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'Questions Are Being Asked': Chuck Todd Takes On Sen. Ted Cruz's Potential 'Birther Controversy'
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/questions-are-being-asked-chuck-todd-takes-on-sen-ted-cruzs-potential-birther-controversy/ ^ | 11:50 am, May 6th, 2013 | Meenal Vamburkar

Posted on 05/06/2013 9:44:33 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter

“Another birther controversy could be brewing for 2016,” MSNBC host Chuck Todd informed on Monday. Though this time aimed at a Republican: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), who was born in Canada. While Cruz likely doesn’t face any real eligibility problems, Todd acknowledged, “questions are being asked.”

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How exactly is “natural-born citizen” defined? Since Cruz’s mother was born in the U.S. and his father became a citizen in 2005, Todd explained, going on to list similar scrutiny faced by President Obama, George Romney, and John McCain.

“The legal evidence seems to side with Cruz,” Todd argued, “but there is a grey area, and that may be all his opponents need.”

“It’s pretty clear that he qualifies as natural born,” Peter Spiro, a professor at Temple University, stated in response to Todd’s earlier question about how the term is defined. To clarify, Todd summed up: “If you are born to U.S. citizens abroad, no matter where, if they are U.S. citizens, if…one of your parents is a U.S. citizen — then that should qualify as natural born.”

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Not one word mentioned about two U.S. citizen parents creating their offspring 'sole allegiance' to the United States.
1 posted on 05/06/2013 9:44:33 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Whereas Bongo’s parents swore allegiance to the USSR.


2 posted on 05/06/2013 9:46:07 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

If Ubama is eligible, anybody is eligible.


3 posted on 05/06/2013 9:47:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

exactly.


4 posted on 05/06/2013 9:48:02 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

You betcha, they’re going to get him, and those who can’t understand or make up their own definition of NBC here are going to help the left do it.


5 posted on 05/06/2013 9:48:34 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“If Ubama is eligible, anybody is eligible.”

Not true at all.


6 posted on 05/06/2013 9:48:40 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Oh yes, let’s get the MSM mired in this, can we start using the “supposed prejorative” of “birther” to ridicule the MSM, maybe we can ridicule them with it now and when they say that the “Knuckle draggin republicans started it” we can inform them with glee that the Hillary Clintoon camp is who STARTED it all back in early 08’.

BRING IT ON!!!!!

If we loose Cruz, Obama Looses, and we win.

If Cruz is eligible we Win.

WIN-WIN

BRING IT!!!


7 posted on 05/06/2013 9:49:17 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

So you’re saying Ubama is eligible?


8 posted on 05/06/2013 9:49:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
'“If you are born to U.S. citizens abroad, no matter where, if they are U.S. citizens, if…one of your parents is a U.S. citizen — then that should qualify as natural born.”'

Wonderful. Vietnam is filled with plenty of 'NBC' from soldiers partying with hookers.

Every tourist[Male] visiting a third world country or any other country can 'create' kids with the locals and magic they are 'NBC'. BS.

9 posted on 05/06/2013 9:50:42 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

The media will be far more interested in “eligibility” if Cruz is the nominee than they were when Barry was the nominee.


10 posted on 05/06/2013 9:51:02 AM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hear, hear.


11 posted on 05/06/2013 9:51:20 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Viva Perot)
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To: bigbob

I agree with your post. It is imperative that we get the word out that Ted Cruz is not a true natural born citizen that the founders envisioned for the office of the presidency. A constitutional scholar Herb Titus with credentials to back his claims up explains why in common sense terms:

Part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esiZZ-1R7e8

Part two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoaZ8WextxQ


12 posted on 05/06/2013 9:55:00 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

“The legal evidence seems to side with Cruz,” Todd argued, “but there is a grey area, and that may be all his opponents need.”
Yet they have NO PROBLEM with that slimy pot-smoking, Muslim-loving black racist bastard with the shady past to end all shady pasts screwing up this country for 8 years.

Amazing.


13 posted on 05/06/2013 9:56:26 AM PDT by ZULU ((See: http://gatesofvienna.net/))
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To: tips up

>> The media will be far more interested in “eligibility” if Cruz is the nominee than they were when Barry was the nominee.

I welcome this obviously partisan scrutiny — it further exposes the true enemy of liberty.


14 posted on 05/06/2013 9:56:35 AM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No he is not eligible. Neither is Cruz, Jindal or Marco Rubio.


