 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Another important point about what the Michigan father did. He put his own butt on the line without trying to get others to do the same.

32 posted on 05/05/2013 10:48:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Darren McCarty
There's no need to be demonstrative, but make all actions taken count - like at election time.

WE did and got The Kenyan, twice and Hillary's posterior is on the horizon as the successor to the destroy, loot and pillage dicta of the one world order.

33 posted on 05/05/2013 10:49:41 AM PDT by varon (USA Nationalist)
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To: cripplecreek
Such an event is fine at capitols in open carry states but trying it in DC is begging for bad press.

We already have bad press from every leftist extremist "news" media operation in the country. That bad press has played a significant role in driving NRA membership from ±4.5 million to over 5 million in the past few months. This is supposed to be a problem because...?

I feel no obligation whatever to be polite to people who've declared their intention to reduce us to disarmed state serfdom.

34 posted on 05/05/2013 10:51:07 AM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: mylife

“Standing up and and voicing you concerns about your God given right’s”

HOW you choose to do that, makes a difference.

Marching to D.C. openly armed is STUPID!

35 posted on 05/05/2013 10:55:27 AM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: Springfield Reformer

But John Paul Jones` crew raided the pub in Whitehaven with several drinks which is the same thing as a 1000 man march on London.

BTW there are no geological restrictions on the Second Amendment, no matter who tells you what coz the SECOND AMENDMENT CANNOT BE RESTRICTED BY TIME, SPACE NOR TYRANNY.

36 posted on 05/05/2013 10:59:41 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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To: onyx

37 posted on 05/05/2013 11:01:38 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Do we now register our pressure cookers?)
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To: varon
We got the Kenyan partly because we had squish McCain and anti-gun Romney as alternatives. The best as a gun owner I could say is vote for them, they suck less. Some of the more union minded folks are waking up and finding out that, yeah - they are gun grabbers. (Duhhh)

What would some demonstrative march viewed as a threat do? Especially led by guy like Kokesh. It's inviting trouble - on government turf, on government terms. If I'm going to be leading a 1000 member march, instead of an armed march with loaded rifles, I'll be visiting the congressional offices.

What happens if "we" supposedly "win" the confrontation there? Nothing.

Best case scenario, media trouble, suburban soccer mom types scared. Worst case. Kokesh or one of his followers does something stupid to make a "point." This is the equivalent of George Tiller's ghost leading a pro-choice rally.

If there is God-forbid an armed confrontation, I'm making sure it is on my turf, on my terms, with my escape routes, and where I have the advantage.

38 posted on 05/05/2013 11:05:51 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: LD Jackson

It’s a leftist provocation to make gun owners look crazy.

39 posted on 05/05/2013 11:12:21 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ClearCase_guy
Here in Commiefornia, Open Carry advocates were organizing events to promote their Constitutional Rights.

The Libtards were horrified seeing these “mostly white men” carrying their (unloaded) Pistolas and whined to the Rats in Sacramento to do something.

Well, Open Carry was outlawed last year. Not for just handguns, but long guns as well. Being a Gun Owner here is akin to being a Jew in 1936 Berlin.

40 posted on 05/05/2013 11:15:49 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Cancer was contagious, they would call it Liberalism...)
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