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Bill Clinton's arrogance and Led Zeppelin's Moral Acendency
Personal Blog ^ | 5-7-13 | Brad Morrison

Posted on 05/07/2013 5:53:24 PM PDT by ciceroqpublic

I'll start by mentioning that I saw Led Zeppelin at Madison Square garden for two of the three nights during the Song Remains the same. Oh la, ain't I cool. They were good, almost great. John Paul Johns and John Bonham were the voice of the Norse Gods. Page was in top form and Plant couldn't hit the high notes. Those shows were Led Zeppelin in their prime. What most of the later generations of music fans don't seem to understand is that Led Zeppelin was just another band. They were not the Beatles. They were not the beginning and end of rock. I have seen hundreds of rock shows. Led Zeppelin was just another band, in fact, they stole every song they recorded.

Today's headlines has the humiliating news that ex President (thank the lord for that) Bill Clinton attempting to step in to use his "influence" to pressure Led Zeppelin to reunite to play a benefit to aid the victims of hurricane Sandy. The band said no. I imagine, and I have a strong reality based imagination, that the band laughed themselves silly. Bill Clinton is not cool. He has never been cool. Well, he may have been considered cool by legions of nerds and mainstream Americans that are, in themselves, not in any way cool. Bill Clinton isn't cool. His supporters aren't cool and in many ways Led Zeppelin is no longer cool.

The more interesting point is Bill Clinton's inability to accept that the proper thing for an ex President to do is fade into the background. Since he is a rampant narcissist he naturally assumes that in addition to exporting all the jobs in America, bringing peace to the middle east and finally making Serbs and Croats love each other he will remake Rock history. It needs to be said, Bill Clinton is a putz. He has never been cool, he never will be cool and his taste in music is just one of the many confirmations of this fact. Unfortunately, being a NARCICIST he suffers from a complete inability to be self reflective. Now we, the American people, are going to suffer as we watch him continue to cheapen the real perception of the American Presidency. The mystique and tangible respect of the position of the President of the Republic of America is the product of 216 years of work by American Presidents. Sadly a man with as little substance as Bill Clinton will pour part of this important faith and respect down the drain in an effort to prove to himself that he is still the center of the universe.

There is no question that politician are, as a class, narcissists. But there is ego and there is narcissism. They are not the same thing. Bill Clinton's flaws run deep, frighteningly deep. One of the great unanswered questions of recent political history is why Bill Clinton's impeachment trial was conducted in secrecy. What dreadful things was the Senate hiding from us? The question, when viewed against one of the most scandal plagued administrations ever to control the White House. The possible answers are all bad, really truly, bad in ways that effect history. It appears that this man, this ex President, will never willingly leave the stage. His flaws compel him to the limelight and the damage he is doing to America's respect is real and tangible. Perhaps America needs to consider a banishment amendment to the constitution.....

©Brad Morrison 2013/Billiken Media


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: clinton; culture; liberals
I'll start by mentioning that I saw Led Zeppelin at Madison Square garden for two of the three nights during the Song Remains the same. Oh la, ain't I cool. They were good, almost great. John Paul Johns and John Bonham were the voice of the Norse Gods. Page was in top form and Plant couldn't hit the high notes. Those shows were Led Zeppelin in their prime. What most of the later generations of music fans don't seem to understand is that Led Zeppelin was just another band. They were not the Beatles. They were not the beginning and end of rock. I have seen hundreds of rock shows. Led Zeppelin was just another band, in fact, they stole every song they recorded.

Today's headlines has the humiliating news that ex President (thank the lord for that) Bill Clinton attempting to step in to use his "influence" to pressure Led Zeppelin to reunite to play a benefit to aid the victims of hurricane Sandy. The band said no. I imagine, and I have a strong reality based imagination, that the band laughed themselves silly. Bill Clinton is not cool. He has never been cool. Well, he may have been considered cool by legions of nerds and mainstream Americans that are, in themselves, not in any way cool. Bill Clinton isn't cool. His supporters aren't cool and in many ways Led Zeppelin is no longer cool.