15 posted on 05/06/2013 9:57:01 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

If you “ get the wrod out” will you then go after 0dumbo with the same energy?


16 posted on 05/06/2013 9:58:03 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
It doesn't seem to matter that he's not eligible, does it?
17 posted on 05/06/2013 9:59:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

They are worried about Cruz, aren’t they. I would support him in a minute. We got disloyal McCain, didn’t we and the liar Obama is another issue. I see Cruz as a natural born citizen. I think many people are over complicating this issue.


18 posted on 05/06/2013 10:00:06 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

That’s your opinion.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 10:01:20 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

““The legal evidence seems to side with Cruz,” Todd argued, “but there is a grey area, and that may be all his opponents need.””

Yeah, right! GREY AREA, eh?

Where were/are you when it comes to investigating 0b0z0?

Oh, I got it. There is NO GREY AREA for 0b0z0 because it’s all BLACK, right?

Hey Chuck, are you going to call Cruz’s “opponents” birthers? Or, did the communist media wake up by a Republican scent?


20 posted on 05/06/2013 10:02:34 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

If you have American citizenship by birth, which Cruz has, that is sole allegiance to America.

My grandson is a citizen of America and England. In order to give sole allegiance to a country, he would have to drop one of those citizenships.


21 posted on 05/06/2013 10:04:23 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: GraceG
->>BRING IT!!!

Amen. all roads lead to Obama, bring it on.

22 posted on 05/06/2013 10:04:48 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

“We got disloyal McCain, didn’t we and the liar Obama is another issue. I see Cruz as a natural born citizen.”

If Cruz runs for the presidency, then he himself is being ‘disloyal’ to the Constitution, specifically Article 2 Section 1.


23 posted on 05/06/2013 10:05:22 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

In the meantime, ODumbo hasn’t delivered a paper LFBC to a federal court once.

Just ONCE.

Not even ONCE.

In 5 (that’s “FIVE” for Dumbocrats who don’t know numbers) years.

There’s no problem, is there?

Like, dunno, delivering a forged document as evidence, perhaps?


24 posted on 05/06/2013 10:05:26 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Not one word mentioned about two U.S. citizen parents creating their offspring ‘sole allegiance’ to the United States.


No, because the prog narrative is that Obama Jr. was BORN in Hawaii. Ted Cruz was born in Canada.


25 posted on 05/06/2013 10:06:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great natiorn is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

->If Cruz runs for the presidency, then he himself is being ‘disloyal’ to the Constitution, specifically Article 2 Section 1.

That is not true because his citizenship comes by birth. I don’t agree with your view.


26 posted on 05/06/2013 10:08:29 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Marcella

Dual Citizens are not Article 2 Section 1 Constitutional natural born citizens. Read these words by the father of the 14th Amendment VERY CAREFULLY.

“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

If you owe or share allegiance with a foreign sovereignty, you are NOT a natural born Citizen eligible to be president. How can you be eligible for the U.S. presidency with a Canadian birth certificate?


27 posted on 05/06/2013 10:10:04 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Ted Cruz would make an excellent Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Senate Majority Leader, or Governor of the State of Texas. He is not eligible to be POTUS and neither is Barry Soetoro.


28 posted on 05/06/2013 10:10:34 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“So you’re saying Ubama is eligible?”

The problem with Hussein, is, we don’t know whether his American mother filled out birth records at the time of birth to designate him as an American. I think he was registered by the parents as a Kenyan and that’s why he has made sure he got a fake Hawaiian birth certificate.


29 posted on 05/06/2013 10:11:16 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Christie at the beach

“That is not true because his citizenship comes by birth. I don’t agree with your view.”

Again.

“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

Ted Cruz is a statutory Citizen who owes allegiance to Canada. A statutory citizen (bestowed by man’s pen) can never be a “natural born” citizen (bestowed by God/nature).


30 posted on 05/06/2013 10:13:50 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Theoria

“Vietnam is filled with plenty of ‘NBC’ from soldiers partying with hookers.”

A birth record filled out by a parent at the time of birth designates the citizenship of the child. If a Vietnam “hooker” fill out the birth record and claimed American citizenship for the child based on the American soldier father, the baby would be an American. The mother could also claim the baby as Vietnamese and the baby would have dual citizenship.

In order for the baby to be anything but a new piece of flesh, a record has to be made by a parent and filed with government.


