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To: SampleMan
I agree there was no Golden Period where Jews were equal.

Only that they could live as inferiors in Muslim lands when they were not allowed to live at all in Christian lands.

While Jewish communities in Arab and Islamic countries fared better overall than those in Christian lands in Europe, Jews were no strangers to persecution and humiliation among the Arabs and Muslim. As Princeton University historian Bernard Lewis has written: "The Golden Age of equal rights was a myth, and belief in it was a result, more than a cause, of Jewish sympathy for Islam."

I've read several books by Lewis and Pipes on this subject, who are generally considered Islamaphobic by the PC people. My opinion is based on their scholarship, not on PC history.

56% of the immigrants to the new state of Israel were from Muslim lands.

Re: the Nazis. I don't consider the Nazis to have been Christians, and certainly most of their leaders were anti-Christian by any standard. But most of the German people were Christians throughout the Nazi rule, or thought they were.

18 posted on 05/10/2013 11:17:33 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

The Muslims didn’t expel Jews for much the same reason that those vile men in Cleveland refused to expel the poor women imprisoned in their basement.


22 posted on 05/10/2013 11:24:02 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Sherman Logan
...when they were not allowed to live at all in Christian lands.

And yet, pre-NAZIs, they became a much larger percentage of the population in Europe than they did in the Middle East. Curious for the more persecuted population to fair better, don't you think?

The Church did not run the death camps, and in fact was readily persecuted by the NAZIs. But, if we are talking Europe vs. the Muslim World, that is a moot point with regard to 1936-1945.

The initial imigration to Israel included almost 100% of the remaining Jews from all of North Africa, Arabia, and Persia. Not surprising then that it was a large percentage. But that rather bolsters my point. Most Jews still lived in the West, but stayed where they were. While those in Muslim lands fled or were driven in mass to Israel.

25 posted on 05/10/2013 12:11:02 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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