The more interesting point is Bill Clinton's inability to accept that the proper thing for an ex President to do is fade into the background. Since he is a rampant narcissist he naturally assumes that in addition to exporting all the jobs in America, bringing peace to the middle east and finally making Serbs and Croats love each other he will remake Rock history. It needs to be said, Bill Clinton is a putz. He has never been cool, he never will be cool and his taste in music is just one of the many confirmations of this fact. Unfortunately, being a NARCICIST he suffers from a complete inability to be self reflective. Now we, the American people, are going to suffer as we watch him continue to cheapen the real perception of the American Presidency. The mystique and tangible respect of the position of the President of the Republic of America is the product of 216 years of work by American Presidents. Sadly a man with as little substance as Bill Clinton will pour part of this important faith and respect down the drain in an effort to prove to himself that he is still the center of the universe.

There is no question that politician are, as a class, narcissists. But there is ego and there is narcissism. They are not the same thing. Bill Clinton's flaws run deep, frighteningly deep. One of the great unanswered questions of recent political history is why Bill Clinton's impeachment trial was conducted in secrecy. What dreadful things was the Senate hiding from us? The question, when viewed against one of the most scandal plagued administrations ever to control the White House. The possible answers are all bad, really truly, bad in ways that effect history. It appears that this man, this ex President, will never willingly leave the stage. His flaws compel him to the limelight and the damage he is doing to America's respect is real and tangible. Perhaps America needs to consider a banishment amendment to the constitution.....

©Brad Morrison 2013/Billiken Media

1 posted on 05/07/2013 5:53:24 PM PDT by ciceroqpublic
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To: ciceroqpublic
I dunno.

It's the only real good idea BJ Clinton has had in years.


2 posted on 05/07/2013 5:58:51 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ciceroqpublic

....acendency?


3 posted on 05/07/2013 6:00:40 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: ciceroqpublic

Minor point - Led Zeppelin never made any secret of the fact they borrowed heavily from old delta blues standards for their earlier stuff.


4 posted on 05/07/2013 6:01:19 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: ciceroqpublic

I would way more like to have lunch with LZ than with bubba any day. For the record...


5 posted on 05/07/2013 6:03:41 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: ciceroqpublic
“Four Sticks” and “One Pr***.”
6 posted on 05/07/2013 6:05:44 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama is the "Disco Duck" president. A no-substance novelty that reached number one.)
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To: ciceroqpublic
His supporters aren't cool and in many ways Led Zeppelin is no longer cool.

Last summer some high school kids behind me threw a typical High school summer party, blaring music late into the night. The funny thing was they were blaring Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath, just like my friends used to do 25+ years ago.

Led Zep will always be cool, while this idiot author's favs like Lady Ga-ga, Beyonce and Justin Bebier will be long forgotten.

7 posted on 05/07/2013 6:09:39 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: SkyPilot
...Led Zeppelin was just another band.

Blasphemy and heresy.

8 posted on 05/07/2013 6:12:08 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: SkyPilot

“Kashmir” was not a stolen song.


9 posted on 05/07/2013 6:17:51 PM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: ciceroqpublic
Led Zeppelin was just another band.

Sure. That's why the article is about them some 45 years after they began. Can't get much more ordinary than that.

It's "ascendancy", incidentally. And telling a politician to piss off isn't moral ascendancy, it's basic human decency.

10 posted on 05/07/2013 6:18:25 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ciceroqpublic

Well...I’d say there’ll be a large dose of cold water heaped upon the Clinton name, in the coming days....


11 posted on 05/07/2013 6:21:03 PM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: ciceroqpublic
Display the plagiarism charges.
12 posted on 05/07/2013 6:23:11 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: qam1
Led Zep will always be cool, while this idiot author's favs like Lady Ga-ga, Beyonce and Justin Bebier will be long forgotten.

Applause to you for speaking the truth.


13 posted on 05/07/2013 6:24:40 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: jeffc
Blasphemy and heresy.

Amen.

14 posted on 05/07/2013 6:25:08 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: DEADROCK
They did rip off other artists on many songs - Robert Plant even told a reporter "Guilty!" at one point.

They were still the greatest. Musician-wise, no one could touch them. Not Paige's genius guitar playing, not Bonham's thunderous drum playing, not Jones' steady bass/keyboards, and not Plant's leather lunged vocals.