31 posted on 05/06/2013 10:16:04 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella
The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii'

British National Archives show a son was born to Obama Sr. in 1961 in Kenya

32 posted on 05/06/2013 10:16:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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“If you owe or share allegiance with a foreign sovereignty, you are NOT a natural born Citizen eligible to be president. How can you be eligible for the U.S. presidency with a Canadian birth certificate”

He has an American birth certificate, not a Canadian birth certificate.


33 posted on 05/06/2013 10:19:35 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Your concept in what you believe is not what I see.

Again.


34 posted on 05/06/2013 10:19:59 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

So is F. Chuck Todd a birther??


35 posted on 05/06/2013 10:21:33 AM PDT by Obadiah (High speed, low drag.)
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To: Marcella
'In order for the baby to be anything but a new piece of flesh, a record has to be made by a parent and filed with government.'

That still is a 'NBC' via hooker. Kinda belittles the born in America citizenship when ya can just produce one in your 'own' country.

36 posted on 05/06/2013 10:22:21 AM PDT by Theoria
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“If you are born to U.S. citizens abroad, no matter where, if they are U.S. citizens, if…one of your parents is a U.S. citizen — then that should qualify as natural born.”

Well, that's settled then. How long has this Todd-anus been on the SCOTUS? In fact, I propose that all legal matters be handled by the MSM. Closing the courts could save this country a fortune.

37 posted on 05/06/2013 10:22:59 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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:British National Archives show a son was born to Obama Sr. in 1961 in Kenya”

That’s what I believe and I think he and the wife registered him as Kanyan and not American. Neither one of them cared one whit about America but they did Kenya.


38 posted on 05/06/2013 10:23:33 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Bobby Jindal was born in the United States.


39 posted on 05/06/2013 10:26:07 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Bobby Jindal was born in the United States”

He was born before both of his parents naturalized as U.S. citizens. He is not a Constitutional Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen. He is a statutory citizen.


40 posted on 05/06/2013 10:28:28 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Marcella

Are you talking about Ted Cruz or Barack Obama?


41 posted on 05/06/2013 10:29:04 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

This issue is a classic leftist triangulation strategy to get those of us on the right to fight among ourselves so that the next Democrat nominee can run against the weakest, most wishy-washy Republican. It has already worked twice in the nominations of McCain and Romney.
Anything that divides and discourages some conservatives is to the benefit of liberalism.


42 posted on 05/06/2013 10:29:47 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

Post 33 is about Cruz. Post 38 is about Hussein.


43 posted on 05/06/2013 10:31:37 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Christie at the beach

Give me specific reasoning why you think Ted Cruz (who was born in Canada that granted him a shared allegiance with that country) is a Constitutional natural born Citizen?


44 posted on 05/06/2013 10:31:49 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Marcella

If a chiled born out of country to an American father is an American citizen, likewise a child born out of country to a Cuban father is a Cuban citizen.

If Canada has birthright citizenship, Ted Cruz can legally owe allegiance to Canada, Cuba and America.

Not sure how you can classify him as a “natural born” American citizen.


45 posted on 05/06/2013 10:33:15 AM PDT by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If Ubama is eligible, anybody is eligible.
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It is sweet to see the MSM becoming ‘birthers’ as they make a big deal of Cruz, though they continue to cover for Ubama. Cruz and Rubio will keep the birther issue alive, while the worm continues to turn on Ubama’s eligibility. Don't doubt me, Joe Arpio will get his man eventually. This ongoing discussion on NBC must make Ubama, Fogbow and other Ubama protectors very nervous.

46 posted on 05/06/2013 10:33:21 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Marcella

Why would Cruz have a American birth certificate if he was born in Canada?


47 posted on 05/06/2013 10:33:41 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: ZULU

Agree. It appears we have a number of Huffington Post types who recently became trolls.


48 posted on 05/06/2013 10:34:06 AM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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To: Theoria

“That still is a ‘NBC’ via hooker. Kinda belittles the born in America citizenship when ya can just produce one in your ‘own’ country.”

You carry your American citizenship in your body and that includes your sexual organs. If you go to Zimbabwe, South Africa, and use your American sexual organs, you can make an American with a South African hooker.


49 posted on 05/06/2013 10:38:58 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter

You tube and college professors do not sway me. Natural born meant two parents who were both born in America were your natural father and natural mother. Sorry if I am over 65.I do not buy this destruction and well orchestrated demise of the constitution.


50 posted on 05/06/2013 10:40:04 AM PDT by Lumper20 (`)
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