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Lines of Gear and Go Bags/ Assault Packs/ Get Home Bags
Total Survivalist Libertarian Rantfest ^ | 5/14/13 | Ryan

Posted on 05/15/2013 8:21:00 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Alexander Wolfe wrote an excellent post today discussing Go Bags and Bug Out Bags. I am going to talk about my thoughts on 'lines' of gear. In doing so we will talk about go bags/ assault packs/ get home bags and such. 

First line gear is the most basic survival and defensive gear. You really shouldn't be leaving home without it.
Military- Survival gear (knife, fire, etc) and weapon with reload. For most deployed personnel the weapon is an M4 variant but that doesn't really matter.
Civilian- EDC/ Survival gear and potentially CCW pistol with reload. You can see mine here and also a lot of other peoples.

Second line gear is your 'fighting load'. It stores ammo, water, basic first aid stuff, a small radio, maybe a more substantial knife, etc all.
Military- Old school would be your LBE or whatever and a rifle if your first line gun was a pistol. The contemporary equivalent would be body armor, a chest rig if your pouches aren't mounted strait to the vest.
Civilian- There are a lot more options but the basics are the same. Ammo, medical, maybe a more substantial knife, water, etc. This could be a direct or linear descendant of some military system of a smaller lighter setup designed to more closely suit civilian needs. War belts and Active Shooter kits fall into this category.

Third line gear is for sustainment over a longer period. Depending on how your stuff is set up and the conditions the second line is good for a short operation or up to a day or so.The third line is for sustainment beyond that time frame.
Military- Ruck Sack with food, water, warm clothes, hygiene stuff, batteries, maybe ammo, etc all. Set up to sustain an individual within their current environment for a reasonable amount of time.
Civilian- Large bag with food, water, warm clothes, hygiene stuff, batteries, maybe ammo, etc all. Set up to sustain an individual within their current environment for a reasonable amount of time. This is where the BOB AKA 'Bug Out Bag or INCH "I'm Never Coming Home Again" type systems fall.

We could quibble about what exactly should go where and other minutia. However it's basically the way our military operates these days so I do not think many folks would disagree with the general concept.

So now we are back to the Go Bags/ Assault Packs/ Get Home Bags. I will briefly discuss my thoughts on them then move forward.

The 'Go Bag' is pretty much set up to supplement your fighting load. More mags, medical stuff, food, batteries, etc all. It typically stays in a vehicle and is grabbed to resupply or if you need to bail out on foot.

The 'Assault Pack' is used to carry equipment beyond your fighting load needed for a particular mission. Potentially that could include bino's/ spotting scopes, batteries, clothes, food, additional ammo, explosives, breaching gear, land mines, signaling equipment, etc all.

The 'Get Home Bag' is a bag designed to have sufficient stuff to get a person from where they are to back home. Generally set up smaller and lighter than the 'bug out bag' though one mans BOB might be another's GHB.

So where do the Go Bag/ Assault Pack/ Get Home Bag fall into this general system?

We could analyze the exact composition of every single kit or just make it simple and call them level 2.5. That is sort of awkward but since these kits are typically a split between supplemental fighting load and short term sustainment I think it's the best fit. This is further made awkward because many civilians do not have a 'fighting load' in their general commonly carried systems. They may have a hodge podge of stuff floating around their vehicle or a few spare mags in their level 2.5 system. Also I find the conceptual level 2.5 useful because the level of sustainment is generally for a shorter period of time than the more traditional Ruck/ BOB 3rd level of sustainment.