Here are 10 solid cases of plagiarism though:

Led Zeppelin Examples of Plagiarism

15 posted on 05/07/2013 6:29:35 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ciceroqpublic

I saw Zepplin as the opening act for Vanilla Fudge in Baltimore, many, many moons ago. What a show!
Been a fan ever since. I’m 60 now. Even my sons love their music, along with many of the others I listened to back then.


16 posted on 05/07/2013 6:44:46 PM PDT by mark3681
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17 posted on 05/07/2013 6:50:54 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: SkyPilot
I need court cases.

Harrison lost in court with My Sweet Lord.

Men At Work lost in court with the sax track in Who Can It Be Now.

John Fogerty`s was sued for plagiarizing his own song.

Until then, it can only legally be labeled as 'influenced.' And who wasn't influenced by the Blues. The Stones made a fine living at it.

18 posted on 05/07/2013 6:52:53 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: DEADROCK
If you listen to all 10 of those, that was some pretty serious "influencing."
19 posted on 05/07/2013 6:54:39 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: ciceroqpublic

Dear Brad,

First off, GO SUCK AN EGG YOU PINHEAD!

LZ not cool anymore? The BluRay of their reunion concerts sold quite well, and the concerts themselves sold out in record time.

LZ was NOT “just another band.” Like the Beach Boys and The Beatles, LZ was a band that experimented and evolved. Each album was different, in some cases REALLY different. For instance, compare LZ2 to LZ3, in particular the second side. The same band that played The Immigrant Song played Tangerine and Hangman. And they continued their experimentation and evolutions throughout the entire life of the band.

Face it, you (Brad) are a pinhead loser who knows nothing about music. And you probably smell funny.

Mark


20 posted on 05/07/2013 7:17:13 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: DEADROCK

Fogerty was able to prove they were different songs by playing them on guitar to the judge. What was the sax solo stolen from?


21 posted on 05/07/2013 7:21:19 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: ciceroqpublic
It appears that this man, this ex President, will never willingly leave the stage.

Why should he? Jimmy Carter is still around, inflicting his assininity on the rest of us, and he had a 20-year head start on leaving the stage.

22 posted on 05/07/2013 7:29:37 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Fight Third-World Despotism. Overthrow Obama.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

It was the flute on Down Under...ooops, which they stole from the Girl guides song according to Wiki.


23 posted on 05/07/2013 9:21:23 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: DEADROCK

thx you


24 posted on 05/07/2013 9:22:51 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/)
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To: DEADROCK

The Men At Work song was “Down Under” and the song stolen was “Kookaburra.”


25 posted on 05/08/2013 2:51:23 AM PDT by ez (Muslims do not play well with others.)
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To: DEADROCK

Taurus by Spirit is a nice song.


26 posted on 05/08/2013 3:11:35 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: qam1
A yes, you're unable to criticize without personal ad hominem attacks and name calling. The fact is that I am not a Lady Gaga fan as you suppose. I believe I am fully qualified to cool Led Zeppelin uncool. I spent twenty five years as a professional rock n roll manager, record label OWNER and record producer as well as being a recording artist. I have produced over seventy albums including a few little bands like THE CURE, SUGARCUBES and PHISH. As a result it's likely that I am more qualified to both understand and explain what defines cool music.
27 posted on 05/08/2013 8:59:44 PM PDT by ciceroqpublic
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To: CatherineofAragon

Catherine,
Sorry about the acendency thing. I should spell check more carefully.................


28 posted on 05/08/2013 9:01:46 PM PDT by ciceroqpublic
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To: skeeter

Sorry Skeeter but you are wrong about Led Zeppelin’s being honest about stealing their songs. On all of the original albums they listed themselves as the writers. As a result they were sued a number of times by the original writers/estates and lost. Part of the settlements forced the band to admit they were not the original writers.


29 posted on 05/08/2013 9:05:26 PM PDT by ciceroqpublic
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To: jeffc

Ok Skypilot I can see that you weren’t old enough to experience Led Zeppelin during the seventies. They were, in fact, just another band. They were great in many ways but there were many other bands that were more influential and more successful. Sorry about the typo. We all make mistakes, even Led Zeppelin made a serious mistake when they claimed to have written all of their songs only to be sued and forced to admit they stole the songs. I’ll admit that I like Led Zeppelin’s catalog. And you are correct Kashmir may not be stolen.