Yes I categorize these systems in the same range. Furthermore I would go as far as to say they are just variations of the same kit adjusted to different circumstances. A soldier or contractor operating out of a vehicle will probably have a go bag. Inevitably some chow and supplemental clothing plus life's random junk (paperback book, MP-3 player, gum, flashlight, etc) can slip in there. Really while the bag might vary that isn't any different than an Assault Pack. These kits exact composition varies in part based on your fighting load. I've seen contractors who wore 2-3 spare mags for their rifle and 1-2 for the pistol (often in a ghetto made war belt from some pouches and a spare rigger belt) then carried a bag with more of each plus smoke/ grenades/ etc. If for whatever (IMO foolhardy) reason a person in a highly kinetic situation goes with way their  2.5 line is going to have a lot of ordinance in it. On the other hand a guy carrying 8-12 mags on his body has more room for a spare sweater in the 2.5 line.

To me the 'Get Home Bag' is a civilian equivalent of the same kit. It is a fairly small purpose built kit designed to help you with a specific mission, in this case getting home. They tend to be far lighter on ordinance than a soldier or contractor's Go Bag/ Assault Pack. The reason for this is simple. Despite some folks Red Dawn or whatever militia porn fantasies the odds Joe Everyday is going to need a first aid kit, some chow, a coat and a flashlight are a whole lot higher than that he will need an AR with a dozen magazines. Now if you want to carry a dedicated fighting load plus a 'Get Home Bag' type setup good for you but as a survivalist do not carry the ammo instead of the sustainment stuff.

So anyway those are my thoughts on that. I am eager to hear yours.

 


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Outdoors; Politics; Travel
KEYWORDS: assault; bags; banglist; gobags; guncontrol; packs; preppers; secondamendment; survival
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To: LibWhacker

Not bad at all!


21 posted on 05/16/2013 6:35:07 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: Squantos

Well, as in so many things, it isn’t the tool, it’s the skill of the person using the tool.


22 posted on 05/17/2013 3:32:21 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Tainan

True true true ....:o)

Hope yer well !

Stay safe !


23 posted on 05/17/2013 4:18:59 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Lurker; Sergio; Blueflag; Ruy Dias de Bivar; T-Bird45; pepperdog; LadyBuck; reed13; rfreedom4u
Sorry for the group ping. I normally don't do this. But since you seemed to respond positively to the article, I can't help but alert you to a low profile, urban environment backpack that I just found out about and that allows you to deploy a weapon and front and back body armor in seconds, called the Ares Armor RAD pack. Check out the demo video at youtube. It's only 34 seconds.

Disclaimer: I have none, nada, zero, zip connection to the manufacturer and aren't on anyone's payroll to plug the product. I just liked it and thought you might too. If not, apologies. Like I said, I rarely do this (only three group pings since 1997), so don't worry about it happening again. Cheers!

24 posted on 05/18/2013 11:41:28 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Squantos

I picked up a couple of these a few years back: http://www.swissarmy.com/us/app/product/Swiss-Army-Knives/Category/Do-It-Yourself/RescueTool/53900

I got two of them for nothing for sitting through a 4 hour manufacturer training class. Mrs L and I have one each in the car bags. Great little tool. You can darned near dismantle a car with one.


25 posted on 05/18/2013 3:13:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: LadyBuck

I took a lesson from the VC. You can pretty easily push half your body weight on a bicycle.


26 posted on 05/18/2013 3:18:45 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Lurker

Will snag me one.... Disc saw ? Metal blade ?

Very nice....

I am a fan. Sent em a letter a few years ago suggesting what I thought would be the perfect grunts knife should be....it was about an eight page letter describing how, why and where to place on the knife etc

They sent me a mini champ as thanks.... Haven’t seen my suggested ideas on one of their blades as of this date....lol !

https://www.swissarmy.com/us/app/product/Swiss-Army-Knives/Category/Everyday-Use/MiniChamp/53973

The mini champ I got.

My carry SAK is the champion.

Stay safe Marine !


27 posted on 05/18/2013 3:36:45 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos

Check out the YouTube video demo on how to use that thing. You can literally cut through a windshield with one. If I get my hands on another one it’s yours. Best little promo swag I ever got.

You take care now.


28 posted on 05/18/2013 7:13:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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