30 posted on 05/08/2013 9:12:50 PM PDT by ciceroqpublic
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To: DEADROCK

Deadrock,
Just google Led Zeppelin and plagiarism and you will find enough proof to convince anyone that the band stole the bulk of their songs.


31 posted on 05/08/2013 9:17:06 PM PDT by ciceroqpublic
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To: ciceroqpublic
Clinton has done damaging things but asking a rock band to play a benefit show ain't one of em.

Save the "LedZep is not cool" stuff for the next Tiger Beat magazine.

32 posted on 05/08/2013 9:31:01 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan
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To: MarkL

MarkL,
Happy to see that you are respecting the free republic rules about not calling names. Your inability to disagree with someone with personal attacks shows how week your grasp of adult discourse is.
I never said that Led Zeppelin wasn’t popular. Being popular does not equal being cool. Yes Zeppelin was cooler than Kiss but not as cool as The Velvet Underground or Iggy and the Stooges.

As for knowing nothing about music you are wildly off base. Since you challenge my competence concerning music I will list SOME of my resume:
Own over 10,000 vinyl LPs, 8000 CDs and have a barn full of 2inch Master tapes from the RECORDING STUDIO I OWN AND OPERATE
aged 7-21 played classical piano and jazz piano
aged 19-23 Disc Jockey (very successful by the way)
aged 20 produced my first record
Aged twenty two - opened my first of three record labels.

All three labels had remarkable successes, including something called “gold and Platinum records”
Toured professionally as a guitarist and organist for about 15 years
produced over seventy records
Study music composition in college ( it was my minor)wrote a few hundred things called “songs” I could continue but I am not sure you are qualified to read the books or would know what “RIAA Rock Producer of the year means.
Since you have mounted the throne of judgment I would love to hear your music qualifications. Let’s hear it buddy....


33 posted on 05/08/2013 9:39:50 PM PDT by ciceroqpublic
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To: ciceroqpublic

Yes, that’s all very nice, but what are your qualifications?


34 posted on 05/08/2013 9:58:22 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: ciceroqpublic
Great bands are in the ear of the listener. Many times a fan's favorite song is not the musician's favorite. A song is good to the listener because he likes it. A musician likes a particular song because he was able to get it to sound just right through the speakers what he hears in his head.

I've seen many famous bands perform. Too many of them play as close to the recorded version as possible. Also, when you play with a pre-recorded part (as per Van Halen and the later Who), you have very little wiggle room for improvising, which I found Zeppelin excelled at very well.

I like a wide variety of music (I think of Beethoven's Fifth and Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture to be the rock anthems of their day. Those tunes rock!), but for me, Zeppelin will always be number one.

Each to his own, I say. It makes the world go 'round.

35 posted on 05/08/2013 10:18:44 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: ciceroqpublic
Ooops! Did not see your other posts until I had responded to the one you posted to me but addressed Skypilot.

If I had known you were a musician I would not have written the first paragraph above. Please don't take it as condescending.

36 posted on 05/08/2013 10:28:34 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: ciceroqpublic

No harm done. It’s just a pet peeve of mine; these days I see so many misspelled words even running across the TV news screen, and it drives me a bit nuts.


37 posted on 05/09/2013 7:45:06 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: ciceroqpublic
MarkL, Happy to see that you are respecting the free republic rules about not calling names. Your inability to disagree with someone with personal attacks shows how week your grasp of adult discourse is.

Ummm... Are you the Brad who wrote the article, because that's to whom my name calling was directed, hence the "Dear Brad,"

Mark

38 posted on 05/09/2013 8:23:19 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: MarkL

Mark,
Yes, I am the person that wrote the article. I have now gored the sacred Led Zeppelin horse. Sorry everyone, Zep was great in many ways but today, 40 years later, they are no longer an example of a cool band.....................


39 posted on 05/09/2013 8:16:22 PM PDT by ciceroqpublic
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